Posted on 01/14/2014 9:30:26 PM PST by ReformationFan
The thief is uncomfortable with the cop hold the flashlight for him.
The sinner believes his conscience will be unburdened when there is nobody causing him to reflect on his behavior.
The father of lies, working through fallen people.
The purpose of the religious clause of the First Amendment was to keep the question of religion out of the federal jurisdiction, reserving it to the states. The states were therefore free to legislate on the establishment of religion and to pass laws concerning public morality based on religious principles. This came to an end with Everson which for the first time used the principle of incorporation through the 14th Amendment to hold that the states themselves were also prohibited to establish religion. Everson would be followed in 1963 with Engel v. Vitale which prohibited school prayer and Abington School District v. Schempp in 1963 which prohibited Bible reading schools. Griswold and the present situation were the inevitable outcome.
Excellent observation.
“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”
Pope Leo XIII, 1880
To the state in the modern era marriage is simply going to be whatever judges, pols, or the voting majority thinks it is at any one time. That’s it, that’s all it ever was or will ever be as far as the state is concerned.
FReegards
I agree. Both of these evils go together. They both have the goal of obliterating the differences between the sexes and separating the marital act from the giving and creating of new human life.
I blame us, society in general. we let it happen by being apathetic.
“the use of whom is considered by many to be on its last legs in English”
At one time homosexuals were actually fearful that if it turned out there was a gay gene and doctors could detect it, then parents might abort their gay babies.
Opposition to abortion is currently on the rise. This is because more and more people are convinced there is a real victim involved that needs protection, i.e. the fetus.
Opposition to homosexuality is on the decline because people feel that there is no victim. If two consenting adults want to have sex, regardless of their sex or sexual orientation, then what harm does it do to others?
If your plan is to lump all of the social issues into one Gordian knot and require everyone to agree with you on every issue then you're going to fail.
Certainly we can claim that all sins are related in that they are all sins. Certainly there were weird cultures that celebrated certain sins more than others, and some of these chose to celebrate abortion (or infanticide) and homosexuality. Certainly we can write beautiful prose pieces attacking the "culture of death" in all of its manifestations.
However we are currently making some inroads on abortion, and we're having no such luck with regard to homosexuality in general or homosexual "marriage" in particular.
Why weigh down the fight against abortion by attaching it at the hip with the fight against gay marriage?
Why weigh down the fight against abortion by attaching it at the hip with the fight against gay marriage?
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You’re talking tactics. I’m not sure that I disagree with you.
I said if the supreme court can invalidate roe v wade then homosexuality will wither.
Why? Because for mysterious reasons involved with the human condition the two are joined at the hip. You almost never see anyone who supports abortion also not support homosexuality. The two occupy the same moral system. The reason for that is the same reason that homosexuality in the priesthood and human sacrifice went hand in hand in the premodern world—that is the worlds that predate judeo Christianity.
But as I said, the focus should be on rescinding roe v wade. do that and the tide will go out on the other abominations. (and if roe v wade is not rescinded then the abominations will proliferate. that’s just the way it works.)
You’re on to something here, but which came first?
You’re on to something here, but which came first?
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abortion. it serves as the sacrifice or sacrament if you will.
abortion feeds homosexuality.
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