Laz, reloading buddy of mine, I appreciate the support very much. As you are well aware, you are currently engaged in a battle with a woman that it uninterested in anything remotely related to admitting the farce that is her position.
She, like several others across FR are so tied in to the defense of the GOP and it’s destruction of all we hold dear that the only value in debating her is entertainment value.
Unfortunately it is people like this that “Occupy FR” and keep us arguing with each other. The example she set on last night’s thread is exactly why we spin our wheels and are in turn bum rushed by the Dems and GOP. And this is why we have to rid ourselves of the enemy within.
At this point in time, it makes a whole lot of difference. These are people who are determined to see us vote for the GOP candidate no matter how liberal yet again. Over the next several months, they will continue building dissent here and elsewhere. They will continue to attempt setting us against each other over small details in our personal political beliefs specifically to repeat the events of the 2012 primary and election season.
The entirety of this issue comes down to unity. the “UNI” party has figured this out. WE, the far right always win in the idea dept. We even have much of the population in agreeance with us on a number of subjects. Yet you hear the same thing when talking to people “I like X but they can’t win”. And that is because we lack the cohesive unity to make them believe we can.
Laz and everyone, we have to speak with one voice. We either are willing to repeat the ‘chicken out at the last min and vote for the GOP Lib” routine or we have to decide, each of us, YESTERDAY, that we aren’t.
Several of us have put our collective asses out there trying to get people on one page. And you’ve all see that we have gotten an unholy amount of hell for it. Why is that? It’s to pressure people into staying on the GOP plantation. The message is clear. Stray and be mocked for it.
And no, before someone thinks it, I don’t have a martyr/Massiah complex. The facts back it up. Read the post histories of those involved.
So it’s time to choose. The GOP is what it is. If people want that, they should do that. Or not.
I woould offer the premise that she may actually be GOP-e in some way, or connected to them.
Or, she may be so insulated from the conservative mainstream in some manner, that she came to these conclusions without adequate analysis and exposure to other ideas.
I'm leaning to the first premise, based on her 'vault' over my valid points (with a subsequent personalization of the argument as to who I may or may not vote for.)
At any rate, it is not her that I make my case to; it is those other undecided people who might stumble across the thread. Also, don't forget, some people actually look my posts up. Not sure why, but they do.