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IRS Targeting and 2014
Wall Street Journal ^ | 1/16/2014 | Kimberley A. Strassel

Posted on 01/16/2014 9:20:19 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles

"President Obama and Democrats have been at great pains to insist they knew nothing about IRS targeting of conservative 501(c)(4) nonprofits before the 2012 election. They've been at even greater pains this week to ensure that the same conservative groups are silenced in the 2014 midterms."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014; 2014election; conservatives; irs; irsscandals; irsteapartyscandal; teaparty
"It's IRS targeting all over again, only this time by administration design and with the raw political goal—as House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R., Mich.) notes—of putting "tea party groups out of business."
1 posted on 01/16/2014 9:20:20 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

“It’s IRS targeting all over again, only this time by administration design and with the raw political goal—as House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R., Mich.) notes—of putting “tea party groups out of business.”

I’m sure the RINOs will be right on this. They want the Tea party silenced too.


2 posted on 01/16/2014 9:23:06 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

According to Barry’s toadies in the “national media”, the FBI has turned Barry’s IRS loose on conservative, taxpaying Americans again by telling them that they won’t be prosecuted for breaking the law.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 9:30:11 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Of course . . . they got away with it in 2010, so they’ll try it again and see if they can get good results one more time.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 9:31:41 PM PST by Baladas
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

SCREWEM!

Do it anyway and let the IRS sue! By the time the IRS gets around to doing anything, the election will be over!


5 posted on 01/16/2014 9:32:06 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

[ SCREWEM!

Do it anyway and let the IRS sue! By the time the IRS gets around to doing anything, the election will be over! ]

I am so close to just saying screw everything and delving into an “underground economy”...


6 posted on 01/16/2014 9:54:32 PM PST by GraceG
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

On Thursday’s Mark Levin show he mentioned Boehner had the oppertunity to punish the IRS in the trillion dollar budget but rejected all efforts to do so.

Apparently Behner & co are ok with what the Regime are doing to the Tea Party/Conservatives.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 10:52:29 PM PST by RginTN
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Out of 534 members of of congress, how many are just as happy this is happening, 530? There’s Cruz, Lee, Paul, and Trey Gowdy; that’s all I can think of.


8 posted on 01/17/2014 12:17:04 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Excellence

Trey Gowdy votes with Boehner and the leadership on lousy budget deals like the Ryan-Murray one last month and the one this week.


9 posted on 01/17/2014 1:08:52 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
I am so sick of this corrupt bastard getting away with anything he wants, and the gutless RINOS (Yes Huck there are RINOS) doing absolutely nothing except maybe some so-called congressional hearings that go absolutely no where.
The bastard HAS TO GO while we still have a country! ! ! !
10 posted on 01/17/2014 1:51:00 AM PST by DeaconRed (GOD: Please send us one more Ronald Reagan. Soon. Thanks Deacon Red. PS It ain't Christie. . .)
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>> to ensure that the same conservative groups are silenced in the 2014 midterms.

On principle, this sucks, but there should already be enough entities in place to proceed.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 2:17:15 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

no reason to worry about our criminal in chief now or teir complicit media huh?
Can you imagine the uproar if a conservative pres was in office doing this kind of shit?
Hey NSA, if you are reading this,
F you


12 posted on 01/17/2014 3:55:45 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

no reason to worry about our criminal in chief now or teir complicit media huh?
Can you imagine the uproar if a conservative pres was in office doing this kind of shit?
Hey NSA, if you are reading this,
F you


13 posted on 01/17/2014 3:55:57 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: RginTN

Yep. The Tea Party is a thorn in the side of the GOPe.


14 posted on 01/17/2014 4:54:12 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Nextrush

Well that’s disappointing, cause he’s been fierce in his speeches.


15 posted on 01/17/2014 5:37:18 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Excellence

My congressman who voted wrong both times was on a local talk show the other day lamenting how bad things are going in Washington and how he’s read the founding documents of the country etc. etc.

Then he said things have gotten so bad that he even considered not running for re-election this year yada yada.....

Things certainly are going bad because of congressman like him voting for higher taxes and more spending all
the time.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 5:49:16 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: GraceG

Going Galt?


17 posted on 01/17/2014 7:13:40 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

This was an excellent article. I hope you read the whole thing.

Btw, the IRS can make your life miserable, so miserable that perfectly innocent people under investigation have committed suicide. It may sound cool to say, oh, just go ahead, but it’s unrealistic .

The Feds should not be able to do this in the first place.


18 posted on 01/17/2014 9:23:40 AM PST by livius
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To: livius; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

Thanks for the ping, and, yes, I did read the entire article.

AS I have stated many, many times before on this forum, there is an answer to the lawlessness we see being practiced by the IRS: ABOLISH IT!

That is right! Replace the income tax with the FairTax, and abolish the IRS!

The criminal behavior encouraged and by the Internal Revenue Code and practiced by the IRS simply has no place in a FRee society!

We the People must decide: Do we wish to be FRee, or do we wish to be slaves? We cannot be part FRee and part slave!

To find out how to help us, go to http://www.fairtax.org.


19 posted on 01/17/2014 11:54:16 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

The problem is that politicians LOVE the IRS because they get all the bribes, er, campaign contributions, to carve out special laws for their co-conspirators.


20 posted on 01/17/2014 12:06:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If you like your freedom, you can keep it.


21 posted on 01/17/2014 12:13:00 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: GraceG; stevied; GeronL
[GG] I am so close to just saying screw everything and delving into an “underground economy”...

I hope you don't mean "going Galt" .... that's what they want you to do. What they want you NOT to do is go out and push cards or do phone bank or fundraising work for Steve Stockman, Michele Bachmann, or The Sarah Who Needs No Last Name.

They would hate that.

22 posted on 01/17/2014 2:04:33 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus; stevie_d_64

Oops! Ping to my last .... I mis-punged you!


23 posted on 01/17/2014 2:05:21 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I know.

No one ever said it would be easy to replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS.

But we must do it!


24 posted on 01/17/2014 6:36:48 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well, my thought is that we could and would continue to wage war against the LIEberals and RINOs FRom the Gulch.

Guerrilla warfare is what comes to mind.


25 posted on 01/17/2014 6:40:32 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
I forewarned of this. Obama will continue until someone stops him.

And no one will stop him.

Hillary, you might as well relax. You aren't running for anything in 2016. Barack Obama has a third term to complete.

26 posted on 01/17/2014 6:44:38 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Its been a while since I was “stevied”...hehehe

BTW, I have a pretty good prediction for you...Since Corn-holio seems to want to survive the primaries so bad, he’ll jump into bed with anyone to help him do so...

The Houston Comical is all too happy to do so at this time...

I bet the Comical endorses Cornyn before the primary...And when that is all said and done, they will back the democrat for the election in November...

BTW, when you do the research, the Houston Chronicle article they mention in those ads on radio and TV, was really an “editorial”...Not a fact based piece of journalism...Opinion more than anything that accused Stockman of “shady” business and financial dealings...

Which was debunked at the end of the day...

Cornyn must really be sweating to the oldies if they are attacking Stockman personally, and not debating the “issues”...

Speaks volumes to many people...

Cornyn needs to be retired...Just my opinion...


27 posted on 01/17/2014 8:55:41 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Taxman

I support a 50 State solution.

The Fair Tax still has too much control over individuals who run businesses and requires a bureaucracy of hundreds of employees to manage it.

Solution: The federal government sends out 50 bills once a year to each state. The size of the bill is based on the number of adults in the state as determined by the most recent census. The states then figure out how to pay it.

With 50 states experimenting on means to collect the tax, eventually the most efficient; least expensive to the state, business, and individual; and compassionate measures would emerge.

However....If it is a choice between what we have now and a Fair Tax, I support the Fair Tax.


28 posted on 01/18/2014 7:07:18 AM PST by wintertime
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
Bttt.

5.56mm

29 posted on 01/18/2014 7:10:10 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: wintertime

Philosophically, I am not opposed to your idea of a “50 state” solution. Since the local governments and states are supposed to be the “melting pot” of governance re: Our FRee Republic and concepts/ideas/workable solutions to improve life in our FRee Republic, it makes eminent sense to me.

HST, the immediate solution to the USA’s economic problems is The Fair Tax Act of 2013 HR 25/S 122. See http://www.fairtax.org for more information.

And, in point of fact, Fair Tax legislation allows for each state to collect the tax via their respective state sales tax agency. The 5 states without a sales tax would be encouraged to establish a sales tax or the Feds would set up a mechanism and collect the tax. States would be encouraged to harmonize their sales tax with the FairTax to avoid confusion.

The IRS would be reduced to an agency that monitored state FairTax collection activities, and retailers and the states would be paid a small percentage of their respective tax receipts to cover administrative costs.

The ordinary citizen who was not involved in the ownership or management of a retail store would NEVER be hassled by federal tax agent again!

And, Americans would be FRee to work, earn, save and invest without having to divulge their private financials to a busybody government drone! Their PRIVATE financial affairs would once again, BE PRIVATE!

We are talking FReedom here!


30 posted on 01/18/2014 2:41:08 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: wintertime

PS Sorry, forgot to thank you for supporting the FairTax!


31 posted on 01/18/2014 2:42:01 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: stevie_d_64
That's why freedom of the press works only if there is more than one press.

In 1787 the Federalists screwed the (majority) Antifederalists by holding their newspapers and letters at the Post Office for weeks and weeks, "losing" some mail, and generally monopolizing printed opinion (because all the newspaper publishers were Federalists).

We were lucky, very lucky, to get the Bill of Rights -- but it's illuminating to know that the Civil War, FDR, stolen elections and Obama were all baked into the cake that long ago. There's a book out there (that reminds me!) that I need to go get .... an old one from the 60's or 90's or something, but it was referenced in a recent National Review Online article about "motivated" splinter-group advocacy and how they roll the majority every time (by cheating, lying, blackmail, extortion, bribery, etc. etc.). The book is not at all new, but I've never heard of it --- gee, wonder why? Anyway, I need to read it so I can get totally depressed. Thus passeth representative democracy.

32 posted on 01/20/2014 2:24:01 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Taxman
No one ever said it would be easy to replace the income tax with the FairTax

So now that I'm retired after paying a lifetime's worth of income taxes, now you're going to reload me with a national sales tax, and tax my savings too?

Not with my consent, grifter.

Why don't you and your business partners just get on down the road to some no-tax/low-tax Central American thugocracy? Pick on them instead.

33 posted on 01/20/2014 2:30:07 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: stevie_d_64
BTW, when you do the research, the Houston Chronicle article they mention in those ads on radio and TV, was really an “editorial”...Not a fact based piece of journalism...

So the Chronicle's propaganda efforts have "gone black" .... not surprising considering the moral tenor of that place since the former editor of the Albany (N.Y.) fishwrap took over and, per the publisher's instructions, jerked the paper sharply to the left and gay, gay, gay 24/7/365.

34 posted on 01/20/2014 2:37:19 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

You will be paying taxes until you die, and the odds are that you will pay more in income taxes as a retiree than you would pay in FairTax.

Selfish bastards like you are the kind of people that have helped destroy America!

Think outside your selfish box and seriously consider what kind of country you want to live in!

The issue is FReedom and Liberty, and so long as we have an income tax and an IRS we will not be a FRee people!


35 posted on 01/20/2014 4:00:56 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

People aren’t still falling for the “FAIRtax” crap again are they?


36 posted on 01/20/2014 4:02:26 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles; Lazamataz

Heads up bro .... they’ll be coming for us. Be not afraid for I have my records in order.


37 posted on 01/20/2014 4:05:04 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

They can audit me all they want, I’m a 1040EZ guy. LOL


38 posted on 01/20/2014 4:27:20 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

No, you’re just an EZ guy! (rimshot!)


39 posted on 01/20/2014 4:44:59 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

40 posted on 01/20/2014 4:49:49 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GeronL

It is not “crap!”

FairTax is the only chance we have to save the country!


41 posted on 01/20/2014 6:23:34 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Sure, I would not waste a perfectly good fish on the rags around this country these days...Its not the fish’s fault...

I was thinking a better use for newspapers is for those with birds, as cage liners...


42 posted on 01/22/2014 3:20:21 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Good point. Spare the fish, go spoil something else. Like a paper bag of 13-day-old road kill.


43 posted on 01/22/2014 3:34:16 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Mmmmmmmmm, jerky!!!

Gag....spit....barf....


44 posted on 01/23/2014 2:15:45 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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