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Congress Blocks Slaughtering Horses For Meat In U.S.
NPR ^ | January 17, 2014 | Allison Aubrey

Posted on 01/19/2014 2:34:06 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Monorprise
"The same thing goes for plants"

I've always wondered just where are the plants' rights activists?

should we have laws AGAINST cutting your lawn?

Eating plants or, even worse, the seeds of plants?

41 posted on 01/19/2014 4:30:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

“Well, THAT explains everything:”

Dinner on the hoof!


42 posted on 01/19/2014 4:35:48 PM PST by dalereed
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To: nickcarraway

I wish there were some document that spelled out exactly what the federal government could do. It seems like they’re always making laws.


43 posted on 01/19/2014 4:41:43 PM PST by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I’ve had horse meat. There’s not much flavor to it compared to beef; it’s too lean. Meat needs a certain amount of fat in it to have a good flavor.

Morally, I have no objection to it. If a horse is going to be put down because it’s injured (not diseased) and the meat isn’t used, it’s a waste of good food that a hungry person could be eating. I don’t know that I’d especially like to see a horse meat industry, however.


44 posted on 01/19/2014 4:48:04 PM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: nickcarraway

This issue shows better than any other why the 19th Amendment was a really bad idea.


45 posted on 01/19/2014 4:50:58 PM PST by NVDave
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To: beelzepug
it’s a waste of good food that a hungry person could be eating

Horse burgers, horse salad, horse pie, horse chops, horse ribs, horse tacos, spaghetti and horse balls...

46 posted on 01/19/2014 4:56:39 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: nickcarraway

A lot of backhoes are rented out on an hourly basis here in the Midwest.


47 posted on 01/19/2014 5:01:21 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: nickcarraway

Typical feel-good leftism that will create unintended consequences and problems bigger than the ones the law intended to solve.


48 posted on 01/19/2014 5:03:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: Tammy8
The anti slaughter nuts and Obama’s economy has destroyed the horse market. Slaughter prices kept a floor under horse prices. Now many horses are worthless. Responsible breeders of quality animals that regular folks can afford are getting out in droves. Soon the horse world will belong to the rich only. The horse industry was a large industry that provided a lot of jobs. Now it is dying. It has been my life for over fifty years. I hate that many people now will never have the joy of being in horses. Not to mention the suffering of the animals
49 posted on 01/19/2014 5:05:26 PM PST by Himyar
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To: NVDave

“...19th Amendment was a really bad idea.”

You’re a braver man than I am, Dave.


50 posted on 01/19/2014 5:12:24 PM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Paladin2

“I’ve always wondered just where are the plants’ rights activists?

should we have laws AGAINST cutting your lawn?

Eating plants or, even worse, the seeds of plants?”

Perhaps its just too hard for a liberal to see beyond the ability to move.


51 posted on 01/19/2014 6:06:59 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

The progeny of plants move. As do some of the “creepers” (covering all sorts of long lived “plants”).


52 posted on 01/19/2014 6:14:49 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: beelzepug

I’m not brave. I’m right.

I’ve sat in meeting after meeting in Nevada over the “mustangs” and what to do with them. This whole “no horse slaughter!” hue and cry started with the Wild Horse Annie types in Nevada and California, hoping to prevent any “wild horses” from being slaughtered.

See, here’s the dirty little secret:

“Mustangs” overrun Nevada. In Nevada, there are perhaps half of all “mustangs” that are out there on BLM lands. There are significant populations in other states, but Nevada has about half of all mustangs in the west.

And the mustangs eat themselves out of house and home - and everyone else too. Without gathers or hard winters to kill them off, a mustang herd grows by about 17 to 20% PER YEAR... in five years, you will see a herd size double.

The WHA types have fought gathers to a standstill. So the horses pound the range into dust, wallow out springs and water holes with their territorial fights, etc. Since 2000, we (the taxpayers) have spent millions upon millions of dollars shipping the “surplus” mustangs that can’t/won’t be adopted around the country, from one contract pasture/feed operation to another. This is because the dirty little secret about mustang adoptions is that only the young horses are adopted. Only the pretty horses are adopted. There are entire herds of mustangs now in the west that are some of the ugliest, most freakish things pretending to be a horse you’ve ever seen. No one is going to adopt these horses.

But, old or ugly or not, they can still breed. So what do do?

Well, we could gather them... and ship them off to the slaughterhouse, or (as the WHA types insisted) we truck them around the country, Thanks to the WHA types, we’re doing the latter - at ever-increasing costs.

These meetings over horses and horse policy have always resulted in a huge outpouring of wet, soppy emotion from women in Nevada and the west. Every meeting I’ve attended on the issue of horses on public lands has been overrun with these women making emotional appeals, complete with waterworks being deployed. Male politicians need to grow a pair and tell women “Sorry, but what you want just won’t work. Period. We have to make sound policy on rational, logical and mathematically supportable evidence and outcomes. And that means that some horses are going to slaughter plants. Best that they die in as humane a manner as possible, rather than starve to death in a drought or freeze in the winter.”

These women constantly get over-wrought over the possibility that a horse dies in a slaughter plant, but they seem to not comprehend what can be seen in pictures of horses that died in snowdrifts in box canyons in the winters. The snow melts and the horse drops straight down onto its chest. You can tell the horses that died in snow vs. the ones that died in clear conditions. The coyotes and wolves can’t get to the carcasses that are standing up in a snow drift. They’re pretty much whole come spring. The women don’t seem to want to see what’s in these pictures - they have a whole universe of pain created in their heads with the slaughterhouse operation, but can’t comprehend what happens otherwise.

It’s full-throttle stupidity, I tell you.


53 posted on 01/19/2014 6:32:25 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Paladin2

“The progeny of plants move. As do some of the “creepers” (covering all sorts of long lived “plants”).”

Liberals don’t have the foresight to think about progeny, if they did they would never consider abortion as anything other than murder. They would also recognize our sub-replacement level birthrates as a serous problem.


54 posted on 01/19/2014 6:36:34 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: lastchance

>”Wonderful news. There is no humane way to slaughter horses”<

Do you have a source for that conclusion?

Seems to me that the same method used when slaughtering a Cow would be appropriate. The Animal is stunned using a pneumatic hammer and then bled out. Why would it be different for a Horse?

I am not a Hunter, nor do I ever plan on eating Horsemeat, but sending the Animals to Mexico to be killed seems like a worse fate. Out of sight, out of mind...


55 posted on 01/19/2014 6:38:26 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: nickcarraway
Horse meat faces ban in Italy
The Telegraph
By Nick Pisa in Rome
6:20AM GMT 08 Feb 2010
Excerpt:
"Italy is the largest consumer of horsemeat in Europe with more than 48,000 metric tonnes eaten every year and it is a common dish among youngsters because of its high iron content."

http://www.foodstandards.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/salamisurvey171203
"No more horsing around with salami
Wednesday, 17 December 2003
A UK-wide investigation carried out by the Food Standards Agency suggests that consumers should no longer be concerned about the problem of salami containing undeclared horsemeat and donkeymeat"

Horse Meat Discovered In Burgers Sold In UK And Ireland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2978441/posts

Report: Italian Mafia Behind Horsemeat Scandals
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2986927/posts

Placenta: It's What's for Dinner
LA Weekly ^ | Thu., Jun. 27 2013 | Liana Aghajanian

...Valerie Rosas is standing in a kitchen, carefully cutting little pieces of meat with a chef's knife on a disposable cutting board...It's human placenta...Rosas is a placenta encapsulationist — which means she helps transform the organ expelled after childbirth into something edible:...Sara Pereira, who has encapsulated more than 800 placentas,...stresses the importance of communication with clients..."It's becoming so widespread...," Pereira says...Rosas says..."Your own body made it, it's just for you," she says. "No one could prescribe anything more perfect than what your body has made for you."



56 posted on 01/19/2014 7:01:57 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: nickcarraway
"The provision bans the funding of U.S. Department of Agriculture inspections at horse slaughter plants. And without inspections, slaughterhouses can't be in business. Game over."

So the government-linked corporations have been getting inspections funded by the government? If we process meat from a small farm, we have to pay for those inspections ourselves.

So a big "no" to that funding. As for horses, they're fine for dog food, glue, etc. Learn to do some real work yourself, political/regulator folks, and make your own dog food out of that animal doing nothing more than standing, foundering and starving on your "horse properties."


57 posted on 01/19/2014 7:12:03 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: NVDave
"This issue shows better than any other why the 19th Amendment was a really bad idea."

How Dramatically Did Women's Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?

JOHN R. LOTT Jr.
American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (download links for whole document at bottom of page)

September 1998

University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 60
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, Number 6, Part 1, pp. 1163-1198, December 1999

Abstract:
This paper examines the growth of government during this century as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional time-series data for 1870 to 1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American government started growing when it did.

58 posted on 01/19/2014 7:15:11 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: NVDave

Oh, Ur in trouble now, plenty....


59 posted on 01/19/2014 8:17:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: James C. Bennett

Yes, I agree with that.


60 posted on 01/19/2014 9:03:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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