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To: elteemike

This so-called “publiushuldah” character is dead to me.

I won’t dwell too much on facts in this reply (other than below), because in a previous encounter elsewhere with this very “person”, she raked me over the coals with a personal attack, the kind that would warrant the abuse button here on FR, and moderator action.

However, I’ll point to one thing on that link - she talks about congress selecting the COS delegates, and the number from each state. This is not so. You can read the COS-setup legislation from Indiana (one of the furthest thru the COS process) and you can read various law journal articles that document convention precedent. Delegates WILL be selected by state legislatures, and each state’s delegation, whether they send one or 10 delegates, will be limited to one vote. There is an expected next meeting in May and another in December, where I’d expect some of this will hash out - ie, how many delegates. Now, it is in COS power (not the congress) to steer from this, BUT, then the COS simply will not happen - it will collapse, as too many states would pull out.


17 posted on 01/20/2014 8:49:44 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: C210N
Upon application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the states, Congress calls the Convention.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

U.S. Const. art. V

Delegates where chosen by States in a previous Convention called by Congress.

On February 21, 1787 Congress proposed a Convention for "the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation"

Resolved that in the opinion of Congress it is expedient that on the second Monday in May next a Convention of delegates who shall have been appointed by the several States be held at Philadelphia for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation and reporting to Congress and the several legislatures such alterations and provisions therein as shall when agreed to in Congress and confirmed by the States render the federal Constitution adequate to the exigencies of Government and the preservation of the Union.

Journals of the Continental Congress, 32:74

The rest is history.

Who controls the States? Democrats and Republicans do. The Uniparty - Democrats and Vichy Republicans - are the problem, not the structure of the government.

Do you trust Democrats or Republican bosses to select delegates? Would “fairness” be construed to demand equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans? These organizations are the problem, they have a stranglehold on power.

A Convention for a "sole and express purpose" can and has morphed into a new form of government.

25 posted on 01/20/2014 9:36:57 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: C210N; Ray76
States will not send reps. They will send delegates with commissions.

Here is Indiana's Statute to govern her delegates. Scroll to the bottom to the enrolled PDF.

Duties of Article V convention delegates:

Describes the duties of delegates and alternate delegates to a convention called under Article V of the Constitution of the United States.

Provides that a vote cast by a delegate or an alternate delegate that is outside the scope of the instructions given by the general assembly is void.

Provides that a delegate or alternate delegate who votes or attempts to vote outside the scope of the instructions given by the general assembly forfeits the delegate's appointment by virtue of that vote or attempt to vote.

Provides that the call by the general assembly for an Article V convention is withdrawn if all delegates and alternate delegates vote or attempt to vote outside the scope of the instructions given by the general assembly.

Provides that a delegate or alternate delegate who knowingly or intentionally votes or attempts to vote outside the scope of the instructions commits a Class D felony.

Establishes an advisory group to evaluate whether a delegate or an alternate delegate has acted outside the scope of instructions.

32 posted on 01/20/2014 1:26:17 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: C210N
Publius Huldah on Nullification - Part 1

Exacly who is this woman, anyway? What makes her an "expert?"

37 posted on 01/20/2014 2:23:52 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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