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And When I Die
Townhall.com ^ | January 19, 2014 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 01/20/2014 1:25:59 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Elsie

In the Book of Hezekiah..

:)

actually 2 Kings 20:1, Isaiah 38:1


41 posted on 01/20/2014 2:58:20 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Exactly. I turn 60 very soon. The apostle Paul said to live is Christ and to die is gain.

I kinda look at it this way. Imagine this life is a video game you really, REALLY enjoy playing. SO you are in this video parlor playing your video game and one day you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. It’s like, while you are playing your game and trying not to get killed by the bad guys, or whatever, someone runs in and says, “Hey, some guy just dropped off a Bugatti and said it’s yours and you can drive it to the airport where your personal Lear Jet is waiting to take you wherever you want.

You love your game, but this may be a bit distracting. And when you DO get “killed” in your video game, it’s not exactly a disappointment as you run to your new car with keys in hand. :-)


42 posted on 01/20/2014 3:02:08 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: impactplayer
I died to self when I was Baptized, and for those in Christ there is no second death - no judgement. And I’m ready - any time . . .

The Book says...


The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books.


Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.
 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
 
 
 
Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
 
 
Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
 
 
 
Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
 
Revelation 21:27
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

43 posted on 01/20/2014 3:02:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Praise GOD that he is alright. I have felt the hands of an Angel save me more than once. I know that they are real. I would be dead otherwise.


44 posted on 01/20/2014 3:27:25 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Praise GOD that he is alright. I have felt the hands of an Angel save me more than once. I know that they are real. I would be dead otherwise."

Thank you, LLS, and amen. I agree with you. It's very true that God does send angels to protect us. I know of it happening in my family.

When something like that happens, you fall down and thank Him, before you do anything else.

45 posted on 01/20/2014 3:48:17 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I also have no fear of death. My husband and other family members still need me, though, so I want to be here for them.

Ah, yes, the pain idea. I also fear pain. If I must die a painful death, I hope the Lord gives me the strength to be brave.


46 posted on 01/20/2014 3:48:58 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: July4

...her last words were, “It’s Pa! And he’s coming for me in the wagon!”

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Many years ago, my mother told me about her father’s death. She was a very young woman, when my grandfather died at home, as most people did in those days, the 1920s. She told me that his last words were, “Mama and Papa”.

Years later, that story came back to me while I was doing some reading about people who have come back from near death experiences. So I suppose my grandfather was actually seeing his parents.


47 posted on 01/20/2014 3:55:35 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I understand your thankfulness. Hubby just avoided having a 'widowmaker' heart attack this past summer. He had some discomfort, which felt really strange to him, so we took him to the ER. He had one artery that was completely blocked, and had been for a while, because it had begun to grow 'feeders', and another that was 95% blocked. Doc said it was only a matter of time before he'd had a fatal heart attack. Thank God we found it, so he was able to have a double bypass, and get it fixed! Another blessing was that he didn't have to have a vein taken from his leg or have to go on the heart-lung machine!

We know how very Blessed we are!

48 posted on 01/20/2014 4:09:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: onedoug
It ain’t death. It’s dying.

The Native Americans didn't use the word death when one of their relatives/people 'died." They called it 'passing over" - designating their belief (acknowledgment?) of continued life in another realm.

Those who have had the 'other side experience' and came back describe it a wondrous place...I've often thought that we don't have a thorough knowledge of it because people might choose suicide much more often.

Thing is, with suicide, (taking a life you didn't create), doesn't seem to slip you into the wondrous place but into a limbo where you may be stuck for some time to come?

TAke the case of 'past lives coming through' under hypnosis - or 'ghosts' being contacted by psychics:

There is a common thread. they almost invariably died a violent (before their appointed time?") death, often through suicide or homicide due in part to their life style.

I am of the opinion that those stories are not from the person's past lives, but from people in limbo who can use the person's body - which is rendered incapacitated under hypnosis, or with contact with a psychic , to make themselves heard.

Suicide, to me, would be too risky - changing what we may deem a hard situation here to one as bad or worse from which we may not escape for a much longer time.

49 posted on 01/20/2014 4:20:19 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Wow catherine! I’m really thankful that your husband survived that. And yes I do think it was the Lords grace!


50 posted on 01/20/2014 4:34:06 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: SuziQ

Wow. What a close call. Praise God for your husband’s health.


51 posted on 01/20/2014 4:37:16 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: avenir

Avenir, thank you. It really was His mercy...I’m convinced of it.


52 posted on 01/20/2014 4:38:02 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: maine-iac7
There've been many variations of the "Many Worlds" interpretation of quantum mechanics since Hugh Everett first gave it expression in 1957. One in particular comes from M-Theory, which proposes "connectivity" between this and an infinite number of "other worlds" which Everett proposed as the realization of all possible outcomes, and not just what we see as left or right handedness in a sub-atomic setting.

I was just speculating on this today - which is all one can really do in such circumstances so long as one stays within the known laws of physics - I wondered weather if when we die, our consciousness after the event is simply "continued" in another universe, or bubble I believe is the more fashionable phrase. Again and again would we die and continue, which could approach infinity in the limit.

Of course it's up to God as to how He does things. But it is fun to bend His fabric a little here and there.

53 posted on 01/20/2014 5:24:26 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Kaslin
But back to where I started -- all I know is this world and it seems such a shame that I will only have another 15, 20, or 30 years to enjoy the beauty of being – to share time with my wonderful wife, children and friends, to read books or to listen to music, to go to a Broadway musical or see a baseball game.

It was a warm summer Sunday. A Sunday just like hundreds before it; but THIS day I was just a bit down as I drove the same path to church I'd driven so many times before.

I'd passed a suv full of happy looking folks that where evidently heading to the reservoir for a day of fun on the water, for they were pulling a large outboard behind them.

'Why don't I take some time off and do the same?' was my thought, as I silently envied them. 'Why don't I get to do fun things?'

'There's never enough time for...'



Then that Other voice said, "There'll be PLENTY of 'time'; later on."

54 posted on 01/20/2014 5:47:05 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: onedoug
I was just speculating on this today - which is all one can really do in such circumstances so long as one stays within the known laws of physics - I wondered weather if when we die, our consciousness after the event is simply "continued" in another universe, or bubble I believe is the more fashionable phrase. Again and again would we die and continue, which could approach infinity in the limit.

Of course it's up to God as to how He does things. But it is fun to bend His fabric a little here and there.


I remember this line from the 1984 movie, "The Last Starfighter," where all the pilots were wiped out by Xur and the Ko-Dan Armada and Alex, the gunner was discussing this with his ship's pilot, Grig:

Alex Rogan: You mean they're dead?

Grig: [scoffs] Death is a primitive concept. I prefer to think of them as battling evil in another dimension.


I'll be honest, I've been thinking about this myself since I lost my mother and yes, death does scare me. I do feel strongly there is "another side" but I guess there is always the unknown element and the fear of dying in pain. I've had out of body experiences myself where I felt myself floating and I looked down and saw my own body as well as some of my cats who passed on when I had those experiences. I've also seen ghosts of my casts and petted them as well, other times, I see them out of the corner of my eye.

I do feel my mother is close to me. I was looking for a shirt I needed for work and while in the store, I whispered, "mom, I need your help here, help me find a shirt for work." I then turned around and above my shoulder, I found the shirt I needed. Another time, I was driving home on the night she passed and I heard her voice say, "hit the brakes" so I did. Had I not, I would have creamed a deer.
55 posted on 01/20/2014 7:57:44 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: CatherineofAragon

And yours, as well!


56 posted on 01/20/2014 8:02:18 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: CatherineofAragon

Though I attended Catholic schools for twelve years, I’m not sure about angels. What I recognize is God keeping an eye on me and my family in large and small situations. I am so thankful to Him.


57 posted on 01/20/2014 8:25:36 PM PST by IIntense
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To: onedoug
Jesus taught quantum physics - if we concentrate on what HE taught without all the interpretations of what he taught.

But if we ‘got’ what he taught, we wouldn't need man's institutions - and THEN where would they be? LOL

and in conjunction with what you wrote - He did tell us “In My Father's house are many mansions.” Yet we never got that either. We still talk of only heaven and hell.

Zero Point. Light - The Matrix.

It's all so much more that taught in mans’ institutions.

Interesting that the Mormona have a translation said to be from Moses - that reads “And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten.”

Interesting in that this was published over 160 years ago, long before any knowledge or thought of other planets were out there...something we are just beginning to learn.

The vastness of creation is beyond even our imaginations.

Jesus also taught ‘manifestation’. - What we could accomplish if we put what He taught into practice. but daily we travel farther from the east...

I think this is my favorite of all poems:

excerpt from

Ode on Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood

by William Wordsworth

Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting;
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting
And cometh from afar;
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature's priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended;
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.

Earth fills her lap with pleasures of her own;
Yearnings she hath in her own natural kind,
And, even with something of a mother's mind,
And no unworthy aim,
The homely nurse doth all she can
To make her foster-child, her inmate, Man,
Forget the glories he hath known,
And that imperial palace whence he came.

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We still have glimpses - but then, it's time to cook supper...

58 posted on 01/20/2014 10:11:11 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: IIntense
Amen to that. The Bible teaches that God does send angels to protect and help us, but when and if He chooses to do that is up to Him. He can do so without the use of angels.

There used to be a sort of angel "movement", in which people prayed to angels and came pretty close to worshiping them. We shouldn't do any of that. Angels are simply God's messengers, completely under His control.

59 posted on 01/21/2014 9:45:48 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon

Now I just spend my time observing how many are dancing on pinheads.


60 posted on 01/21/2014 2:14:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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