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Charge rage on rise over lack of Silicon Valley car charging stations
CBC News ^ | Jan. 20, 2014 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/20/2014 8:15:52 PM PST by RansomOttawa

An increasing number of electric-vehicle driving employees at Silicon Valley companies are finding it hard to access car-charging stations at work, creating incidents of "charge rage" among drivers.

Installation of electric vehicle charging ports at some companies has not kept pace with soaring demand, creating thorny etiquette issues in the workplace, the San Jose Mercury News reported.

Peter Graf, chief sustainability officer for German software company SAP, says the company's 16 charging stations are now not nearly enough for the 61 employees who drive electric vehicles.

Graf says cars are getting unplugged while charging, creating animosity between employees. A charge can take as little as 30 minutes.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: electric; electriccar; green; greencar; silicon; siliconvalley; supplyanddemand
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Seriously? "Charge rage"? Don't these people have homes to plug their cars into? I'll bet the corporations don't employ pump jockeys to top up the gas tanks of employees who drive petroleum-fueled vehicles.

I'm curious, since there aren't enough EVs around here to make this an issue yet. Are these companies providing their employees' cars with free electricity, or is this something the drivers would typically have to pay for?

1 posted on 01/20/2014 8:15:52 PM PST by RansomOttawa
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To: RansomOttawa

It’s probably promoted as a perq at the companies. As to dealing with the “rage”, the best solution would be to spend a few bucks to have an “app” written, so that when your car is done, it pings you to let the next person plug in, and also manages the queue. When you get to work in the morning, you “check in” a la “Foursquare”, and the app tracks you on a first-come/first-serve basis, and routes each car to the first available station (since different EVs will have different charge times). You could even put in a function to allow you to charge to a certain level, rather than a full charge, to minimize wait time.


2 posted on 01/20/2014 8:20:27 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: RansomOttawa

My company in Silicon Valley installed several chargers and I’ve wondered the same thing. This was never discussed when they were unveiled with great fanfare. Looking at the charging stations, I don’t see any way for users to swipe a credit card or otherwise identify themselves.


3 posted on 01/20/2014 8:20:40 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Slings and Arrows

This plight of the Metrosexuals shall not go unnoticed!

Available charging stations should be a fundamental right for Pajama Boys everywhere!

I’m sure the 9th Circus will find it in the Constitution somewhere.


4 posted on 01/20/2014 8:23:19 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: RansomOttawa
I've seen a couple public charging stations, one at the supermarket and one at the library. Never seen a car at either and both have spiderwebs across them.
5 posted on 01/20/2014 8:23:46 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Little Pig
Wait until the Ford C-Max Solar Energi goes commercial and all the EVs in your lot move themselves throughout the day to maximize their juice from the sun.

Just wait for the lawsuits to fly when a person gets crushed under the wheels of a C-Max moving 0.0001 mph.

6 posted on 01/20/2014 8:24:22 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: RansomOttawa
I'm curious, since there aren't enough EVs around here to make this an issue yet.

I've never even seen an electric car. I had no idea this was going on anywhere.

7 posted on 01/20/2014 8:24:23 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: RansomOttawa

Cube tap


8 posted on 01/20/2014 8:24:24 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RansomOttawa

Saw a cmax hooked up to a charging station at work, walking in the other day. I noticed there are about eight or so stations around about. Only that one in use though. I suspect folks ride in at the limit of the vehicle’s range and have to recharge at work to get home. You can see how unplugging a charger might cause some animosity.


9 posted on 01/20/2014 8:24:58 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: RansomOttawa

I don’t believe this. There are about 10 times as many charging stations than are needed.


10 posted on 01/20/2014 8:25:34 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: RansomOttawa

Wouldn’t you check on availability of chargers before buying an electric car? I can see why, if the electricity is free there, one would prefer charging at work. (It’s all a gimmick anyway.)


11 posted on 01/20/2014 8:26:24 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: RansomOttawa

Some brutal slap fights have broken out reportedly.


12 posted on 01/20/2014 8:30:23 PM PST by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: RansomOttawa
I CAN'T belIEVE it--Sillycon ingenues whining about not enough car chargers??? I DON'T believe it.
They are NOT spoiled brats! They're not. NOT!!!NOT!!!NOT!!!NOT!!!NOT!!!
13 posted on 01/20/2014 8:30:59 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: informavoracious; RansomOttawa
(It’s all a gimmick GIMME anyway.)

Fixed.

14 posted on 01/20/2014 8:34:08 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Little Pig

61 vehicles / 16 charging stations ~ 4 vehicles per charging station

2 hours each

8 -10
10 - 12
13 - 15
15 - 17


15 posted on 01/20/2014 8:34:37 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Little Pig

Yess...so you could spend part of the workday jockeying your car around and get paid for it....it would be like an extra coffee break for anyone driving an EV...Brilliant idea!


16 posted on 01/20/2014 8:36:21 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: KoRn

First world problem


17 posted on 01/20/2014 8:36:27 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

And the quote to buy land to double the size of all parking lots


18 posted on 01/20/2014 8:38:14 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: reg45

The owners prolly bill out at $200 hour.
You will need a car jockey with a ring full of Car keys.

I wonder if George Costanza is interested in a west coast job


19 posted on 01/20/2014 8:41:30 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: KoRn
Available charging stations should be a fundamental right for Pajama Boys everywhere!

Perhaps the 9th Circuit Court will order people to open up their homes to allow passing Pajama Boys to charge their vehicles.

After all, since they ignore the 2A they might as well ignore the 4A too.

20 posted on 01/20/2014 8:44:22 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: RansomOttawa

So i could go to a free charging station and charge a bunch of lead acid cells and bring them home and use the energy to heat my home?


21 posted on 01/20/2014 8:45:10 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Cool...


22 posted on 01/20/2014 8:45:41 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Nuc 1.1
I suspect folks ride in at the limit of the vehicle’s range and have to recharge at work to get home. You can see how unplugging a charger might cause some animosity.

I did consider that, and my first thought was, who in their right mind buys a vehicle that they can't guarantee will be able to make the round trip?

23 posted on 01/20/2014 8:48:08 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I was thinking wait for the lawsuit- when someone leaves a child in the car and said child is fried like a ant


24 posted on 01/20/2014 8:50:30 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: RansomOttawa

“16 charging stations are now not nearly enough for the 61 employees”

hmmm. 61/16 = 4.

8 / 4 = 2!

Simple. Every two hours give the electric drivers a 30 minute break to switch off.


25 posted on 01/20/2014 8:51:19 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: informavoracious
Wouldn’t you check on availability of chargers before buying an electric car?

Yep. For the same reason I would think twice before buying a car powered by propane, natural gas, or some other alternative fuel. I'd like to know I'd be able to get it back home from wherever I drive it. Gasoline is ubiquitous; other fuel types, not as much yet. I'm all for fuel economy and clean cars—as long as the reason is because the car is designed to pollute less, not because it's sitting useless in the breakdown lane.

26 posted on 01/20/2014 8:52:31 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I've seen a couple public charging stations, one at the supermarket and one at the library. Never seen a car at either and both have spiderwebs across them.

Ha...just wait till some enterprising guy sets up a fake electric car and transports the free electricity back home for his own use.....

not too difficult to do with a fuel cell....or even a big battery pack.

27 posted on 01/20/2014 8:52:35 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: spokeshave

Like a full sized van full of batteries . . .


28 posted on 01/20/2014 8:54:53 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: RansomOttawa

I have a diesel. I plan in advance to be filled up before I go someplace where it is not readily available. Diesel’s easy to get near interstates; in small remote towns, not so much.


29 posted on 01/20/2014 8:56:01 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Steven Tyler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxyhfiCO_XQ


30 posted on 01/20/2014 8:56:56 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: RansomOttawa

All that brilliance in SV, and these dolts didn’t consider that when buying the vehicle? They deserve it.


31 posted on 01/20/2014 8:57:43 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: RansomOttawa
An increasing number of electric-vehicle driving employees at Silicon Valley companies are finding it hard to access car-charging stations at work...

Well boo hoo hoo. They should call an electric waaambulance! I find it impossible to access a gasoline pump at my place of work and do just fine.

32 posted on 01/20/2014 8:58:09 PM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just wait for that special accident where the lens focuses on the pinned driver or other occupant, and fries em.


33 posted on 01/20/2014 8:59:29 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: RansomOttawa

Yes, I am sure they have homes with outlets. But here may be the problem. The Chevy Volt, for example, gets about 20 miles or so on a charge before it needs to use gasoline power. If someone drove 15 miles to work, he will want to charge up to get back home. Other plug in hybrids have the same kind of capability — if fully charged, they can go a certain distance using just the battery pack.


34 posted on 01/20/2014 9:19:23 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: RansomOttawa

Most only get a certain range so they most likely charge before they leave for work and then they would have to charge again to get home I believe.


35 posted on 01/20/2014 9:28:50 PM PST by funfan
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To: RansomOttawa

LOL

Wait until summer and things will really sizzle


36 posted on 01/20/2014 9:49:16 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: RansomOttawa

Betcha not a lot of work is done by employees who drive EVs, as they must stand around to plug their cars in when a slot opens up and then stand around while it charges so they can can unhook and free up the slot for the next EV.


37 posted on 01/20/2014 9:54:03 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: RansomOttawa

If they drove automobiles instead of Tonka Toys they wouldn’t need charging stations!


38 posted on 01/20/2014 10:12:34 PM PST by dalereed
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To: RansomOttawa

Are they paying for these charges? If it is free, that leads to over demand


39 posted on 01/20/2014 10:16:13 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: TexasGator

Imagine looking out the window at the parking circus every 2 hours


40 posted on 01/20/2014 10:20:10 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: TexasGator

Anyone with half a brain can see the value of setting up a car charging business to meet the demand. Given the apparent ‘rage,’ an smart business person could make a mint. then of course, create jobs to have people operate the stations and provide other minor services.


41 posted on 01/20/2014 10:21:00 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

EV owners want their electricity for free I bet


42 posted on 01/20/2014 10:46:25 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

No wonder there are few of them set up.


43 posted on 01/20/2014 10:48:38 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: RansomOttawa

Wait until people start charging battery packs in the trunks of their gas powered cars at these charging stations and then powering their home for free...


44 posted on 01/20/2014 11:03:39 PM PST by DB
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To: RansomOttawa

This story gave me a happy.


45 posted on 01/20/2014 11:12:51 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: RansomOttawa

Big advantage to gasoline/diesel. Full tank in a couple minutes. No waiting.


46 posted on 01/21/2014 1:06:44 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: GeronL

Where I work (northern VA) the electric cars get free charging. The deal is that building owner gets to pretend they are “green” and pick up some subsidies. They also have mostly empty bike racks for the same reason. The primary purpose of electric cars, rooftop solar and other such nonsense is to pick up subsidies.


47 posted on 01/21/2014 1:11:41 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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The rage is no doubt hastened by the buyer’s remorse these ideologues must be experiencing.


48 posted on 01/21/2014 1:17:10 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: RansomOttawa

The “problem” here is that the charging system costs about $2,000 and probably requires a new 240V circuit in your electrical box, which means another couple of hundred for an overpriced electrician. That’s why everybody wants to use somebody else’s charger.


49 posted on 01/21/2014 3:00:20 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: RansomOttawa

Liberals not doing due diligence? Can this be possible?


50 posted on 01/21/2014 3:04:41 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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