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Target will drop health insurance for its part-time employees
Star Tribune ^ | 1-21-14 | JACKIE CROSBY

Posted on 01/21/2014 7:29:31 PM PST by TurboZamboni

Target Corp. said Tuesday that it will stop offering health insurance to its part-time employees because new online health exchanges offer workers an opportunity to buy coverage.

The Minneapolis-based retailer will give each worker $500 to help buy health insurance, and has arranged for one-on-one consultations with benefits manager Towers Watson to help with the transition.

The retailer announced the decision through its online site, “A Bullseye View: Behind the Scenes at Target,” in a Q&A with Jodee Kozlak, Target’s executive vice president of human resources.

In the article, Kozlak acknowledged the disruption to workers. But she said the exchanges might offer options that some workers will prefer, and noted that those who qualify for subsidies and tax credits could find insurance that is less expensive than their current plan offered by Target.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 01/21/2014 7:29:31 PM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni
This is why Big Insurance and the Globalist Corporations are behind Obamacare. It's also why the GOP won't do anything to reverse Obamacare.

They want to privatize the profits but socialize the costs.

2 posted on 01/21/2014 7:35:15 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: TurboZamboni
give each worker $500 to help buy health insurance


3 posted on 01/21/2014 7:35:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: TurboZamboni

How many believe the employees will use the $500 to purchase health insurance? I would be willing to bet most of those employees will qualify for Medicade


4 posted on 01/21/2014 7:38:50 PM PST by martinidon
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To: TurboZamboni

Wow. A whole 500 bucks. That should buy them a couple weeks worth of obamacare.


5 posted on 01/21/2014 7:39:51 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: TurboZamboni

This is the same Target that is now running its own gays in the fashion of JC Penney.

That’s going to help, right?


6 posted on 01/21/2014 7:40:40 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: martinidon
Medicade

Is that like lemonade, only yucky?

7 posted on 01/21/2014 7:41:52 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
$500 pre-tax for most part time employees will mean an extra $6,000 a year for their salaries, likely lifting them above the federal poverty level for their household, erasing quite a few of their benefits, and likely quashing the earned income tax credit. They'll lose about a hundred dollars of that five hundred in taxes, and thus have $400 cash to spend on health care.

Their ‘ObamaCare’ subsidized coverage will likely look really cheap compared to that $400, and in fact, many will end up pocketing $150 - $250 depending upon their household income. And then at the end of the year, they'll suddenly find that they owe thousands as they figured their insurance at their old income level, not the new income level with the $500 monthly bonus.

In the end, what happens is that Target pushes part of the rising cost of health care onto the taxpayer, can point towards their new ‘living wage’ for part time employees to quash the union organizers, and the part time employees will end up with even less money in their pockets at the end of the year.

Oh, and of course, a running theme with ObamaCare - more people who had insurance have it yanked out from under them due to the ‘Affordable Care Act’, which simultaneously raises costs for those same employees while giving less benefits. Or in the eyes of a liberal, a success story.

8 posted on 01/21/2014 7:43:39 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: GeronL

They have a gay ‘wedding’ registry...I’ve seen the ads.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=targe+gay+ad&FORM=HDRSC2


9 posted on 01/21/2014 7:44:31 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: lowbridge
Wow. A whole 500 bucks. That should buy them a couple weeks worth of obamacare.

I assume that's $500 per month.

10 posted on 01/21/2014 7:48:06 PM PST by Maceman
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To: kingu
Oh, you think the $500 is a monthly supplement for the part-time workers? So it's a $6000 annual raise?

I assumed it was a one-time "Here's $500, go have fun" kind of deal.

11 posted on 01/21/2014 7:48:11 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: kingu
$500 pre-tax for most part time employees will mean an extra $6,000 a year for their salaries

I think it said $500. not $500. per month.

12 posted on 01/21/2014 7:49:14 PM PST by zeebee (There are no coincidences.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“unexpected”


13 posted on 01/21/2014 7:49:35 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni

Another good place to boycott, let them cater to the 1%


14 posted on 01/21/2014 7:50:14 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I figured it was a one-time thing, maybe annual, but definitely not a raise of 4 to 6 dollars per hour.


15 posted on 01/21/2014 7:51:31 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: kingu

It’s a flat, once a year payment of $500 per year. Furthermore, if it’s being used for medical expenses, chances are that, it’s tax-exempt.


16 posted on 01/21/2014 7:52:01 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: Maceman

None of my subsidized employees is anywhere near $500 a month. Most are half that or less.

I don’t qualify for a subsidy, and I am still well below $500 a month.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 7:53:51 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; martinidon
Medicade

Is that like lemonade, only yucky?

Don't you get the feeling, ROCKLOBSTER, that some of these corrections go right past the recipient? I have reference also to the person the other day who wrote "payed" instead of "paid."

18 posted on 01/21/2014 7:54:22 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Yes—sur reee! Insurance is already covered by the Obamacare law so there’s little skin off their noses. The GOP is at best neutral, must be one heck of a gun in their necks to “drift” as they do. ..not to mention what they line their pockets with.

No matter how I play the affairs of this nation over in my mind it still comes out we’ve been had....by an Inclusive Washington.


19 posted on 01/21/2014 7:58:09 PM PST by caww
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To: TurboZamboni

Never saw this coming. This will certainly limit government.


20 posted on 01/21/2014 8:01:22 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: OldPossum

Obamacare, Ending Health Insurance for Families As We Know It

Obamacare, the policy enacted by the party that keeps loudly bragging about standing for the “middle class” and “working families”, is spurring companies to ditch health insurance coverage of their employees working spouses.

But wait, there’s more; companies that aren’t making that move are making employees pay more to cover their spouses, and making employees pay the full cost for their children’s health insurance.

Recall this detail the next time some cheerful liberal emphasizes that Obamacare requires insurers to cover children’s health care: “Although the law requires plans to cover children, it allows companies to pass along the full cost of so-called dependent coverage to the employee, James McTiernan, health care consultant with Triad Gallagher said.”

So Obamacare is effectively ending health insurance for families as we know it. Way to go!
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/356271/obamacare-ending-health-insurance-families-we-know-it-jim-geraghty


21 posted on 01/21/2014 8:01:54 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni

another peeve about Target...in the state of Hawaii Target is no longer providing shopping bags.

The law does not allow stores to provide plastic bags as of Jan 17. Target has gone a step further...they don’t time provide even paper bags anymore. Time to boycott.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 8:04:45 PM PST by what's up
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To: TurboZamboni
Just one little problem with that scenario....

Employees are not eligible for the exchange tax subsidies if they are offered insurance by their employer, but refuse it...

So Target thinks they can have their cake and eat it too?

That exemption they have for their executives healthcare insurance plans expires next year.
Do they really think this administration will keep exempting them from Obamacare forever?

Did none of their own lawyers tell them that a mere stroke of the pen will make their tiered benefits for part-time workers illegal?

Tricked again! Idiots.

23 posted on 01/21/2014 8:24:46 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: OldPossum

no, most of the recipients just ignore you!


24 posted on 01/21/2014 8:25:29 PM PST by martinidon
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To: sarasmom
That exemption they have for their executives healthcare insurance plans expires next year. Do they really think this administration will keep exempting them from Obamacare forever?

Target is a very Democrat-friendly corporation. It was originally founded as a unit of Dayton's Department Stores and the Dayton family remains active in the management. One-time Senator and now Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton is the scion of the family.

They are "connected" and well-positioned to operate in an environment of corporate cronyism.

25 posted on 01/21/2014 8:45:18 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: TurboZamboni

Well it’s Target so there won’t be a lot of vitriol from the left, can you imagine if this was done by Walmart.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 8:48:19 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: TurboZamboni
According to Betsy McCaughey, the IRS has said the corporations are off the hook for family coverage at all.
27 posted on 01/21/2014 8:50:27 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: zeebee

Another article said:

“The company will provide a $500 cash payment to employees losing coverage, as well as access to a benefits consultant.”

Not only does this NOT sound like per month, but not even per year: just a one time CASH payment.

There’s no way Target is going to GIVE ALL of it’s part-time employee’s $6,000/year. They’d go broke doing that.


28 posted on 01/21/2014 9:30:19 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TurboZamboni

If only we had a government program that forced employers to provide health insurance to all employees. Or even better. A single payer government health insurance program. That’d be just great.


29 posted on 01/21/2014 9:33:31 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: catnipman

Having looked at ObamaCare programs, I eronously assumed the $500 a month, but yes, you’re right, it looks like a one time payment ONLY for those ALREADY enrolled in health care programs at Target who are part time employees.

And since Target says that participation by part time employees in the employer program is less than 10 percent, they’re not going to be cutting very many of those $500 checks. Figure the lowest priced ObamaCare plans are in the neighborhood of $300-$350 for their average age employees, the taxpayers will be on the hook for a lot of those dollars as well.


30 posted on 01/21/2014 10:22:45 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: what's up
The law does not allow stores to provide plastic bags as of Jan 17. Target has gone a step further...they don’t time provide even paper bags anymore. Time to boycott.

Go shop at the store, get to the checkout, have them do the checkout, and when they refuse to bag it, demand an immediate refund. The policy will change in a very short time, and much much more effective than boycotting, as managers see instantly what the company policy is costing them in manhours to restock shelves from abandoned purchases when they won't pony up a little bag.

Get enough doing it, the policy gets changed. I do this whenever I go to the Republic of Pasadena. Someone will tell me that the law says something, and I say - don't care, you want my business, you'll bag those purchases, or you can get a manager over to do the refund right now. Yes, it is a jackass thing to do, but they let this law go into effect, they didn't fight it, and they can deal with the fallout. Total number of times a store has actually refunded my purchase? Zero. Every time, they magically find bags to put my purchase in and away I go. And it never fails that someone behind me pulls the same thing.

31 posted on 01/21/2014 10:28:14 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: catnipman
From Target's website:
"Target will provide U.S. stores’ part-time team members who are currently enrolled in Target’s health coverage and who are losing access to that coverage a $500 cash payment."

It also says,
"Today, less than 10 percent of our total team member population participates in our part-time plan."

So Target will do OK with this deal.

32 posted on 01/21/2014 10:39:37 PM PST by zeebee (There are no coincidences.)
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To: zeebee

Obama and the democrats are dicks I hate them.
Sorry for the bad language I just can’t help it they get me so angry. Since Obama has been in office my standard of living is less than stellar. My husband was laid off in November and along with his check went our insurance I guess we will get penalized now. Thanks Obama you jerk.


33 posted on 01/21/2014 11:31:14 PM PST by funfan
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To: martinidon
no, most of the recipients just ignore you!

You didn't.

BTW, it's spelled "Medicaid." Also, in proper English we capitalize the first word in a sentence.

34 posted on 01/22/2014 3:59:28 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: TurboZamboni
give each worker $500 to help buy health insurance

That should make a dent in the $12,000 deductible they will be paying.

Or not.

35 posted on 01/22/2014 4:32:11 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Mastador1

Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than Obamacare
http://washingtonexaminer.com/surprise-walmart-health-plan-is-cheaper-offers-more-coverage-than-obamacare/article/2541670

But...Will Walmart Health Insurance cover your sex change operation?

If you like your parts, you can keep them.


36 posted on 01/22/2014 5:01:18 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni

“because new online health exchanges offer workers an opportunity to buy coverage.”

Brilliant spin; whoever came up with that phrase gets a bonus! Target doesn’t want to deprive them of the benefits of the Affordable Care Act...

Priceless!


37 posted on 01/22/2014 5:44:53 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kingu
Every time, they magically find bags

We'll try that.

Someone will tell me that the law says something

Thing is...the law in HI does not outlaw paper bags, only plastic. Yet Target is not supplying paper bags either.

The checkout girl tried to tell me that paper was outlawed also. It's a lie. Every other store in town is supplying paper.

38 posted on 01/22/2014 8:43:21 AM PST by what's up
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To: kearnyirish2

if you like your opportunity you can keep it.


39 posted on 01/22/2014 9:47:25 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: GeronL

Target lays off 475 workers, won’t fill 700 open positions
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2014/01/target_lays_off_475_workers_wont_fill_700_open_positions.php

helped a lot !


40 posted on 01/22/2014 11:42:37 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: OldPossum

Well I did not know this forum required the use of proper English. I would guess using the acronym BTW is not proper English, but just like the acronym FU, we all know what it means. ;)


41 posted on 01/22/2014 11:43:20 AM PST by martinidon
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To: OldPossum

Well I did not know this forum required the use of proper English. I would guess using the acronym BTW is not proper English, but just like the acronym FU, we all know what it means. ;)


42 posted on 01/22/2014 11:47:24 AM PST by martinidon
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To: TurboZamboni

oh, which Democrat MN Senator turned Democrat MN Governor is a “Target” family heir? Would that be Sen/Gov Mark Dayton (D-MN)?


43 posted on 01/22/2014 11:47:25 AM PST by EDINVA ( m)
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To: TurboZamboni

“if you like your opportunity you can keep it.”

LOL! The wording from target is great, putting such a positive spin on such a horrible event (the loss of insurance). As the Axis retreated from the Soviet Union, they would refer to it as “strategic shortening of lines”...


44 posted on 01/23/2014 3:46:35 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: TurboZamboni
Well, duh!

That aspect of “insurance” has been devolving for years!
Companies WILL ditch even offering their employees the option of spouse/family coverage.

Government employees will still be offered the family option.
I'm not certain when or even if, it ever kicks in, that government employees will have to live under the same government mandated requirements/plans that NGEs(non-government employees) are going to be forced to deal with...after the next elections.

45 posted on 01/23/2014 5:04:06 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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