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Erik Prince: Out of Blackwater and Into China
WSJ ^ | Jan. 24, 2014 | David Feith

Posted on 01/24/2014 10:34:46 PM PST by LeoWindhorse

Erik Prince —ex-Navy SEAL, ex-CIA spy, ex-CEO of private-security firm Blackwater —calls himself an "accidental tourist" whose modest business boomed after 9/11, expanded into Iraq and Afghanistan, and then was "blowtorched by politics." To critics and conspiracy theorists, he is a mercenary war-profiteer. To admirers, he's a patriot who has repeatedly answered America's call with bravery and creativity.

Now, sitting in a boardroom above Hong Kong's Victoria Harbour, he explains his newest title, acquired this month: chairman of Frontier Services Group, an Africa-focused security and logistics company with intimate ties to China's largest state-owned conglomerate, Citic Group. Beijing has titanic ambitions to tap Africa's resources—including $1 trillion in planned spending on roads, railways and airports by 2025—and Mr. Prince wants in.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2014; africa; airports; blackwater; china; citic; citicgroup; erikprince; frontierservices; fsg; hongkong; prince; railways; xe
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Is he hiring ?
1 posted on 01/24/2014 10:34:46 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Chinese bosses? ROE to die for...!

” Only shoot if you have ammo and don’t like the guy much...”


2 posted on 01/24/2014 10:38:18 PM PST by gaijin
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To: LeoWindhorse

Iraq should have hired him. He would know how to organize and implement an effective response to al Qaeda. China is smart to use his expertise.


3 posted on 01/24/2014 10:39:00 PM PST by allendale
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To: allendale

And he is an immoral traitor to do this.


4 posted on 01/24/2014 11:01:49 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

after State threw him under the bus the way they did ? And then DoJ came after him ? Who exactly is the traitor? I would say it is that mob of people that think they hold power in DC these days . The whole lot of them .


5 posted on 01/24/2014 11:04:09 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

I have no idea who this guy is but to go and work directly for the Chinese Communist Party supplying military security is beyond anything other Thames amorality and disregard for his own country.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 11:06:32 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Bullcrap


7 posted on 01/24/2014 11:07:50 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Great riposte.

To do business with Chinese concerns is one thing.

This is beyond that and like Clinton allowing MIRV tech to be sold to them.

You can try to rationalize amorality and treason all you want, but it isn’t going to defeat the facts and the truth.

Let him become a Chinese citizen if he is to do this.


8 posted on 01/24/2014 11:10:57 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

How is he a traitor to be hired by China to work in Africa? By that measure, half the big logistics companies in the world are “traitors”, as they all do work for other governments.

If he were working with China explicitly against the US, I might be more likely to agree with you, but the US (stupidly, IMHO) has no significant interests in Africa.

To borrow a quote from a fairly popular movie from years ago, this might well sum up Prince’s position: “Look, I ain’t in this for your revolution...I expect to be well paid. I’m in it for the money. “


9 posted on 01/24/2014 11:11:15 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: ifinnegan

you should check out who he is , what he did and has done and how he /they were treated .
It’s an indictment about how far f-ed up the official U.S. Gov has become . They don’t back up their own people anymore .
Can anyone say Benghazi ? Over & over again , it’s the same story . Why our soldiers and ex-soldiers put up with it I do not know . They should not . It’s time for change .


10 posted on 01/24/2014 11:12:00 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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So being treated badly is a reason for treason?

There is a rubicon.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 11:13:55 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

is Ed Snowden a traitor ?


12 posted on 01/24/2014 11:14:36 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

“if this be treason , let us make the most of it “

Patrick Henry


13 posted on 01/24/2014 11:15:15 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: ifinnegan

He’s not providing military services. He’s doing logistics and private security. He has a lot of experience doing this kind of work in unstable political situations, something the Chinese don’t have yet.

And again, he’s not acting against the US; a traitor is someone who deliberately sides with an enemy during wartime against his own country. This isn’t war (at least not yet), and he’s not fighting against the US or betraying it in any way.

Now, ethics on the other hand are possibly questionable, and had you made your claim on his position being *unethical*, you might have gotten more support. Basing your position on “treason” is hyperbole, and unsupportable in an argument based on facts.


14 posted on 01/24/2014 11:15:41 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig

It is the work he does.

There are certain things and know how’s that are not to be given to communist dictatorships.


15 posted on 01/24/2014 11:16:48 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Little Pig

Yeah.

It proves the critics true when they say, “he is a mercenary war-profiteer”.

As you said:

To borrow a quote from a fairly popular movie from years ago, this might well sum up Prince’s position: “Look, I ain’t in this for your revolution...I expect to be well paid. I’m in it for the money. “

He sure ain’t a patriot.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 11:19:30 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Just to be clear, here is the wording of the treason clause:

“The betrayal of one’s own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.”

Publicly, China is not an “enemy” of the US in any formal sense, so what he’s doing is not “treason”. Don’t throw terms around arbitrarily. Words have to have meanings; otherwise you get circumstances that allow things like the libs muddying up the meaning of the 2nd Amendment (for example).


17 posted on 01/24/2014 11:19:48 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Yes.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 11:20:12 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Little Pig

If the US has no significant interests in Africa, then that is stupid of us.


19 posted on 01/24/2014 11:20:19 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: ifinnegan

It’s not treasonous to be unpatriotic (or non-patriotic).


20 posted on 01/24/2014 11:21:01 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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