[Vendome]

I don’t give a FK about immigrants.

Bring em.

Bring em all.

But, they must be subject to the same laws everyone else is held to.

I wouldn’t care about the 30 million people here if they were under the same laws.

[GeronL]

They should be under the same laws. Reading about courts letting illegals off the hook from “cultural misunderstandings” tells me we need to cut off the benefits of breaking and entering this country

[DoughtyOne]

Please remember that we now spend at least half a trillion dollars a year on welfare programs for citizens. (And I’ll bet a lot more than that is spent on hidden programs)

Do you really want to bump that up by 30-40 million in one fell swoop, and then bump it up by 2 million more each year as the immigration flood doors are opened?

I suggest a thirty year moratorium is in order.

[OneWingedShark]

But, they must be subject to the same laws everyone else is held to.

And here's the problem; there are essentially three or four classes of people today:

1. The elites; the guys that can keep bribe cash in their freezer and not end up w/ more than a smack on the wrist.
2. The enforcers, the police and bureaucracies: most laws don't apply to them.
3. The average citizen; whether or not the laws apply to them is a function of their relationship[s] with the two prior groups.
4. Ex-Felons; these people are much like citizens but held under a set of restricted rights (despite having served their sentence).
5. Illegal aliens; they share commonalities/properties of the two previous groups.

Given the government desire to control, they want to move everyone into category 4 so that nobody has rights but rather license from the government.
This is what is insidious about the proliferation of felony laws: they have the potential to move large chunks of otherwise law-abiding people into cat 4.
Imagine if they changed the law so that failure to have obamacare was a felony, and they changed the rules so that no existing insurance policy qualified? Instant technical felony for everybody — and they could, with a smile on their faces, blame it on paperwork "all you have to do is come in and sign some forms" (which are confessions of guilt and waivers of the right to jury trial).