Skip to comments.D'Souza vs. Ayers at Dartmouth (7:30 PM, Thu 1/30, tonight!)
Posted on 01/30/2014 3:50:18 PM PST by Seizethecarp
click here to read article
Okay. I just saw him looking at his notes....once.
He fears we are losing our American dream and that it is going to other people. Why? We have taught them the secret of wealth creation. We previously tried the Bill Ayers formula (doing things for them).
It’s tough to keep track, but is D Souza still in good standing at all around here? On some forums, like Jihadwatch.org and related sites, he is considered as much a cultural opponent as leftists. Is that the case here? it is just hard to keep track.
DS: American dream is being shrunken and is going to other people. The US has taught others the secret of wealth creation, not the Bill Ayers formula.
Just tried it but it’s buffering bad.
Global technological capitalism has been the greatest poverty eliminator in history, not Jane Adams-style social agitation advocated by Ayers.
“Ericksonian hypnosis” will get you some good results, too. NLP tried to co-opt his work.
While watching why don’t you answer that question yourself? I have never seen him, read him, watch his movie, and I like what he is saying.
Now DS is plugging his new movie: What would the world be like if America never existed?
“trade with us and don’t bomb us”. LOL I like it.
The audience seems well behaved, so far...
My point was I could only speak for myself even after watching D Souza, not for the majority on FR. I know that some conservative places consider him no better than the hard leftists in terms of destroying American values, Jihadwatch and related sites are examples. I was wondering if this site is one of them.
And D’Souza finishes RIGHT on time.
Can’t do it. Cannot listen to Ayers. Want to punch him in the face.
DS: The US followed self-interest in fighting wars but the world is a much better place. Wealth creation instead of conquest is the fundamental American virtue. Russia and China would be using both conquest and wealth creation if they had as much power as the US.
America gets out after a war, but others wouldn’t
Where does the Bible say that Women can’t vote???
Ayers “rebuts” that America was stolen from the Indians..
Starting Ayers’ response.
BTW, he’s wearing hoop earrings. Like a pirate.
Ayers - I think we need to see things as “contradictory.” (How Marxist of him.) We need to fire our imaginations to envision a world that could be, or should be.
Lauding citizen activists - Snowden et al. Abolitionists and feminists. Are you all against slavery? (Query to audience to get them to respond back. And doing it for feminism, too.)
Can’t this a**hat think for himself and generate an original thought? Why must Ayers constantly reference other people, especially those from Chicago? Hell, I’m waiting for him to bring up Al Capone.
[ Ayers rebuts that America was stolen from the Indians.. ]
Why does no one ask Spain and Portugal and france for reparations?
BA: “Chelsea” Manning and (Russian operative) Snowden are what is great about America...
It does not, and that is why I have always thought that the gang of Freepers who think following Proverbs means women shouldn’t vote should simply keep silent and stop being obscene and stop furthering the stereotype of conservatives as anti woman.
But that does not really relate to my inquiries about what the general consensus is on FR regarding whether or not D Souza is helpful to defending Americna liberty.
Awesome rebut comparing the Black Plauge to diseases from Europe...
For that matter I’m surprised he didn’t bring up Mumia Abu Jamal, but then it might give him an embarrassingly conspicuous “rise in his Levis”.
Notice how Ayers had to appeal to the audience to get an applause? Instead of the people cheering for him naturally? Very interesting.
Ayers says “ Fundamental Transformation”
It is like he is telegraphic he wrote Obama’s book...
Dinesh telling Ayers he (BA) started out in the bin Laden mode.. Is BA still a revolutionary? Trying to fight for more peace, more justice, more BALANCE, etc., so,yes.
We should be fighting white supremacy today. Playing race cards.
Check the banner behind the speakers: Young America’s Foundation. Hardly commies, tho I am sure a counterpart campus organiation was invited to attend. Nonetheless, the debate was sponsored by YAF and a libertarian group.
DS rebuts Ayers on Indians by pointing out that 90% of Indians died from disease which effectively emptied the continent.
DS rebuts Ayers claim that radicals (like him) freed slaves by pointing out that 300,000 union soldiers died to free the slaves.
Wasn't Dinesh an Indian?
BA says the struggle against “white supremacy” still goes on (in the US)...too many minorities locked up...
DD says the “lock-em-up” mentality is getting out of hand!
DD: Indian PM says the legacy of empire allowed India to take advantage of global capitalism...so colonialism for better or worse was the transmission belt that led to success.
Ayers is against permanent war economy of the US empire (old KGB training)
Sorry Bill, Iraq is where they are now because your butt buddy Zero let them go!
DD: The government runs all kinks of rackets in private industry and in social welfare agencies.
Now they are re-litigating whether Saddam had WMD...
If Ayers is so much against “Big Empire”....
Why doesn’t he embrace Limited Government?
First rule of debating with these people is it should never be assumed that they will discuss issues in good faith. NEVER accept a premise set forth by a leftist. Never.
DD: We did not go to those countries to steal their stuff
Tet vet asking question to BA - marched with Abbie Hoffman later. BA took armed stance against US government. How do you (BA) feel about right to bear arms? 2A
BA - we need to take back extreme gun ownership. We should disarm, have serious background checks and on what people are sold. It’s folly and leading us in a dangerous direction. (Ironic from this person, isn’t it?)
BA falls back on the Halliburton smear...
Yes, he did falter there, and BA pounced on it immediately.
Now audience questions...
Now it’s lesbian gay question time. Evidently Dinesh wasn’t viewed by that community favorably in his tenure at Dartmouth Review. They are questioning him on this.
Dinesh says Mother Jones rewrote history on this.
“Will he now give a full-throated endorsement of queer rights?” They think he’s homophobic.
Ayers is such a tool.
Asking DD for a full throated endorsement of queer rights.
Queer? Isn’t that “insulting”, to the homosexuals?
This is what happens when you react to leftist premises.
Why does BA get away with constantly interrupting DD? He’s such a bully...
Dinesh affirms right of the individual.
Now he’s asking at Ayers if he would affirm evangelical Christian groups. (big response from Dartmouth audience.)
Ayers is obsessed with homosexuality, Ayer’s brought it up at the dinner Breitbart attended at his house.
It turns out that “queer” is a self-identification, not an insult, for some persons. Sometimes you will see LGBTQ where the Q is for “queer.”
I’m not sure what “queer” is exactly and I would rather not find out!