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D'Souza vs. Ayers at Dartmouth (7:30 PM, Thu 1/30, tonight!)
dineshdsouza.com ^ | January 30, 2014 | Dinesh D'Souza

Posted on 01/30/2014 3:50:18 PM PST by Seizethecarp

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Okay. I just saw him looking at his notes....once.


101 posted on 01/30/2014 5:09:55 PM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: locountry1dr

He fears we are losing our American dream and that it is going to other people. Why? We have taught them the secret of wealth creation. We previously tried the Bill Ayers formula (doing things for them).


102 posted on 01/30/2014 5:10:31 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: Seizethecarp

It’s tough to keep track, but is D Souza still in good standing at all around here? On some forums, like Jihadwatch.org and related sites, he is considered as much a cultural opponent as leftists. Is that the case here? it is just hard to keep track.


103 posted on 01/30/2014 5:10:49 PM PST by freedom462
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To: Seizethecarp

DS: American dream is being shrunken and is going to other people. The US has taught others the secret of wealth creation, not the Bill Ayers formula.


104 posted on 01/30/2014 5:11:07 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: hoosiermama
Please educate us all and post a bread on the subject Ping me to it

IXQUICK.com

Type: "NLP"

105 posted on 01/30/2014 5:11:50 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Bronzy

Just tried it but it’s buffering bad.


106 posted on 01/30/2014 5:12:52 PM PST by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: Seizethecarp

Global technological capitalism has been the greatest poverty eliminator in history, not Jane Adams-style social agitation advocated by Ayers.


107 posted on 01/30/2014 5:13:05 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Ericksonian hypnosis” will get you some good results, too. NLP tried to co-opt his work.


108 posted on 01/30/2014 5:13:14 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: freedom462

While watching why don’t you answer that question yourself? I have never seen him, read him, watch his movie, and I like what he is saying.


109 posted on 01/30/2014 5:13:30 PM PST by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: Seizethecarp

Now DS is plugging his new movie: What would the world be like if America never existed?


110 posted on 01/30/2014 5:14:45 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“trade with us and don’t bomb us”. LOL I like it.


111 posted on 01/30/2014 5:15:10 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Seizethecarp

The audience seems well behaved, so far...


112 posted on 01/30/2014 5:15:34 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: RedWing9

My point was I could only speak for myself even after watching D Souza, not for the majority on FR. I know that some conservative places consider him no better than the hard leftists in terms of destroying American values, Jihadwatch and related sites are examples. I was wondering if this site is one of them.


113 posted on 01/30/2014 5:15:48 PM PST by freedom462
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And D’Souza finishes RIGHT on time.


114 posted on 01/30/2014 5:15:54 PM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: Seizethecarp

Can’t do it. Cannot listen to Ayers. Want to punch him in the face.


115 posted on 01/30/2014 5:17:08 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Seizethecarp

DS: The US followed self-interest in fighting wars but the world is a much better place. Wealth creation instead of conquest is the fundamental American virtue. Russia and China would be using both conquest and wealth creation if they had as much power as the US.

America gets out after a war, but others wouldn’t


116 posted on 01/30/2014 5:17:29 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: freedom462

Where does the Bible say that Women can’t vote???


117 posted on 01/30/2014 5:18:51 PM PST by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: Seizethecarp

Ayers “rebuts” that America was stolen from the Indians..


118 posted on 01/30/2014 5:19:13 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: RedWing9

Starting Ayers’ response.
BTW, he’s wearing hoop earrings. Like a pirate.

Ayers - I think we need to see things as “contradictory.” (How Marxist of him.) We need to fire our imaginations to envision a world that could be, or should be.

Lauding citizen activists - Snowden et al. Abolitionists and feminists. Are you all against slavery? (Query to audience to get them to respond back. And doing it for feminism, too.)


119 posted on 01/30/2014 5:19:53 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: Seizethecarp

Can’t this a**hat think for himself and generate an original thought? Why must Ayers constantly reference other people, especially those from Chicago? Hell, I’m waiting for him to bring up Al Capone.


120 posted on 01/30/2014 5:20:01 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Seizethecarp

[ Ayers “rebuts” that America was stolen from the Indians.. ]

Why does no one ask Spain and Portugal and france for reparations?


121 posted on 01/30/2014 5:20:09 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Seizethecarp

BA: “Chelsea” Manning and (Russian operative) Snowden are what is great about America...


122 posted on 01/30/2014 5:21:02 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: RedWing9

It does not, and that is why I have always thought that the gang of Freepers who think following Proverbs means women shouldn’t vote should simply keep silent and stop being obscene and stop furthering the stereotype of conservatives as anti woman.

But that does not really relate to my inquiries about what the general consensus is on FR regarding whether or not D Souza is helpful to defending Americna liberty.


123 posted on 01/30/2014 5:21:59 PM PST by freedom462
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To: Seizethecarp

Awesome rebut comparing the Black Plauge to diseases from Europe...


124 posted on 01/30/2014 5:22:08 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Impala64ssa

For that matter I’m surprised he didn’t bring up Mumia Abu Jamal, but then it might give him an embarrassingly conspicuous “rise in his Levis”.


125 posted on 01/30/2014 5:22:20 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: GraceG

Notice how Ayers had to appeal to the audience to get an applause? Instead of the people cheering for him naturally? Very interesting.


126 posted on 01/30/2014 5:24:58 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Ayers says “ Fundamental Transformation”

LOL

It is like he is telegraphic he wrote Obama’s book...


127 posted on 01/30/2014 5:26:15 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Impala64ssa

Dinesh telling Ayers he (BA) started out in the bin Laden mode.. Is BA still a revolutionary? Trying to fight for more peace, more justice, more BALANCE, etc., so,yes.

We should be fighting white supremacy today. Playing race cards.


128 posted on 01/30/2014 5:28:06 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: johnsmom

Check the banner behind the speakers: Young America’s Foundation. Hardly commies, tho I am sure a counterpart campus organiation was invited to attend. Nonetheless, the debate was sponsored by YAF and a libertarian group.


129 posted on 01/30/2014 5:28:07 PM PST by EDINVA ( m)
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To: Seizethecarp

DS rebuts Ayers on Indians by pointing out that 90% of Indians died from disease which effectively emptied the continent.

DS rebuts Ayers claim that radicals (like him) freed slaves by pointing out that 300,000 union soldiers died to free the slaves.


130 posted on 01/30/2014 5:28:24 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
Ayers “rebuts” that America was stolen from the Indians..

Wasn't Dinesh an Indian?

131 posted on 01/30/2014 5:28:46 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Seizethecarp

BA says the struggle against “white supremacy” still goes on (in the US)...too many minorities locked up...

DD says the “lock-em-up” mentality is getting out of hand!


132 posted on 01/30/2014 5:31:30 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

DD: Indian PM says the legacy of empire allowed India to take advantage of global capitalism...so colonialism for better or worse was the transmission belt that led to success.


133 posted on 01/30/2014 5:33:31 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Ayers is against permanent war economy of the US empire (old KGB training)


134 posted on 01/30/2014 5:36:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: freedom462

Sorry Bill, Iraq is where they are now because your butt buddy Zero let them go!


135 posted on 01/30/2014 5:38:06 PM PST by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: Seizethecarp

DD: The government runs all kinks of rackets in private industry and in social welfare agencies.

Now they are re-litigating whether Saddam had WMD...


136 posted on 01/30/2014 5:38:20 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

If Ayers is so much against “Big Empire”....

Why doesn’t he embrace Limited Government?

Liberal Loonacy...


137 posted on 01/30/2014 5:38:23 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Seizethecarp
De Souza is falling into the trap of reacting to leftwing blather.

First rule of debating with these people is it should never be assumed that they will discuss issues in good faith. NEVER accept a premise set forth by a leftist. Never.

138 posted on 01/30/2014 5:38:27 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Seizethecarp

DD: We did not go to those countries to steal their stuff


139 posted on 01/30/2014 5:39:35 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Tet vet asking question to BA - marched with Abbie Hoffman later. BA took armed stance against US government. How do you (BA) feel about right to bear arms? 2A

BA - we need to take back extreme gun ownership. We should disarm, have serious background checks and on what people are sold. It’s folly and leading us in a dangerous direction. (Ironic from this person, isn’t it?)


140 posted on 01/30/2014 5:40:10 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: Seizethecarp

BA falls back on the Halliburton smear...


141 posted on 01/30/2014 5:40:30 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: skeeter

Yes, he did falter there, and BA pounced on it immediately.


142 posted on 01/30/2014 5:41:13 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: Seizethecarp

Now audience questions...


143 posted on 01/30/2014 5:41:37 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: locountry1dr

Now it’s lesbian gay question time. Evidently Dinesh wasn’t viewed by that community favorably in his tenure at Dartmouth Review. They are questioning him on this.
Dinesh says Mother Jones rewrote history on this.
“Will he now give a full-throated endorsement of queer rights?” They think he’s homophobic.
Baiting him.


144 posted on 01/30/2014 5:44:36 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: Seizethecarp

Ayers is such a tool.

Asking DD for a full throated endorsement of queer rights.

Queer? Isn’t that “insulting”, to the homosexuals?


145 posted on 01/30/2014 5:44:55 PM PST by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: locountry1dr

This is what happens when you react to leftist premises.


146 posted on 01/30/2014 5:45:03 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Why does BA get away with constantly interrupting DD? He’s such a bully...


147 posted on 01/30/2014 5:46:39 PM PST by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: locountry1dr

Dinesh affirms right of the individual.

Now he’s asking at Ayers if he would affirm evangelical Christian groups. (big response from Dartmouth audience.)


148 posted on 01/30/2014 5:47:13 PM PST by locountry1dr
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To: locountry1dr

Ayers is obsessed with homosexuality, Ayer’s brought it up at the dinner Breitbart attended at his house.


149 posted on 01/30/2014 5:47:25 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Lucky9teen

It turns out that “queer” is a self-identification, not an insult, for some persons. Sometimes you will see LGBTQ where the Q is for “queer.”

I’m not sure what “queer” is exactly and I would rather not find out!


150 posted on 01/30/2014 5:47:44 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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