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Antioxidants including vitamin E can promote lung cancer: study
Reuters ^ | Jan. 29, 2014 | Sharon Begley

Posted on 01/30/2014 9:48:59 PM PST by Tired of Taxes

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To: Jonty30

yes


21 posted on 01/30/2014 10:27:11 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Tired of Taxes

For tomorrow.


22 posted on 01/30/2014 10:27:46 PM PST by matthew fuller (Our enemy list- http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2004/anti-gun-lobbying-organizations..)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Again, man inserts something besides normal daily nutrition on the advice that he “needs” more of it and the body responds by letting down its own natural guardians designed to afford the same “protection” as the food additive.

I bet that is true about a lot of food supplements. If it’s swimming abundently in the blood stream the body’s natural mechanisms for producing the same thing are probably triggered to make less, and there is more than likely some difference that science does not understand, in human metabolism, between the man made version, or that that is produced by normal nutrition and the natural processes of the body.

I know my father was a long time believer in food supplements, and he died before his 65th birthday of heart disease.


23 posted on 01/30/2014 10:29:27 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

That’s a good point. In reality, no matter what we do, maybe we really cannot escape our predestined fate.


24 posted on 01/30/2014 10:35:37 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

so big pharma and other ‘experts’ will use this to go after vitamins, yet govt lets cigarettes still be sold. still subsidizes tobacco.

just pointing out two-facedness, and the agenda against supplements.

idiots.


25 posted on 01/30/2014 10:42:51 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jocon307

Everything is poisonous, nothing is poisonous, it is all a matter of dose.”

— Claude Bernard, French physiologist


26 posted on 01/30/2014 10:44:08 PM PST by RC one
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To: Wuli

some forms of e are better than others. it may be the case they used an inferior form of vitamin e. if so it was probably deliberate to get these desired results so they can continue the smear against supplements.


27 posted on 01/30/2014 10:44:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

“It is difficult to keep up with all the changing advice.”

Yeah, and if you drink too much water it will kill you!


28 posted on 01/30/2014 10:59:00 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Tired of Taxes

“That’s a good point. In reality, no matter what we do, maybe we really cannot escape our predestined fate.”

Yes, your genetics probably have more to do with your longevity that what you eat or what supplements you take. But everything in moderation and avoiding stuff like smoking can usually help you live longer. The woman who is 115, smokes stogies and drinks all day is a point off the curve.


29 posted on 01/30/2014 11:05:07 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have a chart that resulted from the most extensive study of all the known research studies on nutrition supplements.

In spite people’s own beliefs that they “feel better” sometimes, there is little evidence to support the vast majority of them as supplements.

Eat good amounts of the kinds of foods that have good stuff for you, because the artifiicial way has been studied and found to be no “supplement” for basic good nutrition.

If you want I will post it again; or a link to it. It even has links to all the studies that were analyzed and for each study links for the data from them. It was the most exhaustive report on the subect I’d ever seen.


30 posted on 01/30/2014 11:06:10 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Tired of Taxes

Notice the sensational title of the article fails to mention the problem occurs in high risk individuals like smokers. He’ll, water probably kills smokers faster too.


31 posted on 01/30/2014 11:28:50 PM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

In my dads case, in spite of the fact that his dad died of heart disease, my father had some lifestyle attributes - life long smoker - if not cigarettes then pipes, if not pipes then cigars, some unhealthy diet preferences, and years of a lot of family stress he felt (providing for a large family on not fabulous incomes and career disappointments after a twenty-year plus military career) which did not serve him well.

All of us who were his kids took note of much of that, as adults, and those that once smoked have quit and everyone tries to treat our bodies well. We even have history on my mom’s side, and with her as well, with dying from heart disease, but other than some really mild hypertension some of us have in our “old age” there has been no real heart disease among us.

So we were not “destined” to inherit our parents and grandparents heart disease. We could make some choices to improve our chances in spite of some possible adverse inherited genetic factors (what a fluid dynamics expert who later became a heart doctor once called “bad plumbing”).


32 posted on 01/30/2014 11:29:00 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Tired of Taxes

Whenever I make my pilgrimage to Ybor City pick up a bundle of cigars, on the wrapping is a warning, “this product contains chemicals known to the state of CA to cause birth defects and reproductive harm”. Sooo if I’m ever in CA I’ll remember not to light up if there’s pregnant women around.


33 posted on 01/30/2014 11:53:27 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: vette6387
Yeah, and if you drink too much water it will kill you!
DiHydrogen Monoxide can be dangerous, even fatal in some cases.
34 posted on 01/30/2014 11:58:35 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Tired of Taxes; All
Natural vs. Synthetic Vitamin E

Natural Vitamin E – Vitamin E actually refers to 8 different fat soluble compounds and it acts as an antioxidant that protects fats from oxidation. The most biologically active form is found in grains, seeds, and the oils from grains and seeds.

Synthetic Vitamin E – The synthetic dl-alpha tocopherol is created using refined oils, trimethylhydroquinone, and isophytol. It is not as easily absorbed, doesn’t stay as long in tissues, and is quickly dispelled like a toxin or unknown chemical.

35 posted on 01/31/2014 2:36:12 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: Tired of Taxes

http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/6/221/221ra15.abstract


36 posted on 01/31/2014 3:35:22 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: goodnesswins

http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/6/221/221ra15.abstract


37 posted on 01/31/2014 3:35:33 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I eat a wide variety of foods, take a multi-vitamin a few times a week and try not to get an excessive amount of sun during the summer.

Many people say I look up to 20 years younger.


38 posted on 01/31/2014 5:14:49 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Wuli; Tired of Taxes

Then , hmmm - ConsumerReports does study finding ! (ick) *unmentionables* in health supplement pills.

What I recall hearing is about curcumin/turmeric,
and the pills found to be THE WORST offenders were the ORGANIC (marked) ones. ( well, guess the roach parts could be OG ~

[ ~ has me wondering what good/harm I have been doing to myself all this time taking the things . . .
? and how can one tell ?!


39 posted on 01/31/2014 5:33:41 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: PraiseTheLord; All

I have been hearing more and more about the most disgusting things they are adding to our food AND to the feed of animals.

With NO REQUIREMENT to notify us of the additives. And still call the stuff OG.

Can we say the Gov/FDA gets bought off ~

So how can we know whether supplements are actually doing us any good ? How can any study have any basis in fact ?


40 posted on 01/31/2014 6:04:12 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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