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Mass mobs fill pews, lift prayers at NY churches
Associated Press ^ | 7 hr ago | By CAROLYN THOMPSON

Posted on 02/01/2014 11:40:35 PM PST by CorporateStepsister

"Playing off the idea of using social media to summon crowds for parties, Catholics have been attending some of the city's often sparsely attended churches."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: catholics; church; churches; churchmob; god; newyork; religion
This is so cool and heartwarming.
1 posted on 02/01/2014 11:40:35 PM PST by CorporateStepsister
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To: CorporateStepsister

This is brilliant and heartwarming, it’s one of those things that makes you slap your head and wonder why we didn’t think of this years ago.

What a fresh idea.


2 posted on 02/01/2014 11:51:29 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Brilliant idea. Let’s hope that some of the attendees will stick around and help rejuvenate these old churches. We no longer have the rule that confines us to a particular parish.


3 posted on 02/01/2014 11:57:06 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: CorporateStepsister; NYer; Salvation; narses

Mass mob ping


4 posted on 02/01/2014 11:58:14 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: CorporateStepsister

Thanks for this thread. Pretty cool stuff. Also I haven’t been attending church for awhile but I’ve just looked up a local catholic church-think I’ll go visit. My roots are catholic but most of my life been in non-denominational churches when I have attended.
I’ve had a desire to visit again the catholic church and this thread will kick-start me to do it. Danke...


5 posted on 02/02/2014 1:29:52 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: CorporateStepsister

awesome idea. Very happy about this...


6 posted on 02/02/2014 2:10:02 AM PST by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Catholic and Christian young people are finding ways to meet potential marriage partners. Skip the Internet sites that require a 50-page questionnaire and just go meet one another. Great idea. The Catholic university alumni conference has become another hopeful marriage mill; it’s in a different city every year. Young Catholic singles took over the NYC pro-life Meetup—that wasn’t so nice, but hey. Whatever.


7 posted on 02/02/2014 2:48:55 AM PST by firebrand
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To: tflabo

Welcome home!


8 posted on 02/02/2014 2:56:29 AM PST by folkquest (I plan on being cranky for the next 4 years. Hope to crack a political smile at the midterms!)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Had to send this to Hubby. The church in Batavia in which he grew up and one exit before Buffalo on the NYS Thruway, is closed. Love this idea. Hope it spreads. Love to be part of it.


9 posted on 02/02/2014 4:36:08 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: CorporateStepsister
I am not at all opposed to this idea.
However, I also cannot help but wonder if some of the churches could be “decommissioned” and re-purposed.

I have long been opposed to the tax exemption of churches, especially the exemption of county property taxes. When I drive through a small town and see five to ten churches all lined up within a four or five square block area, sometimes two or more of the same domination, I cannot help but wonder if their purpose is to serve God or maybe to serve the hierarchy of that church.

10 posted on 02/02/2014 4:37:47 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Tupelo

As a Catholic, I concur; the maintenance costs on old churches are enormous, and if there is no congregation to serve why not close it, sell the property, and use the proceeds to support other parishes/schools. Once they are no longer used as worship space, they would be subject to property taxes (which would be huge due to the size of the property/facilities).


11 posted on 02/02/2014 5:05:56 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

As a Catholic, I concur; the maintenance costs on old churches are enormous, and if there is no congregation to serve why not close it, sell the property, and use the proceeds to support other parishes/schools.

Never happen the money is kept for the Rich Vatican they could care less about the cost of the schools or maintaining them. They rely on donations to keep the schools in working order.


12 posted on 02/02/2014 5:15:16 AM PST by angcat
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To: angcat

“Never happen the money is kept for the Rich Vatican they could care less about the cost of the schools or maintaining them. They rely on donations to keep the schools in working order.”

Not true; in the NYC area dozens of schools close annually, and those that survive are often heavily subsidized by their dioceses (as parish collections can no longer cover their operating deficits). I don’t know that the Vatican sees any of this money, though I believe dioceses pay “taxes” of some sort to the Vatican. Catholic education is becoming a thing of the past here, and for empty churches the end is near as well.


13 posted on 02/02/2014 5:23:16 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
I know the Allentown Diocese does not lift a finger to maintain the schools. They also do not help with the cost of the private tuition which has gone up to almost 6k a year in my area. Many kids drop out and go back to the public schools. You would think they would provide some kind of financial help.
14 posted on 02/02/2014 5:25:35 AM PST by angcat
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To: CorporateStepsister

Love it! What a great idea! Besides, it brings members of the body of Christ universal together to worship together and encourage one another!


15 posted on 02/02/2014 5:30:53 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: angcat

May I assume they close schools every year? They do in my area (northern NJ); kind of kills the incentive to financially support your parish. When I was younger, my town had five Catholic grammar schools and a high school; a couple of years ago the last one closed (while the area is still predominantly “Catholic” in name - the “Anglo” Catholics have been replaced by Latino Catholics). At some point they may as well start closing the churches as well.


16 posted on 02/02/2014 5:34:01 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: tflabo

Welcome Home!


17 posted on 02/02/2014 5:41:27 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Get ready for a purple rage alert and thread crapping.


18 posted on 02/02/2014 5:42:55 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: kearnyirish2
The Catholic school that was in the district was closed about 8 years ago. I had to send my daughter 25 miles to the nearest one. We did have the district buses that took them and it worked out fine she did get a grade A education. Now I have a 10 year old and I can't see me affording to do the same for her especially if it goes up a grand every year. Our public schools are ruined (Hazleton) by invaders. When I moved here 20 years ago the schools were fine. Well we all know what happened.
19 posted on 02/02/2014 5:47:57 AM PST by angcat
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To: kearnyirish2

Here on Long Island, the Catholic grammar schools are having some hard times. I maintain this is due not so much to the tuition, but to the tuition ON TOP OF the outrageous property (school) taxes we have here.

And to top it off, our diocese is among those that opted to largely abandon truly Catholic education in favor of the odious Common Core Curriculum (and before that, the NYS curriculum).

That is not to say there isn’t a difference; there certainly is — notably in discipline and expected behavior. However, MANY parents choose to save money by sending their children to public elementary schools and THEN to Catholic high schools which are doing just fine here on the Island. I can think of only two that have closed in recent years: LaSalle Military Academy (they went all squishy and started to admit girls — that was the death knell), and St. Joseph’s Academy (run by the extremely squishy Sisters of St. Joseph. Now they lease it out to a Muslim school — no, I’m not joking http://www.newsday.com/long-island/catholic-campus-houses-suffolk-s-first-islamic-school-1.6159600 ).

I submit that your area may suffer from the same sort of problem, as I know NJ’s property taxes are pretty awful, too.

Regards,


20 posted on 02/02/2014 6:01:07 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: angcat

Here in NJ, many middle-class people are forced to use the public schools because of the huge property tax burdens. It isn’t the best education, but when supplemented by parental input it suffices. When property taxes near $10K annually, additional money for private school tuition simply isn’t there (and many decent-paying jobs have left the area permanently).

Without drastic, timely action NJ will have one Catholic school in each county; they are closing quickly.


21 posted on 02/02/2014 6:05:49 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: VermiciousKnid

Yes, I’d imagine the problems on LI are similar to NJ. Here, the closed schools are sometimes rented out to public school districts; the same children may even attend, but it is now a public school. Revenue for a parish in exchange for the souls of children...


22 posted on 02/02/2014 6:13:24 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: angcat

True here, too. The diocese doesn’t help with the schools or tuition. It is a shame.


23 posted on 02/02/2014 7:24:38 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: tflabo

Find a pries that you can sit down with and talk. Get your questions answered.

God bless you in your search.


24 posted on 02/02/2014 8:46:49 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I saw this yesterday and sent it to my priest. We didn’t need it yesterday on the Dedication of our new Church, but I thought he would enjoy reading it.

Our new church holds roughly (my estimate) 300-400 more people and it was packed. Loft was full, narthex had extra seating and was full, people were standing along the walls for the Dedication Mass.

God bless our new Archbishop who mixed a generous amount of catechesis and evangelization into explaining the Dedication of a New Church. It was awesome.

If any og you get the opportunity to attend the Dedication of a New Church, do it, even if you have to travel.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 8:52:04 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I saw this yesterday and sent it to my priest. We didn’t need it yesterday on the Dedication of our new Church, but I thought he would enjoy reading it.

Our new church holds roughly (my estimate) 300-400 more people and it was packed. Loft was full, narthex had extra seating and was full, people were standing along the walls for the Dedication Mass.

God bless our new Archbishop who mixed a generous amount of catechesis and evangelization into explaining the Dedication of a New Church. It was awesome.

If any of you get the opportunity to attend the Dedication of a New Church, do it, even if you have to travel.


26 posted on 02/02/2014 8:53:02 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: angcat; kearnyirish2
Good morning, angcat!

Do you get your information out of tiny illustrated newsprint publications?

Catholic church properties belong to the local Diocese, not to the "rich Vatican."

And the Vatican’s fungible assets are worth about a billion dollars, a mere drop in the bucket compared to, say, Harvard University’s $27 billion endowment.

Pencil that into your comic book, please.

27 posted on 02/02/2014 9:33:43 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Don't forget the 17 billion in art treasure. Please they have plenty of money to help out all the Pedophiles.
28 posted on 02/02/2014 11:10:43 AM PST by angcat
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To: angcat
Most of the "objects" "owned" by the Vatican are not available for sale. They are a common cultural patrimony, and to sell them off would remove them from the faithful, the "public" to whom they belong, and put them in the hands of private investors. It would be a kind of embezzlement, a violation of fiduciary trust.

Besides, to whom would one sell, say, Michelangelo’s Pieta? George Soros? So he could put it in his private collection? To whom could one sell the Sistine Chapel? The Saudis? So they could carve it to pieces and put the fragments on the world market? Or blow it up like the Bamiyan Buddhas? (Link)

Second, the great art functions not as a financial resource, but as a net drain on the Vatican's budget, as they can hardly afford even now to maintain and preserve them. You might have noticed that thirty years ago, the Sistine repair/restoration work was put in the hands of the Nippon Television Network Corporation (here's the story on the NTNC deal (Link) because the Vatican itself could not afford the sophisticated and painstaking technical process. Nippon TV undertook the restoration in exchange for exclusive photography and videotaping rights.

The story covered here on a Free Republic thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2694740/posts about how a huge library of rare manuscripts and books from ancient Eastern/Oriental Christianity is in imminent danger of falling into ruin because the Vatican can't afford to store them in the kind of temperature-and-humidity controlled, environmentally exacting conditions necessary for their preservation.

The whole thing is very briefly put in perspective here: Would Selling the Vatican End World Hunger?" (LINK)

It's kind of like saying the U.S. could end world hunger by selling the Lincoln Memorial, Mount Rushmore, the Capitol and the Smokey Mountains National Park to the Chinese. OK, other than the interesting prospect of having Mao Tse-Tung's visage added to Rushmore, do you think this would do any temporary (let alone lasting) good for the poor and hungry, or the cultural or natural heritage of the world?

29 posted on 02/02/2014 2:18:30 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: ansel12

it is isn’t it? Wonderful how so many people like to go to church, but don’t have the moxey. Now people are using social networking to meet and greet each other and now go to church, which is the perfect way to do things.


30 posted on 02/02/2014 5:09:39 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: tflabo

Your welcome, I like how people aren’t limiting themselves, they’re exploring other churches.


31 posted on 02/02/2014 5:10:10 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: firebrand

This is a great way to do it, I agree. Better than shady dating sites.


32 posted on 02/02/2014 5:10:36 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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