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FDA proposes rule to prevent food contamination during transport
Yahoo! News ^ | January 31, 2014 | Reuters

Posted on 02/02/2014 7:53:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

(Reuters) - Food transportation companies will be required to adhere to certain sanitation standards to prevent food from becoming contaminated during transit under a new rule proposed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

The rule would require shippers and carriers to properly refrigerate food, clean vehicles between loads and protect food during transportation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fda; food; health; safety

1 posted on 02/02/2014 7:53:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 02/02/2014 7:54:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We don't have nearly enough rules about this at the federal, state or local level.

/johnny

3 posted on 02/02/2014 7:55:31 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The fda is a bunch of assholes that do nothing but ruin commerce in America.


4 posted on 02/02/2014 7:56:48 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That’s what we’ve been missing — more rules!


5 posted on 02/02/2014 7:57:22 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not that we need any more rules, but this type of rule is actually precisely the sort of thing the Feds are empowered to do under the Constitution. It’s the first legitimate exercise of the Interstate Commerce clause I’ve seen in a long, long time.


6 posted on 02/02/2014 8:00:30 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There are already such - why not just enforce the ones in place..........sheesh these people drive me insane.


7 posted on 02/02/2014 8:00:47 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

paraphrasing Tolkien:

one rule to fit them all. one rule to bind them.


8 posted on 02/02/2014 8:03:08 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Interstate.

Between States.

It's not a good law if they want to apply it to intrastate commerce.

It's not needed.

It's not for food safety. And if it's applied to intrastate commerce, it's not something the Fed is empowered to do.

I, for one, will ignore it.

/johnny

9 posted on 02/02/2014 8:10:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: dadfly
Works great right up until someone flips off the rule makers and ignores them.

I'm honing that to a fine art.

/johnny

10 posted on 02/02/2014 8:11:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is this the same FDA that wants to allow the import Chinese chicken, raised in unspeakably filthy Chinese farms on contaminated and adulterated chicken feed, and processed in Chinese plants that forbid access to American inspectors and allow them to label it as MADE IN USA?

That FDA?


11 posted on 02/02/2014 8:13:58 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I can no longer take any of these Federal Agencies seriously. They are all puppets in BO’s hands to promote a twisted, alien political agenda.


12 posted on 02/02/2014 8:16:44 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: dadfly

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where Obama lies.


13 posted on 02/02/2014 8:18:24 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Busy work...

Shuffling the chairs...

Meaningless...


14 posted on 02/02/2014 8:26:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

as if food costs weren’t already going up significantly.

more gubmint jobs. you ought to thank us for making you do all this extra crap.


15 posted on 02/02/2014 8:29:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

do you rally believe they are doing this to make our lives better? really? really?....?


16 posted on 02/02/2014 8:30:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: null and void

don’t even start on imported seafood raised in the most contaminated little cesspools in india or china. and fed horrid crap.


17 posted on 02/02/2014 8:31:30 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I suppose it could facilitate interstate commerce by enabling customers to more easily trust their suppliers.


18 posted on 02/02/2014 8:33:19 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: null and void
Not to put too fine a point on it, yes, that federal agency that has failed over and over to protect the health and general welfare of the nation.

What? you don't trust them? Give 'em just one more chance. They'll put a few more thousand pages of regulation out there and do some selective enforcement.

Are we done yet with the central government experiment yet?

/johnny

19 posted on 02/02/2014 8:37:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I always get negative replies to this but,
ABOLISH THE FDA!


20 posted on 02/02/2014 8:38:56 PM PST by rey
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To: rey
I don't know where you are getting negative replies, but the function of the FDA is duplicated in every single State.

And is properly a police power function of the individual States.

Rant on, good man. I'll be setting fires to the FDA regulations, and bumping the carbon content of the atmosphere.

Lord knows we can use it on a frosty night...

/johnny

21 posted on 02/02/2014 8:42:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yeah, because bad trucks and transport are destroying our food and killing Americans all over the place....

FDA Sucks.


22 posted on 02/02/2014 8:47:27 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


23 posted on 02/02/2014 8:52:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JRandomFreeper

all we need is a few million other citizens with the same virtue. but when and where will they be found?


24 posted on 02/02/2014 8:59:33 PM PST by dadfly
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To: ZULU

sauron is as good a nickname for him as any.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 9:00:10 PM PST by dadfly
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To: dadfly
I've only got 2 kids and 5 grandkids. You guys gotta get to work. I've done my part.

I am NOT from Havana, baby.

And remember to teach 'em the government salute.

/johnny

26 posted on 02/02/2014 9:02:18 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: null and void

That benign?

OK, ok, ok. When we forgot God we forgot integrity too.


27 posted on 02/02/2014 9:14:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yet they keep wanting you to take those “green” tote bags and haul your groceries home in them....


28 posted on 02/02/2014 9:15:50 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rey

Government encroachments generally didn’t happen in vacuums, or maybe we could say they filled vacuums.

You remember the Rosa Parks story, how she actually got recruited by a communist minded group. We know the outcome of the story, though it is less heard how it managed to get that group a lot of credibility in the black community. And Barack Obama is one of the branches we see today. Now if only the “regular government” of the people had been doing the morally right thing in the first place, there never would have been room for those communists to horn in. Sometimes God raises up the “good Samaritan” to illustrate how those who should have been caring, weren’t.


29 posted on 02/02/2014 9:19:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: rey

... and when we complain about seeing things done the “Samaritan way” (remember, the Samaritans were practicing a corrupted form of Judaism) maybe we should remember that it started with a “good Samaritan” doing (as best he knew) something good that we were ignoring.


30 posted on 02/02/2014 9:35:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The cost of food has been skyrocketing for several years so what difference could some more costly regulations make?


31 posted on 02/02/2014 10:27:36 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
shippers and carriers to properly refrigerate food, clean vehicles between loads and protect food during transportation.

They already DO these. One of my sons is s long hauler and he drove several years for the biggest refrigerated truck outfit in the country.

Methinks this has more to do with making inroads into controlling trucking. Should they take over trucking, they control distribution of food. (Your local supermarkets have one day supply of food for your area.)

Depots Creed: "He who controls the food, controls the people."

32 posted on 02/02/2014 10:47:43 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My first thought is, have we had a problem crying out for this solution? I doubt it.


33 posted on 02/02/2014 11:00:38 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Not that we need any more rules, but this type of rule is actually precisely the sort of thing the Feds are empowered to do under the Constitution. It’s the first legitimate exercise of the Interstate Commerce clause I’ve seen in a long, long time.

Are you serious? LOL. If our Founders were alive they would ask, What Constitution are your citing?

Please go and study the works of Madison, Jefferson and modern writers such as Sowell and Mark Levin.

Please study and develop an understanding of the true Liberty our Founders enshrined in the United States Constitution.

The FDA, the EPA and 90% of the Federal government is wholly unconstitutional.

As a compliment to the reading those above, I suggest that you read the works of Ludwig von Mises, Milton Friedman, Hayek, Henry Hazlitt and Lysander Spooner.

The problems you worry about can be solved in a much more efficient and less costly manner by the marketplace.

Most of the problems we face today are the direct cause of Federal, State and local parasites who live to control others through force.

These parasites prevent the solutions from coming into existence.

34 posted on 02/02/2014 11:33:04 PM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: sand88

“Are you serious? LOL. If our Founders were alive they would ask, What Constitution are your citing?”

Yes, I’m serious. Not saying it’s a good rule, just that, strictly speaking, it’s Constitutional (unlike most rules/regs the FedGov promulgates), as applied to interstate shipping. The Constitution empowers the Federal government to “regulate Commerce . . . among the several States.” To the extent this rule regulates the shipping of food in interstate commerce, that fits squarely within the interstate commerce clause.


35 posted on 02/03/2014 4:18:22 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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Thank god for this new rule.

My buddy Bubba the Capitalist been transportin' chicken to Church's Fried chicken in the same truck he uses for his porta-potty bidness!

I feel much safe now and will be glad to vote for Obama again. He really cares!

36 posted on 02/03/2014 12:04:09 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (This GOP is dead. What do we do now?)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
The Constitution empowers the Federal government to “regulate Commerce . . . among the several States.” To the extent this rule regulates the shipping of food in interstate commerce, that fits squarely within the interstate commerce clause.

Our Founders would be disagree with your reasoning.[Please the writings of the father of the Commerce Clause -- James Madison. He wrote extensive how the Federal Governments role would be extremely limited]

Time does not permit a detailed discussion but I will cite one entity that shows a market solution.

Take Underwriters Laboratories. It arose out of dangerous conditions with early electrical devices. UL was funded by insurance companies as a way to "regulate" devices and assure safety -- hence less insurance claims. That was the market working. Insurance companies have a vested interest in having safe products. Consumers quickly realized the value of buying only UL approved devices.

Back to today. If the FDA didn't exist market solutions would evolve to fill the role the FDA assumes.

All shipping companies for liability reasons, need to be insured. It would be in the interest of insurance companies that the shipping companies operate in a "safe" manner. Over time companies that did not operate in a food safety way would have much higher rates or outright cancellations.

Companies that use shippers would have a vested interest in using only "quality" insured shippers -- they would know their product would be handled well.

This is a much simplified explanation. There is much research by brilliant thinkers that provide numerous examples of how market mechanisms (if allowed to come into existence) would provide superior product or service at a much cheaper price than what government does.

Most people are never exposed to Liberty solutions because they are never taught such in State dominated institutions.

It is truly sad that so many people always instinctively think "only" government can be the guarantor of this or that. The reality is quite the opposite.

Look around you -- from debasing our Currency, punishing producers, rewarding lawbreakers, destroying our health care system, to destroying our culture government at all levels is on a relentless path to control literally every aspect of our lives.

Government is not, as Milton Friedman stated, filled with Angels looking our for our good. Our Founders knew the type of person attracted to government service (let's just say they didn't assume the best would be dominant)

The reality is that throughout history governments have been the most murderous, the most destructive, institution ever created by man. I will always trust Liberty over government busy bodies. Have a good day.

37 posted on 02/03/2014 2:50:28 PM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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