[jazzlite]

...”Yep. It seems pretty obvious — except to the godless progressives”...

And, if you look at history and the downfall of nations, was it not the alliance with the progressive “artists” of the times which greatly helped to bring down those societies?

[smokingfrog]

Not that I want to live in a theocracy or anything, but I don’t want to live in a anything-goes society either.

The supposedly tolerant progressives seem to become more in-your-face and hostile to anyone that disagrees with them every day.

[Sherman Logan]

And, if you look at history and the downfall of nations, was it not the alliance with the progressive “artists” of the times which greatly helped to bring down those societies?

Could you provide some examples of nations and artists?

Thanks.

My understanding is that Western Civ since the mid-1700s has been more or less historically unique in having a consistent intellectual/artistic "anti-culture." This anti-culture or counter-culture has widened and deepened its influence, with occasional setbacks, to where it is today dominates the popular culture.

If there are other examples in history of such a phenomenon, I'd be grateful if they were pointed out.