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Is flashing headlights to warn of a speed trap protected by the First Amendment?
Kansas City Star ^ | February 4, 2014 | ROBERT PATRICK

Posted on 02/04/2014 7:17:57 AM PST by Second Amendment First

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It is not about safety, it's about revenue. Patrol cars motto's should read: "To stop and to ticket"
1 posted on 02/04/2014 7:17:57 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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“I wasn’t flashing to warn of a speed trap. I flashed my lights to warn the oncoming car to slow down—for safety’s sake.”


2 posted on 02/04/2014 7:18:55 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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I see lots of flashing light going to town. People are warning of Bighorn Sheep by the road eating the salt put down to melt the snow. Protect the sheep.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 7:21:47 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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If it’s not about the revenue, then why would the police/city care if someone flashes their lights in an effort to get others to slow down (presumably to near the speed limit), in order to avoid a ticket? They’re helping to maintain the posted speed limit on the streets.


4 posted on 02/04/2014 7:22:31 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I do it all the time in rural areas.

A slow moving farm-truck with a load of hay/straw can be a danger on the 2-lanes...especially for the TR/TR/TR that need that extra time and istance to brake safely.

Now that no-one is using CB radio anymore, headlamps are the way to signal and keep others safe.


5 posted on 02/04/2014 7:24:38 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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If the purpose of writing speeding tickets is to enhance public safety on the roads, as the police always say it is, then they should be happy to have citizens warning each other to slow down. If not then their public safety spiels are born out to be the lies that we’ve always known they are. Traffic police are revenue agents, plain and simple.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 7:24:40 AM PST by pgkdan
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“I wasn’t flashing to warn of a speed trap. I flashed my lights to warn the oncoming car to slow down—for safety’s sake.”

That's exactly what I would say.But I would add "I wasn't even aware of any speed trap".

7 posted on 02/04/2014 7:24:48 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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If flashing lights to warn of a speed trap is impermissible then CBs might as well be outlawed as well.


8 posted on 02/04/2014 7:24:52 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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. . . detaining, ticketing or arresting someone for the content of their speech is illegal.

The law allows for exceptions. Try telling flipping the bird at a cop, or telling a judge to KYA.

9 posted on 02/04/2014 7:26:05 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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If flashing lights to warn of a speed trap is impermissible then CBs might as well be outlawed as well.

Heh! I remember the CB back then being the only place one could socialize.
The young kids I work with probably have never heard of them.
10 posted on 02/04/2014 7:28:07 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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It is not about safety, it's about revenue. Patrol cars motto's should read: “To stop and to ticket”.

How bout “To stop and ticket and kill your dog”

11 posted on 02/04/2014 7:28:39 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Is flashing headlights to warn of a speed trap protected by the First Amendment?

It's definitely legal in Florida.

12 posted on 02/04/2014 7:28:45 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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I flash my headlights all the time to tell people they have one or both headlights out. I have no idea if there is a speed trap around. Are they not reading my intent if I flash my headlights at a particular time that I am near a speed trap when it could be I am just reminding a driver to turn theirs on or that they have one out?


13 posted on 02/04/2014 7:34:09 AM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-208: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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I did it once about midnight on the road from Possum Kingdom Lake back to Fort Worth . . . it was a policeman who turned around and pulled us over . . .said you can’t do that . . . well duh we were trying to warn oncoming traffic there was a whole herd of black cows on a pitch dark black highway and hoping they’d slow down before hitting them . . . he said oops that is where I was heading and let us go. This was before onslaught of cell phones.


14 posted on 02/04/2014 7:35:10 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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I have had my butt saved from speed traps a couple of times by truckers flashing their lights at me. In my younger sports car years of course. :-)


15 posted on 02/04/2014 7:43:01 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Is flashing headlights to warn of a speed trap protected by the First Amendment? Short answer: YES.


16 posted on 02/04/2014 7:43:16 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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I’ll put this in my “cases that are likely to tie-up the entire Federal Court System for the next thirteen years” file.


17 posted on 02/04/2014 7:45:55 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Of course it is. This is getting stupid beyond the dumbness of idiocy...


18 posted on 02/04/2014 7:47:06 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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I think you can flip a police officer off, but the later, in a courtroom, would be contempt of court.

Out in the world, you can flip a judge off without a problem, I would think.


19 posted on 02/04/2014 7:48:20 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Got nailed w my first speeding ticket in 0ver 30 years so I would have appreciated some warning. Since this will cost me over $300 I now use my radar detector whenever I’m driving.


20 posted on 02/04/2014 7:50:32 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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