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White House: When you think about it, 2.5M fewer people working because of ObamaCare is good news
Hotair ^ | 02/04/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 02/04/2014 1:37:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind

I’m done, guys. If we’ve reached the stage of welfare-state decadence where it’s a selling point for a new entitlement that it discourages able-bodied people from working, there’s no reason to keep going. We’ve lost, decisively.

As a great man once said, remember me as I am — filled with murderous rage.

In a statement and conference call featuring top administration officials, the White House tried to beat back an emerging narrative that the CBO report supported claims made by health care reform critics. The CBO report says the Affordable Care Act could lead to a reduction of 2 million full-time workers between 2017 and 2024. The CBO says the reduction would not come via fewer available full-time jobs (as critics of the law have alleged) but “almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor that workers choose to supply.”…

“To put that in context, I have no doubt that if we eliminated Social Security and eliminated Medicare, there would be many 95-year-olds that would choose to work more hours than they’re working today just so they could survive, feed themselves and have health insurance,” the official said.

The CBO’s projected reduction in full-time workers, then, “shouldn’t be a significant cause for surprise and it reflects the fact that workers have a new set of options and are making the best choices that they can choose to make for themselves given those options,” the official said.

In other words, it’s not that employers will be offering 2.5 million fewer jobs. It’s that ObamaCare, by subsidizing low earners and expanding Medicaid for the very poor, will incentivize 2.5 million people not to work. Or, if you prefer:

The message from this WH presser: ACA gives workers more choices, including the option to work less.

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) February 4, 2014

Billions upon billions of dollars in economic productivity up in smoke as workers who’ve stuck with their jobs for the health insurance quit and take a subsidies check from Uncle Sam instead. To the White House, which otherwise bleats about “growth” at every opportunity, this is a feature of the law, not a bug. WaPo’s fact-checker even rushed out a piece this afternoon in defense of their position. The law’s not destroying 2.5 million jobs, says Glenn Kessler, it’s merely inviting 2.5 million employees to quit. How much does it matter to growth, though, if the labor force shrinks on the demand side versus the supply side? Will all, or most, of the vacated positions be filled by younger workers or will they evaporate as businesses downsize (or close down)? If giving people more “choice” in whether to be employed or not is now our cardinal social good, we might as well go for a guaranteed minimum income and clear out all the wage slaves. Let’s see how small we can get the labor force before the wheels come off the economy.

Don’t act surprised, either. Nancy told you this was coming. Look on the bright side: If fewer people working is a sign of economic success, the Obama presidency will be remembered as a golden age.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbo; obama; obamacare; obamalies; unemployment

1 posted on 02/04/2014 1:37:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Nancy Pelosi said this a few years ago while selling the bill. Passing Obamacare would free you from the drudgery of having to have a job.


2 posted on 02/04/2014 1:39:07 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

To a liberal, working is a bad thing..a good thing is having more people collecting Govt treats which means more people voting Dem


3 posted on 02/04/2014 1:43:43 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

Now that is some WORLD CLASS spin~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 02/04/2014 1:43:48 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’ve heard of twisted logic but this is twwwwwiiiiisssstttteddd logic.


5 posted on 02/04/2014 1:44:04 PM PST by certrtwngnut (')
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Simpsons” Treehouse of Horror X (TV Episode 1999)
Homer:
“Lisa, I want you to remember me just as I am right now, filled with murderous rage.”


6 posted on 02/04/2014 1:44:13 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"Obamacare would free you from the drudgery of having to have a job. "

Like being a House 'critter.

7 posted on 02/04/2014 1:44:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

IDIOTS.


8 posted on 02/04/2014 1:45:21 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all about building a permanent voting constituency dependent on government benefits.


9 posted on 02/04/2014 1:45:28 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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So the decline in employment is a natural benefit of Obamacare?


10 posted on 02/04/2014 1:46:48 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...I have no doubt that if we eliminated Social Security and eliminated Medicare,
there would be many 95-year-olds that would choose to work more hours
than they’re working today just so they could survive...”
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What kind of horseshit is that?


11 posted on 02/04/2014 1:47:19 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I believe that is one of their “givens” on the left,

that true freedom is only found in the ability not to have to provide for yourself.


12 posted on 02/04/2014 1:47:21 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; All

Two things I’ve never understood about Democrats/Liberals/Socialists:

a. Why haven’t they aborted themselves out of existence yet?

b. What happens when the tax dollars that pay for all this ‘free’ chit run out?


13 posted on 02/04/2014 1:47:28 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Because abortion lovers only want OTHERS to be aborted, they would never abort themselves for the “Cause”


14 posted on 02/04/2014 1:48:39 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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15 posted on 02/04/2014 1:49:17 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the money for Medicaid and subsidies which allow these people all this free time will be provided by the insurance fairy.


16 posted on 02/04/2014 1:49:56 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If King Obama could discourage everyone from looking
for work he could attain an unemployment rate of 0%.


17 posted on 02/04/2014 1:50:08 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: SeekAndFind

The administration is claiming the loss of jobs from obamacare is a good thing because people will no longer be tied to a job. In other words, they want people unemployed and on the fedgov dole.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 1:50:12 PM PST by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: Gene Eric

How about they give us MORE Obamacare so none of us have to work!


19 posted on 02/04/2014 1:50:28 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: headstamp 2

Until the government runs out of money. Then whatever will they do?


20 posted on 02/04/2014 1:50:40 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a much better idea, If the members of the mac daddy administration just stopped working against the American people it would save us trillions of dollars.


21 posted on 02/04/2014 1:51:27 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: SeekAndFind

That statement has got to be the second most stupid thing I have ever heard with the first being listening to anything mac daddy says.


22 posted on 02/04/2014 1:54:04 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: SeekAndFind

And those who think Obamacare is a good idea will think less work is a good idea. Let’s just kill the economy now.


23 posted on 02/04/2014 1:54:56 PM PST by scripter
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To: Starstruck
And the money for Medicaid and subsidies which allow these people all this free time will be provided by the insurance fairy 40% budget deficit created by issuing Baraqqi/Bernanke/Yellin minibucks.
24 posted on 02/04/2014 1:55:09 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Mr. K
How about they give us MORE Obamacare so none of us have to work!

Gonna have to steal that one.

25 posted on 02/04/2014 1:56:06 PM PST by scripter
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To: Paladin2

I think Pelosi said something like “if you want to quit your job on the loading dock and become a street mime, you are now free to follow your dreams” or similar rot.


26 posted on 02/04/2014 2:07:14 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The gov’t (and the GOPe) have come out against the US peeps.


27 posted on 02/04/2014 2:09:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: nascarnation

Where’s my $2500 buck$?


28 posted on 02/04/2014 2:10:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: certrtwngnut

The Democrat mind is a strange place. They ARE effing nuts!


29 posted on 02/04/2014 2:12:54 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I think Pelosi said something like “if you want to quit your job on the loading dock and become a street mime, you are now free to follow your dreams” or similar rot.

sage advice there nazi pelosi you are one bad actor that needs to shut your mouth

30 posted on 02/04/2014 2:19:43 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SeekAndFind
You are missing the main point:

This increases the People's liberty because they no longer HAVE to work.

31 posted on 02/04/2014 2:20:47 PM PST by expat2
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To: SeekAndFind

fUNemployment!

Remember that one?


32 posted on 02/04/2014 2:28:21 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
b. What happens when the tax dollars that pay for all this ‘free’ chit run out?

That is already happening. You've probably heard of myRA; it is the opening salvo to confiscating our retirements, make no mistake. The politicians have had their eye's on that money of ours for decades. Now is the time for them. After they burn through our retirement money a jolly little collapse happens and most of the country starves to death if disease doesn't get them first. That is of course if a juicy world war doesn't break out to speed up the process.

33 posted on 02/04/2014 2:49:42 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Hey! Quit tryin’ to cheer me up! ;)


34 posted on 02/04/2014 3:42:14 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://whywork.org/

Nancy’s peps...CLAWS
Creative Livable Alternatives to Wage Slavery


35 posted on 02/04/2014 3:58:56 PM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Two things I’ve never understood about Democrats/Liberals/Socialists:

a. Why haven’t they aborted themselves out of existence yet?

Answer: This is why they indoctrinate in the schools, to convince the competition’s kids to follow their lifestyle, as well as why they seek to import replacements (high immigration).

b. What happens when the tax dollars that pay for all this ‘free’ chit run out?

Answer: High inflation, a long Depression, revolution or all three.


36 posted on 02/04/2014 4:31:23 PM PST by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind

“The CBO’s projected reduction in full-time workers, then, “shouldn’t be a significant cause for surprise and it reflects the fact that workers have a new set of options and are making the best choices that they can choose to make for themselves given those options,” the official said.”

Thar comment can be translated into the closer truth the official refused to clarify, which is: “Yes, we understand, we created a program that mandated a bunch of new options that created conditions responsible for 2.5 million more Americans to no longer be actively employed. But now the remaining working people and their employers will help somne of thsoe 2.5 millikon to have health insurance anyway, and that’s a good thing.” More litteral translation: “Yes, we know, we grew the number of dependents in the government plantation society.”


37 posted on 02/04/2014 4:47:31 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Mr. K

<Now that is some WORLD CLASS spin~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No kidding. I’m a pretty smart gal but I had to read that several times and I’m still not sure it makes sense.

I feel like my head is going to explode trying to follow what’s going on these days.


38 posted on 02/04/2014 6:54:13 PM PST by radiohead
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To: SeekAndFind

“To put that in context, I have no doubt that if we eliminated Social Security and eliminated Medicare, there would be many 95-year-olds that would choose to work more hours than they’re working today just so they could survive, feed themselves and have health insurance,”

This is the point in the conference call where you have to stick your arm through the phone and bang the “official’s” head on the desk until it splits open!


39 posted on 02/04/2014 7:00:12 PM PST by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So...if worker A quits working because he’s receiving a new benefit, don’t workers B, C, and D have to work harder to pay for said benefit? Or is it rich guy E who pays for it? Or is the answer F: we go deeper into debt? Because we know this new freedom from work isn’t the result of cost savings or new efficiences generated by Obamacare.


40 posted on 02/04/2014 7:27:23 PM PST by Yardstick
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