Kelly - R - PA
Kelly - restore public trust - people come and say use my story but don’t use my name.
how will you turn this around? This is a trust issue.
Make a million 1 in ten chance to be audited?
Response: yes
Kelly: employees of IRS - income amounts
Response: looked into that employee income
employees under critical pay
Kelly: because of your background - called to turn around companies
you are drawing a conclusion - based on facts not being revealed
the truth is we don’t know do we?
Response: No
Kelly: No one can say there is no evidence, because it is not done - those types of answers add to the gap - public trust issue
Kelly: when I am home, they ask how do we know we can trust the government
we give them reasons not to trust us - hearings like this are important
You can’t use my name is chilling
when people say nothing to see here - that’s a clue there is a cover up
Sam Johnson - R - Texas
Used by identity thieves - death master file
Dept of Commerce that handles this file has ignored the law
Does it mean the file can still use it?
Response: yes
Johnson: those can be used
Response: Yes
Johnson: IRS and ACA - on taxes
government can sue individuals who do not pay the tax?
response: yes
Johnson: how much would one person have to owe before getting sued?
Response: don’t know
Johnson : IRS management of Individual tax payer numbers
I will introduce legislation to reform taxpayer numbers.