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Lake Superior nearing rare ice-over
Pioneer Press ^ | 2-7-14 | John Myers

Posted on 02/07/2014 5:01:55 AM PST by TurboZamboni

DULUTH, Minn. -- A frigid winter is pushing Lake Superior toward a complete ice-over for the first time since 1996, though there's still a ways to go before you can skate from Duluth to the Soo Locks.

Lake Superior had at least some ice across an estimated 91 percent of its surface as of Thursday, according to the Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory.

That compares with the 40-year average annual Lake Superior ice coverage for February of just 30 percent.

George Leshkevich has been tracking Great Lakes ice for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory since 1973. He's seen all kinds of winters over those 41 years, and all sorts of ice cover.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; cold; duluth; frozen; globalcooling; ice; manbearpig; warming
Winter gives access to dramatic ice caves along Lake Superior

http://www.twincities.com/travel/ci_25028967/winter-access-dramatic-sea-caves-apostle-islands-national

1 posted on 02/07/2014 5:01:55 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Al Bore to the white courtesy telephone ...


2 posted on 02/07/2014 5:04:51 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: TurboZamboni

Global Warming models predicted this.


3 posted on 02/07/2014 5:07:42 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Between the ice cover preventing evaporation, the rainy summer of 2013 and record snowfalls, the lake levels should come up considerably.

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4 posted on 02/07/2014 5:08:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Next thing we will hear is that Hell has frozen over as also predicted by the Global Warming Worshipers.


5 posted on 02/07/2014 5:18:40 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: cripplecreek

Next thing we will hear is that Hell has frozen over as also predicted by the Global Warming Worshipers.


6 posted on 02/07/2014 5:19:18 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: SampleMan
"Global Warming models predicted this.

Sure they did, I'm just positive of it!

7 posted on 02/07/2014 5:19:22 AM PST by WHBates
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To: TurboZamboni
A photo I grabbed a couple days ago.



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8 posted on 02/07/2014 5:19:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Progov

9 posted on 02/07/2014 5:21:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SampleMan
Global Warming models predicted this.

Of course they did! After all, the models are (seriously) all over the place and apparently somewhat unstable - tending to spin off into predictions of ice-overs or melt-downs with slight changes in initial conditions. Since mother nature is generally a reasonably stable and self-correcting system (with the possible exception of a super nova) the models obviously have it wrong, and adding artificial constraints to them does nothing to address the underlying problems with the algorithms.

But that doesn't matter to the AGW believers. Every event is proof of AGW. Unseasonably warm, cool, wet, dry, you name it. Any and every weather pattern that rolls along proves their theory. Even no change - proves AGW is stagnating weather patterns. I have literally heard every single one of them from AGW types - the hot/cold/wet/dry/same... It is starting to look like a mental disorder.

10 posted on 02/07/2014 5:25:59 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: TurboZamboni
From the referenced ice cave article:

Climate change has meant less ice cover on average in recent years (So this year's ice event is normal? Oh wait, it's not normal for Superior to have this much ice... but,... I'm confused. What is the evidence of climate change?)

"If you're out there and there's cracking and popping and you can feel the ice going up and down, it's a good time to go back to the car," (Howk, assistant chief of interpretation for the national lakeshore) said. Spoken like a true professional.

11 posted on 02/07/2014 5:26:27 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Polar Bears seen in Chicago.


12 posted on 02/07/2014 5:31:18 AM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas: www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: ThunderSleeps; WHBates

If the temperature gets __________ in __________ it proves global warming is happening.

If rainfall _________ in __________ it proves global warming.


The most telling thing lately is their data magic on historical temperatures. Unable to easily lie about current temperatures, they simply reworked their data calculations to magically make things colder in the past. Then all of a sudden...presto, we are in the warmest years on record.


13 posted on 02/07/2014 5:36:06 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: TurboZamboni

I heard Miami made a bid for the 2022 Winter Olympics


14 posted on 02/07/2014 5:36:59 AM PST by almcbean
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To: TurboZamboni
Makinac Bridge:

http://www.mackinacbridge.org/bridge-cam-20/

15 posted on 02/07/2014 5:37:33 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: TurboZamboni; cripplecreek

Interesting. Thanks for the post;ping.

http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2014/02/great_lakes_added_11_percent_i.html


16 posted on 02/07/2014 5:37:50 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Rebelbase

Eagle Harbor cam

http://eagleharborcam.com/


17 posted on 02/07/2014 5:40:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Progov

We in Michigan do have a town called Hell, and it has frozen over, as has the state.

I’m skating to Chicago (from Northern Michigan) next week..anyone want to tag along? :)


18 posted on 02/07/2014 5:40:51 AM PST by blu
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To: Rebelbase

Soo Locks cams. (These are USACE so you might get a warning)

https://webcam.crrel.usace.army.mil/soo/


19 posted on 02/07/2014 5:41:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

As a caver, it is truly remarkable to see water ice developing in one winter the same formations, complete with colors, that can be seen in the calcite formations in limestone caves formed over eons.


20 posted on 02/07/2014 5:43:50 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Rebelbase

I drove over the Mackinac bridge and right after it was shut down. The car was getting buffeted around by the wind.

I went through the area where US 2 was shut down because of the drifting of snow coming over US 2.

This is the area where in the summer people pull to the side and swim in Lake Michigan.

Lake Effect Snow has made for plenty of snow Houghton has over 200 inches.

sault Sainte Marie has 130 inches.

Gaylord has 140 inches

St. Ignace has 95 inches


21 posted on 02/07/2014 5:54:27 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Progov

22 posted on 02/07/2014 5:56:19 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Rebelbase

I have driven on that bridge when it was windy. Scaaaaary.


23 posted on 02/07/2014 5:58:14 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: cripplecreek

Used to go up to the top of the Upper Pennisula every year and go snow shoeing. One year Lake Superior was frozen enough that we were able to walk on the ice from Munising out to Grand Island.


24 posted on 02/07/2014 6:02:55 AM PST by LivingNet
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To: TurboZamboni

4” of ice will support a car/jeep. Why do i know this? Grew up in upstate NY where it was not odd in the ‘50s-’60s for small lakes (even Ontario...) to have areas frozen enough to get into some fun tow-tubing/sledding.


25 posted on 02/07/2014 6:33:15 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: TurboZamboni

this is the exact situation “Turbo Zamboni” has fantasized about for years, isn’t it?????


26 posted on 02/07/2014 6:34:45 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: LivingNet

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee


27 posted on 02/07/2014 6:35:39 AM PST by freefdny
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

This report is all lies! algore said all ice would melt by now (even that in my fridge). All lies, I tell you.


28 posted on 02/07/2014 6:36:01 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: trebb

I wouldn’t have too much fear of driving on ice like there is on the inland lakes this year.

Back in the 80s when they were still holding the ice festival on Clark lake there were tractor trailer rigs parked on the ice and parking lots full of cars.

I’m ready to buy a cheap small pickup truck and cut a hole in the floor for icefishing.


29 posted on 02/07/2014 6:57:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

It’s all part of my rock n roll fantasy.


30 posted on 02/07/2014 7:09:41 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: freefdny

Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald condensed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfHJ_G5V0M0


31 posted on 02/07/2014 7:11:06 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: trebb

8” + is the rule for cars

http://www.nwosta.ca/images/IceThicknessChart.jpg


32 posted on 02/07/2014 7:18:41 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni
8” + is the rule for cars

We don't need no stinking rules.

Probably better safe than sorry - I know that 4" was considered enough back then, but never got into the engineering specs. There were the occasional fall-throughs, but no telling if they just hit some thinner spots or if the rest were just living on borrowed time.

Thanks for the link - it seems there really is something for everything on the internet.

33 posted on 02/07/2014 7:27:44 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

I’ve gone through.

Not lately. It’s not fun on snowmobile,but I imagine it would suck in a car.


34 posted on 02/07/2014 7:31:24 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni

Scary stuff. I fell thru in a creek so I was only 4 ft deep or so but it was scary as he!! to me.


35 posted on 02/07/2014 7:34:21 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Rebelbase

My word! There is NO way I would cross that bridge in a semi at least not without my diving outfit on.


36 posted on 02/07/2014 8:12:09 AM PST by madison10
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To: cripplecreek

LOL!


37 posted on 02/07/2014 8:34:23 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: madison10

No point in a diving outfit. The 200 foot plunge would kill you.


38 posted on 02/07/2014 8:37:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

LOL! Gore forecast?


39 posted on 02/07/2014 8:42:03 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cripplecreek
The winds finally subsided last week, the cold has not relented, and Lake Michigan has finally frozen all the way to the Manitou Islands.

The winter from Hell seems to not be giving up anytime soon.........


40 posted on 02/07/2014 8:44:21 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Lakeshark

The Farmer’s Almanac is predicting this kind of cold to last well into March.


41 posted on 02/07/2014 8:48:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I've always loved winter up here since snow generally stays and is actually white all winter, this is the first time it's actually got me a bit scared. The wind, the cold, the amount of snow causing drifts and lots of white outs is almost a daily occurrence. A week ago I was driving through a virtual tunnel, an 8 foot drift had taken over one half of the main road I was driving on, with a four foot drift on the other side. I'm going 2 miles an hour because I can't see five feet in front of my car, just hoping no one is coming from the other direction. That happened several times as I was driving, the single lane drift tunnels lasting for over many hundreds of yards with no visibility.

Freak stuff. No one up here has seen anything quite like this, I've even spoken to people that have been here since the early 1940's.

42 posted on 02/07/2014 8:57:29 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Lakeshark

In my little town even the road surface is pretty clean packed snow. It hasn’t been able to melt into slush so it’s stayed pretty clean.


43 posted on 02/07/2014 9:04:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
With the wind relenting last week, we can see the road occasionally here and there for the first time in a while.

This is going to get dicey when it finally starts to melt.

44 posted on 02/07/2014 9:08:51 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
It is starting to look like a mental disorder.

For all the millions of believers on this Earth it truly is a mental disorder. For those that are behind it, AGW has become the largest money scam in the history of the world! Period.

45 posted on 02/07/2014 10:58:20 AM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from job-lock this November!)
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