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House passes debt-ceiling increase with no add-ons
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Posted on 02/11/2014 2:35:53 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

This is a developing news story. An earlier version of the article follows:

House GOP leaders announced Tuesday they will advance this week an increase in the government's borrowing cap that's free of any add-ons. A vote is scheduled for Tuesday night because of the threat of a winter storm.

House Speaker John Boehner announced the plan after a poll of the Republican rank and file failed to show enough support for a plan to tie the hike in the debt limit to a plan to reverse a recently passed cut to military pensions.

The Ohio Republican said he expected virtually all of President Barack Obama's Democratic allies to vote for the so-called clean debt cap increase but that he would be one of the few Republicans to back it in the vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; ceiling; debt; gopfailures; joecrowley; johnboehner; newyork; ohio; spending; teamromney
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So because of a winter storm they are rolling over?

$20 Trillion here we come. A stones throw away now.

1 posted on 02/11/2014 2:35:53 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

And brave sir Robin bravely ran away.


2 posted on 02/11/2014 2:38:36 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Red in Blue PA

And you KNOW that a lot of those 199 votes “against” where CYA votes where they knew it was going to pass anyway.


3 posted on 02/11/2014 2:38:51 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Red in Blue PA

Psychopaths, all of them politicians! Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!Spend!...
COWARDS.


4 posted on 02/11/2014 2:39:08 PM PST by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Curious. At what point (debt) does it all fall apart? 20 trillion? 25 trillion?

This is what sunk the Soviet Union.


5 posted on 02/11/2014 2:40:35 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345; All

China is buying gold mines around the world and stocking up on physical investments in gold, with what some say is an attempt to build a gold backed currency.

Our politicians raise the debt ceilings with absolutely no provisos.

Which politicians are more responsible for their country?


6 posted on 02/11/2014 2:42:57 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

There is no point in taking casualties at this time in a battle that can not be won

The real battle is over Obama care and it is being won. That outcome will substantially reduce the casualties when the battle occurs on our ground

The time to win is coming


7 posted on 02/11/2014 2:44:20 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

That is the same argument I hear from the DC beltway types each time the debt ceiling issue comes up.

Guess what? Doing that never solves the problem.


8 posted on 02/11/2014 2:46:25 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA; FReepers; Patriots; FRiends
What's "developing or Breaking News" about it?

Reported on FaceBook (of all places) by Republican Thinker 2 hours ago, right along with this graphic, (which I've now linked to our FReepathon).








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9 posted on 02/11/2014 2:47:33 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am wondering what collateral US might offer to our lenders to cover our debt? Our natural resources?


10 posted on 02/11/2014 2:47:33 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Red in Blue PA
Yada, yada, yada… (Pffffft!!!)

We just had alla them CONgress critters cornfused with Reps that give a (BLEEP!) for their national interest… (GROSS flatulence!)

11 posted on 02/11/2014 2:52:05 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s hard to tell one UniParty™ member from another. We need a second party.


12 posted on 02/11/2014 2:52:42 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dhs12345

How far away is the cliff now?


13 posted on 02/11/2014 2:52:43 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: bert

“There is no point in taking casualties at this time in a battle that can not be won”

I think we could have won something. Just open up a list of really bad spending and cut it from the budget. Obama and Reid spike the bill and then you cave. But at list the list of stupid spending got publicized.

I am GOPe and even I think just caving is bad. Ok, we can’t win, but we can make a stink and at least publicize some of the worst, indefensible, not even a democrat could disagree spending abuses.


14 posted on 02/11/2014 2:53:02 PM PST by staytrue
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To: RIghtwardHo

It gives a lie to why the GOP should remain in control of the House. The GOP has the votes to stop a clean version but would rather provide the votes needed by the Dems to pass it. And they think this will help them with the base?


15 posted on 02/11/2014 2:53:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: Red in Blue PA

You do not consider the fact that politics is the art of the possible.

It is correct to be for less debt but it is incorrect to lose blood and treasure in an attack up the valley of death by the light cavalry

The point was made twice in recent time. The raw political power required to prevail is lacking. The massed artillery presently controls the valley


16 posted on 02/11/2014 2:53:31 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: dhs12345

Perhaps Fort Knox. The land, the buildings, the content. All of it.


17 posted on 02/11/2014 2:53:43 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Red in Blue PA

What a country!

Kumbaya the new anthem!


18 posted on 02/11/2014 2:54:33 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: bert

R U kidding? The Dems are hanging in the ropes reeling asking for a knock out blow and what does Boner do? He goes limp.


19 posted on 02/11/2014 2:54:39 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

And the incompetency, corruption and un-Americanism goes on and on and on and the greedy politicians get richer and richer and Americans once again get the shaft.


20 posted on 02/11/2014 2:54:48 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: staytrue

We did that twice.

This year, the battle will be fought and won, not in the assembled House but in the districts maintaining the House and gaining the Senate.


21 posted on 02/11/2014 2:58:40 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

It has been done many times before in similar circumstances.


22 posted on 02/11/2014 2:59:34 PM PST by kabar
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To: Red in Blue PA

John Boehner’s primary opponent:

http://gurrforcongress.com/

IF ANYONE IS MAD, YOU KNOW WHERE TO SEND MONEY.


23 posted on 02/11/2014 3:00:15 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: onyx

In addition to FR that is ;)!


24 posted on 02/11/2014 3:00:45 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

IBT “Boehner’s Brilliant Move” crowd.

http://www.replacethespeaker.com


25 posted on 02/11/2014 3:00:46 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: kabar

Then is not now


26 posted on 02/11/2014 3:00:58 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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221 to 201 vote on the floor of the House

Boehner got 28 to vote Yea..


27 posted on 02/11/2014 3:01:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: JSDude1

OF COURSE!
:)


28 posted on 02/11/2014 3:01:57 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
poll of the Republican rank and file failed to show enough support for a plan to tie the hike in the debt limit to a plan to reverse a recently passed cut to military pensions.

Frankly, I find it hard to blame Boehner for this....is anyone denying his statement?

29 posted on 02/11/2014 3:02:30 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: bert

Yep, which is why the GOP is about to implode. It has ceased being the opposition party and made a mockery of why anyone should vote for them to hold on to the House or gain control over the Senate. Time to sit the next election out.


30 posted on 02/11/2014 3:04:55 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Either the republicans believe they can win without true conservatives voting, or they simply don’t want to win.


31 posted on 02/11/2014 3:05:36 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

I actually hate Boner more than I do Odumbo!!


32 posted on 02/11/2014 3:06:26 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: kabar

This time last year they gave up any power they had and wrote obama a blank check.

I’m with you. Gas is way too expensive to waste driving to the polls to waste my vote. I wasted the last two.


33 posted on 02/11/2014 3:08:07 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

By the way, is there a dollar amount they’ve agreed to? Or is it another blank check for obama?


34 posted on 02/11/2014 3:09:41 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Red in Blue PA; onyx; kabar; NormsRevenge; All

Here’s what Sen Ted Cruz just had to say about this bill being passed....

“This is a mistake. Not a good sign when the bill that we pass, is the exact same Bill that would pass if we had Speaker Nancy Pelosi. That’s a sign that we’re going down the wrong road. In the Senate, I’ve already indicated my intention to object this Bill coming up - raising the debt ceiling with just the 50 votes threshold - I’m going to insist on a 60 vote threshold...”


35 posted on 02/11/2014 3:15:11 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long; Red in Blue PA; kabar; NormsRevenge; LibLieSlayer; All

He’s the very best.
God bless and keep him.
It’s our sacred duty to more like-minded patriots to him and Mike Lee come November.


36 posted on 02/11/2014 3:18:55 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Jane Long
“This is a mistake. Not a good sign when the bill that we pass, is the exact same Bill that would pass if we had Speaker Nancy Pelosi. That’s a sign that we’re going down the wrong road. In the Senate, I’ve already indicated my intention to object this Bill coming up - raising the debt ceiling with just the 50 votes threshold - I’m going to insist on a 60 vote threshold...”

Good to see this from Sen. Cruz. Ultimately, he likely can't kill the debt ceiling increase, since it will easily get 60 votes in the Senate. But still, good to see SOMEONE drawing attention to the nonsense.

37 posted on 02/11/2014 3:30:19 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Red in Blue PA

What’s the max on this credit card? $30 trillion? $40 trillion? When will our bonds be like Venezuela toilet paper? Where is the voice of our grandchildren in this debt debate? They’re the ones with the most to lose.

Nobody in the entire federal political class gives a crap about any of this. Pray for America.


38 posted on 02/11/2014 3:40:27 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

What is there a debt ceiling if it can be raised so easily?


39 posted on 02/11/2014 3:47:59 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

First word should be “Why” not “What”


40 posted on 02/11/2014 3:50:53 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Anything to stay in power one more day.

Politics = crack


41 posted on 02/11/2014 3:51:38 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: kabar
Time to sit the next election out.

How does that help make things better?

42 posted on 02/11/2014 4:01:35 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Piece of shit Boehner stabbed us in the back.

And spent more of OUR KIDS’ money, against his prior promises.

The piece of shit must be flushed out of Congress.


43 posted on 02/11/2014 4:04:25 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Red in Blue PA

I AM FINISHED WITH THIS CHARADE !! These putrid sickening republocrats sold us OUT. I am ashamed I ever voted for these scum buckets. Might as well vote for real demorats as these fake conservative bastards.


44 posted on 02/11/2014 4:10:45 PM PST by SADMILLIE
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To: bert

Agree.


45 posted on 02/11/2014 4:11:52 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Boehner came to power based upon a promise to reduce the debt. He is now increasing our kids’ debt. He is a lying sack of excrement. And a drunk.


46 posted on 02/11/2014 4:13:38 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: TurboZamboni

Brave! Brave! Sir Robin!


47 posted on 02/11/2014 4:18:15 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Member Party Dist.
John A. Boehner R OH-8
Ken Calvert R CA-42
Dave Camp R MI-4
Eric Cantor R VA-7
Howard Coble R NC-6
Chris Collins R NY-27
Charlie Dent R PA-15
Michael G. Fitzpatrick R PA-8
Mike Grimm R NY-11
Richard Hanna R NY-22
Doc Hastings R WA-4
Darrell Issa R CA-49
Peter T. King R NY-2
Frank A. LoBiondo R NJ-2
Kevin McCarthy R CA-23
Howard P. McKeon R CA-25
Pat Meehan R PA-7
Gary G. Miller R CA-31
Devin Nunes R CA-22
Dave Reichert R WA-8
Harold Rogers R KY-5
Peter Roskam R IL-6
Ed Royce R CA-39
Jon Runyan R NJ-3
John Shimkus R IL-15
Christopher H. Smith R NJ-4
David Valadao R CA-21
Frank R. Wolf R VA-10

Voted with the dems


48 posted on 02/11/2014 4:23:26 PM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: staytrue
I think we could have won something. Just open up a list of really bad spending and cut it from the budget. Obama and Reid spike the bill and then you cave. But at list the list of stupid spending got publicized.

You're right, but the time do that was when the budget bill was up for a vote. It's too late now. This is just about paying for spending that they've already authorized, which is when we lost the fight.

Refusing to pay the credit card bill is not fiscal responsibility. We should instead work to stop running up the bills in the first place.
49 posted on 02/11/2014 4:30:24 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: hattend

How does it make things better voting for a party that doesn’t represent your interests and supports policies that will destroy the country?


50 posted on 02/11/2014 4:39:44 PM PST by kabar
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