[bert]

There has been no surrender.

You repeatedly illustrate the point that suicide by bravado is actually loss.

Armies have officers to lead and sometimes restrain troops anxious to go get killed

[INVAR]

There has been no surrender.

Debt ceiling.

Amnesty being pushed.

ObamaCare "It's the law of the land - get used to it"

They have totally surrendered, and you - you are simply justifying their surrender as some kind of moral high ground.

Surrender is victory according to party hacks like you.

The so-called 'officers' in the GOP that you reference are not 'restraining' their troops - they have declared WAR ON THEM.

So you have the 'generals' of the GOP attacking their own troops along with the MarxoFascists.

I call that betrayal and treason. Selling out your base to the enemy and attacking your base to the benefit of the enemy.