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‘Impeach the President’
RedState ^ | Feb 12, 2014 | By: Erick Erickson

Posted on 02/12/2014 11:20:34 AM PST by Jim Robinson

You guys in the press who are reading this right now can be such shameless whores. I generally try to hold to the standard these days that if I wouldn’t be outraged by George Chimpy McBushitler Halliburton and Darth Cheney doing something, I shouldn’t be outraged by President Obama. And if I’d be outraged by Bush, I should be outraged by Obama.

But you journalists have such erections for everything Barack Obama does, you can’t even summon outrage to report fairly on the latest b.s. from the administration over Obamacare. Is it any wonder so many people have stopped trusting you?

Under the latest round of Obamacare delays for companies of 50 to 99 employees, companies who embrace the delay can layoff, restructure, and hire part time workers, but only if they swear to the IRS they are not doing so because of Obamacare. This comes on the heels of a much touted CBO report that finds only anecdotal evidence of a shift to part-time work now, but expects a shift in labor among small businesses in 2015.

If George W. Bush had done that, Dan Rather would be marching on the White House with a pitch fork. Tom Browkaw would be calling for his head on a platter. Andrea Mitchell of that anti-Bush site would be calling for his impeachment. CNN would be interviewing Cindy Sheehan about the boundaries crossed by George and Dick. And — spare me the rebuttals — you know damn well the story wouldn’t be done in passing, but would be wall to wall coverage with your legal analysts, economists, and sour faced anchors all tut-tutting for several days.

“On what legal authority?” you guys would ponder. “Won’t businesses just turn to lying,” you’d speculate...

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To: Jim Robinson

Jonathan Turley on ‘dangerous’ expansion of Obama’s powers

Constitutional attorney reacts to the shift of gravity in Washington

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-kelly-file/index.html#/v/3194620112001


101 posted on 02/12/2014 8:52:39 PM PST by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Jonah Vark

Yup. It’s getting awfully close to a dictatorship. Appears that the congress and the courts have simply given up and ceded all power to the president. Heard O’Reilly say today that it can’t happen here. Dismissed Carson’s question of a 30’s Hitler style dictatorship threat with, “but we’ve got the checks and balances.”

And I’m saying to myself, what checks and balances?


102 posted on 02/12/2014 9:16:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Graewoulf

BTW, since Federal Politicians are the lowest for of Life in America, they are not above the Law.


But they can all plead the 5th, knowing Holder is outta here, and obfuscate all attempts to drag the offenders back up in front of committees. You can drag all the zeroites that have jumped ship in, under oath, but they’ll abscond.

There are really only remedies here: 25th amdt removal, and Nullification.

Ted Cruz has a plan.. Zero is doing all this extra-constitutonal BS because he knows he might be checkmated on it.

The good news is the RINO RAT-enablers are about to go down starting Feb 18 in TX, and snowballing all the way to hell for the rest of the year until November.


103 posted on 02/12/2014 9:48:33 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Hostage
I was mystified by this also. Then I realized: If they don't swear that Obamacare is not the reason for the personnel actions, then they can't enjoy the delayed implementation.

...companies who embrace the delay can layoff, restructure, and hire part time workers, but only if they swear to the IRS they are not doing so because of Obamacare

Nobody in the Regime wants a record of how many people were laid off because of Obamacare.

I think the key here has to do with the SCOTUS "It's a tax" decision. Roberts may have done us all a favor. (Probably unwittingly so)

If a tax, it must be applied uniformly. If a mandate, then all kinds of restrictions and conditions may be applied. If it's a Mandate, then it's unconstitutional.

Is Roberts waiting for a case?

I look forward to a response.

104 posted on 02/13/2014 1:57:27 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: hosepipe

Clinton was impeached.


105 posted on 02/13/2014 2:02:57 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer
I was mystified by this also. Then I realized: If they don't swear that Obamacare is not the reason for the personnel actions, then they can't enjoy the delayed implementation.

...companies who embrace the delay can layoff, restructure, and hire part time workers, but only if they swear to the IRS they are not doing so because of Obamacare...

That would make sense but the timing of the employer mandate delay and the IRS announcement are more than a year apart. So it still does not add up even taking into account the taxation argument which I get to later. Here's the reasoning:

Note the fact that the vast majority of American businesses are honest and law abiding. We can be assured that most every business will not lie especially under penalty of perjury.

Businesses have announced over the past 2 years up until recently that they are laying off or reducing FT workers to PT because of Obamacare. This has been in the news and there have been no rebuttals. Employer notices to employees announcing these actions have been published and the reasoning for these actions have been attributed to Obamacare.

Nobody in the Regime wants a record of how many people were laid off because of Obamacare.

Perhaps more precisely a record is wanted that states that layoffs and reductions are not related to Obamacare.

I think the key here has to do with the SCOTUS "It's a tax" decision. Roberts may have done us all a favor. (Probably unwittingly so)

Roberts did no favors unwittingly or otherwise. The Commerce Clause arguments were strong so he wrote in support of these arguments. The tax arguments that were presented were possible to ignore but he let stand the tax basis for the law. It is true that the PPACA was not presented publicly as a tax but it was argued INSIDE THE COURT as a tax by Obama's lawyers.

On March 21, 2010 Rush Limbaugh and other media were discussing legal challenges that would be mounted against the PPACA. Most media were chasing Commerce Clause arguments but Rush mentioned a 'tax' argument that FDR had used for Social Security.

I researched the background and history of FDR's tax arguments. It was revealing that FDR progressives had wanted a national health insurance program but let this effort be put off to the future. Legal challenges to FDR's new deal programs and Social Security were formidable and much of FDR reforms were overturned in the courts.

Note that Social Security was not introduced as a tax.

It was against the backdrop of overturned reforms that FDR directed his lawyers to argue INSIDE THE COURT that Social Security was a tax yet OUTSIDE the court FDR continued to say that Social Security was not a tax. FDR later admitted that he had turned Social Security into a tax so that legislators would never overturn the program.

This is what became known as the 'FDR Playbook' and this is precisely what Pelosi-Biden-Obama used and referred to in that they were using the 'FDR Playbook'.

And I saw in the news that Obama's lawyers INSIDE THE COURT were arguing that PPACA was a tax.

I did my best here on FR to create awareness of what the real game was, that the PPACA would survive as a tax but everyone was so hopeful that Commerce Clause and 10th Amendment arguments would win the day that my utterances were lost in the noise.

Is Roberts waiting for a case?

No, I believe Roberts is still compromised. I do not think it is conspiracy to say that Obama's 'Chicago Way' tactics were used against Roberts in his quest to adopt children and have them naturalized. I believe criminal elements under Obama found this weakness in Robert's life and his dependency on government approval to see it through so he wrote the decision as a compromise. He was not 'clever', he was not 'brilliant'; he was simply compromised.

There is solid evidence that Roberts changed his view on PPACA at the last moment and wrote the compromise opinion. He could have written that the legislation was in character a mandate to force Americans to buy something they did not want and that this was inconsistent with the tax basis of the legal defense of the law. He could therefore have concluded the law was flawed constitutionally and would need to be redone to be in conformance with constitutional principles.

But Roberts wrote a weaker opinion, one that compromised the two arguments for and against the law. I am convinced and others have published that Roberts threw in the towel with the idea to let the American people sort it out. And I believe he did this to protect his children against the possibility that the federal government would deny his adoption and naturalization application or to investigate and overturn it. If you ever have dealt with the immigration bureaucracy, then you know how easy it is for government officials to turn your life upside down. Same with IRS matters.

As far as your 'Tax' vs. 'Mandate' distinctions, a century of income tax cases would counter the basis of your 'constitutional purity' approach. Under the Income tax code, the principle of 'uniformity' is applied but in 'clever' ways to circumvent legal challenges. For example, the individual income tax is often stated by IRS persons as a 'uniform' tax. This elicits laughter as it is a bizarre assertion. But the reasoning is that within each tax bracket the tax is uniformly applied.

106 posted on 02/13/2014 6:12:30 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Can this case unravel ACA? - - -

Religious liberty advocates and First Amendment defenders are cheering the stunning decision by U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan in New York that promises to speed up the unraveling of ObamaCare. Cogan not only found that the Health and Human Services (HHS) regulation that requires health insurance to include contraceptive coverage was constitutionally questionable, he actually forbade HHS from enforcing it.
As the New York Post details, in ruling on the lawsuit, Cogan decided that the plaintiffs “demonstrated that the mandate, despite accommodation, compels them to perform acts that are contrary to their religion. And there can be no doubt that the coercive pressure here is substantial.”

Most prior lawsuits have focused on the law’s constitutionality. Cogan’s ruling deals with its regulatory enforcement based on the phrase “the secretary shall determine” that appears in the Affordable Care Act no fewer than 1,005 times. This ruling essentially says that HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius cannot enforce a mandate that Congress did not approve and that she cannot unilaterally decide what the First Amendment means or whether it is rendered irrelevant by her edicts.

In other words, regulations do not trump the Constitution.

While the injunction is permanent, it applies only to the four groups that brought the lawsuit — Monsignor Farrell High School on Staten Island, Catholic Health Services of Long Island, the ArchCare health care group and Cardinal Spellman High School in the Bronx.
Yet the lawsuit is likely to be replicated nationwide by other groups. At last count, some 75 similar lawsuits have been filed by nonprofits and religious groups seeking relief from the contraceptive mandate, Jennifer Lee, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, told the New York Daily News.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-obama-care/121813-683478-religious-groups-get-contraceptive-mandate-win.htm#ixzz2t3vMAy8d


107 posted on 02/13/2014 6:18:52 AM PST by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: txhurl

The key is to capture the attention of the Low Infromation Voter.

For a quick REALITY Check, just watch some of the Comedians on TV interview “The Man on the Strret.”

The “American Street” voted in Commie Obama twice, and they still believe that those who oppose him are:
*Evil;
*Guilty of Shutting the Government down;
*Having a war on Women;
*Starving the poor;
*doomed to “have no place in New York State.”

Lots of work to do FRiend, LOTS of WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


108 posted on 02/13/2014 6:44:40 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Good morning to you bump.

5.56mm

109 posted on 02/13/2014 6:53:02 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: PapaNew

IIRC, the treasoncrats wanted to impeach President Reagan over the whole Iran-Contra thing.

I think GHW Bush was the only one where they didn’t want to impeach


110 posted on 02/13/2014 11:20:06 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason)
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To: null and void

At first glance that looked like MAO!


111 posted on 02/13/2014 11:30:06 AM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: houeto
Goodness, what an interesting unintentional resemblance...
112 posted on 02/13/2014 11:33:07 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Right. There was Nixon of course. I don’t know about Carter. Looks like with the exception of GWB, every POTUS since Carter has had a call for impeachment. After awhile it sounds like “wolf” so when the real wolf comes along like now, people aren’t listening.


113 posted on 02/13/2014 11:37:05 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: LucianOfSamasota
The media is complicit, believing they are part of the new ruling class.

So ironic that it is painful. They can open any honest history book and read what happens to the media sycophants once the Marxists/Communists take over. If it happens, they are DEAD MEAT!

114 posted on 02/13/2014 11:37:35 AM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
This is necessary in that the national press and television are increasingly suppressing actions damaging to us all.

Your statement is very true AEMILIUS PAULUS. With that being said, the national press and TV have a very extreme problem that they cannot control this go round and it is only going to get worse. The MSM and TV rely on people being able to watch and be distracted by TV and lied to by the MSM.

Obamacare is causing millions of U.S. citizens to lose billions of hours of distraction time in order to try to comply with this disaster. Many more billions of hours are spent communicating with family and friends seeking advice and trying to figure out what to do. Many are giving up. Many are finding out that they are about to die. My prayers go out to those that have realized or are about to realize that it is "game over" in their cancer battles etc. That they will not be able to keep health insurance for their families. That they will not be able to keep or get a job.

I suspect that there will be many liberals that literally Go To Hell over foisting such massive pain and suffering on so many millions of people.

115 posted on 02/13/2014 12:00:12 PM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Clinton was impeached.


NO HE WASN’T.... Al Gorp never took over as President.. ever..
The House impeached ...BUT...The Senate acquitted him..

Getting a blow job(having sex) as President wasn’t even ILLEGAL...
Clinton’s CRIMES were far more invasive and heinous...
AND he was never even CHARGED WITH THEM...

Example: Chinagate.. The Three Stooges fiasco


116 posted on 02/13/2014 12:05:10 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Jim Robinson; 2ndDivisionVet
Jim, I have been wondering for a while if Obamacare has negatively affected you, 2ndDivisionVet and many other Freepers with serious medical issues. I have seen a few personal posts but not as many as I would have thought. I know that most conservatives like to keep their personal business to themselves. I do but in this case I'll share. I seriously think that if we don't get the GOPe out of the way, there is a cell somewhere with my name on it.

I WILL NOT COMPLY!

117 posted on 02/13/2014 12:15:33 PM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: hosepipe; kinsman redeemer

“Clinton was impeached.”


“NO HE WASN’T.... Al Gorp never took over as President.. ever..
The House impeached ...BUT...The Senate acquitted him..”

An impeachment is like a Grand Jury passing down an indictment. So yes, Clinton WAS in fact impeached. He just wasn’t convicted by the Senate and thus not punished.

Nixon was also impeached, but he removed himself from office before the Senate took action.


118 posted on 02/13/2014 12:25:14 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason)
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To: drypowder
At the current rate of this country's orchestrated economic decline, they will lose their jobs too and they will not receive special treatment from the ruling tyrant class.

I have to disagree drypowder. They most assuredly will get 'special' treatment. Every time the Marxists/Communists get complete control, journalists are some of the first to be imprisoned or murdered.

119 posted on 02/13/2014 12:30:05 PM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: mrsmel; Hostage
The aren't any legal consequences,...

Not sure but I think it was Rush that said the consequence of admitting it was because of Obamacare means the company would immediately lose the exemption and be subject to the fines.

120 posted on 02/13/2014 12:36:58 PM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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