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To: 2ndDivisionVet; xzins

I think the answer to this is for Bible believing Christian Pastors to refuse to act as government agents in signing off on marriage licenses. We need to refer to all government issued marriage licenses as Civil Unions and pastors should simply conduct matrimonial ceremonies without certifying the union for the State.

If the couple wishes to later or earlier go to the courthouse and “make it legal” they can but that would be a secular ceremony.

The perverts have perverted the meaning of “marriage” so we need to distance ourselves from the term and Christians should not expect their pastors to conduct any official ceremony recognized by the State in their churches.

If two Christians wish to be joined in “Holy Matrimony” there is no requirement that it be recognized by the State, especially where that state also recognizes same sex unions as “marriage”. They can be joined before God without the assent of the State and if they want the benefits of the State’s recognition of their relationship, they can do it at the courthouse.

If pastors are acting as agents of the state in marriage ceremonies, then they are risking lawsuits by refusing to do those ceremonies for homosexuals and other perverts. Better not to sign the marriage license than lose a huge lawsuit for following the tenets of your faith.


7 posted on 02/14/2014 11:18:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

Just want to point out the cake people. They just did cakes. That is my only concern. If the state closed a church, pulled tax status or who knows what. Other than that I want the rest to know this is where Libertarians have been for a long time. I think a good way to put it is..
“If two Christians wish to be joined in “Holy Matrimony” there is no requirement that it be recognized by the State,”
and
“If the couple wishes to later or earlier go to the courthouse and “make it legal” they can but that would be a secular ceremony.”

And before anyone craps on the original poster I am the one that used “that” word.


15 posted on 02/14/2014 11:53:32 PM PST by enduserindy (A painted trash can is still a trash can.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Good post.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 6:55:53 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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