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The First, Legal Gay Marriage In Texas?
CBS DFW ^ | February 14, 2014 2:57 PM | Joel Thomas

Posted on 02/15/2014 3:14:43 PM PST by Svartalfiar

NORTH TEXAS (CBS 11 NEWS) – Judge Carl Ginsberg presided over two ceremonies its participants believe are the first, legal gay marriage in Texas.

Two couples said their “I-do’s” and all four people consider themselves female. But one member of each couple has had their gender changed surgically from male to female.

“On all of my information, it still says male,” said Ashely Boucher. “So, legally I’m still male in the state of Texas. My presentation would suggest otherwise. But my documentation says that I can marry Genevieve no questions asked.

“If you were born male and became female through being transgendered or having a gender reassignment surgery, they consider you to be biologically male,” said UTA political science professor Thomas Marshall.

(Excerpt) Read more at dfw.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; ransgender; texas; transgendered
The first legal "gay" marriage in Texas... Is actually between a man and a woman.
1 posted on 02/15/2014 3:14:43 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

Steers is queers....


2 posted on 02/15/2014 3:16:55 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Mike Doocy and Dale Hansen? Two homo pimping Dallas sports casters. They should get a room on Harry Hines.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 3:17:27 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Svartalfiar

This is just a backdoor (excuse me) way of sneaking sodomite unions into Texas. Holder is going to find a way to do it in every state of the union.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 3:19:10 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Svartalfiar

““So, legally I’m still male in the state of Texas.”

Sure cupcake, sure (puke)


5 posted on 02/15/2014 3:20:58 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Svartalfiar
This whole thing just gets more comical every day.

Of course, if some news outlet didn't deem it "newsworthy", we would never know, and that is the way I would prefer to keep it.

6 posted on 02/15/2014 3:22:30 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Svartalfiar

America...Going to Hell in a hand-basket, one step at a time.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 3:24:51 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Svartalfiar

Well then! If anyone can declare being either a man or a woman by simple assertion, then there’s no “need” for “gay” marriage. Any couple of XX’s or XY’s can toss a coin to decide who’ll be the bride and who’ll be the groom.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 3:24:53 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (This is brilliant.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The recent alumni publication I received from Trinity University of San Antonio, TX, listed, in the “Alumni News,” more than one man + man “marriage.” That doesn’t mean they were “married” in Texas, of course.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 3:28:10 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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To: Svartalfiar

As long as his birth certificate says “male”, he is a male and can marry a female who is a female on her birth certificate.

Also, if a male and female marries, THEN one has a sex change, as long as the birth certificate identifies that person as the gender the person was at birth, the designation won’t change. That person can say he/she is a leopard or a kangaroo, but it’s the birth certificate that counts.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 3:28:47 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Svartalfiar

This “marriage” needs to be challenged in court.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 3:31:19 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Svartalfiar

Actually ‘Ashely’ is correct. No matter how much a person wants to change gender, they will always be the gendered which they were born. Every cell in a person’s body will have 46 chromosomes (unless they have a genetic abnormality). A person born male will have XY sex chromosomes and a woman will always have XX sex chromosomes. They can pretend against nature,but it will not change their genetic makeup.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 3:33:41 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue;)
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To: Svartalfiar
The first legal "gay" marriage in Texas... Is actually between a man and a woman.

A male getting his genitals cut off doesn't make him a female; it makes him a eunuch and/or a gelding.

So sad to see a person SO screwed up in his/her own gender that s/he gets another set of them. Sad, sick and sinful. Why not go with GOD's plan? He does know best since He created us.

13 posted on 02/15/2014 3:33:51 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: originalbuckeye
Actually ‘Ashely’ is correct. No matter how much a person wants to change gender, they will always be the gendered which they were born. Every cell in a person’s body will have 46 chromosomes (unless they have a genetic abnormality). A person born male will have XY sex chromosomes and a woman will always have XX sex chromosomes. They can pretend against nature,but it will not change their genetic makeup.

All I can say is: AMEN.

14 posted on 02/15/2014 3:35:05 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Svartalfiar

ROFL! WHAT!!?!

so ... these guys are .... hetrosexuals living as homosexuals ?

do they strap on a fake penis to simulate the one they had removed?

I am so confused.


15 posted on 02/15/2014 3:35:17 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: mrsmel
Holder is going to find a way to do it in every state of the union.

I predicted that a long, long time ago. All they needed was for a couple of states to pass gay marriage provisions. Then, the FED could use those and force acceptance in the remaining states.

Basically, Obama already did that by approving same-sex marriage benefits for FED employees in the various states.

States now would have a difficult argument in denying same-sex benefits to other state residents, as states would face a multitude of discrimination lawsuits.

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Ever wonder why the progressives/libs/leftists are so happy with small changes and political correctness wins? Inch-by-inch they eventually cover miles and miles.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 3:35:30 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Svartalfiar

Another fabulous, big day is Texas history! The sexual perverts are delighted.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 3:37:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Svartalfiar
The couples struggled to find clerks and judges who would cooperate with the marriages trying as many as 17 courts....

And, here we thought it was Austin that was weird :-/

“We sat our child between us when we applied there and said, ‘We’re a normal couple just like anybody else’.”

Um, no. You're NOT a normal couple and you're NOT just like anybody else.

18 posted on 02/15/2014 3:41:24 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Svartalfiar

But one member of each couple has had their gender changed surgically from male to female.
-————————???
So one is a female and the other is a male turned female? So basically they are really a male & female couple. How many of these people are either looking for attention or mentally disturbed?


19 posted on 02/15/2014 3:45:27 PM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Hey we have at least one FReeper who thought this was why Obama beat Romney, soooooo, if conservative zealots would just give in ... to being liberal Democrats ....

Then the whole nation could be liberal Democrats.

Or something like that....


20 posted on 02/15/2014 3:51:55 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Svartalfiar

Two males married but consider themselves females..
WHAT A CONCEPT....

Bizarro world is reality to cartoon people... WoW...
The muppets are more real than THAT!..


21 posted on 02/15/2014 3:55:33 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Svartalfiar

So he was a woman trapped in a man’s body, but he (it?) was a lesbian?


22 posted on 02/15/2014 3:56:47 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Svartalfiar; All
As a side note to the issue addressed by this thread, please consider the following. I have never read the Texas constitution, but the article below indicates that the Texas constitution has been amended to prohibit gay marriages.
"A federal court in San Antonio will hear arguments Wednesday in a case challenging the legitimacy of Texas’ constitutional ban on same-sex marriage." --Same-Sex Marriage Advocates Battle in Court

But there is no question that this state constitutional ban on gay marriage is legitimate imo. More specifically, the states have never amended the federal Constitution to protect so-called gay "rights." So regardless that pro-gay activist judges are wrongly legislating gay rights from the bench, the states are free to make laws which discriminate against such rights, as long as such laws don't also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights.

The main reason that activist judges are getting away with doing these things, imo, is because parents have not been making sure that their children are being taught about not only 10th Amendment-protected state powers, but also the differences between legislative, executive and judicial government powers.

23 posted on 02/15/2014 3:57:08 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Svartalfiar

He was born male and he did NOT change his sex by medical procedures or assertion. He still has a y-chromosome and he is still male. He is a sham female or a wannabe female but he is not a female.


24 posted on 02/15/2014 4:04:34 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: mrsmel

And then what? What will the homosexuals demand next? You know they won’t be satisfied with just “marriage”.


25 posted on 02/15/2014 4:05:23 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Amendment10; All

I think we need a state with a conservative legislature and governor (are there any like this now?) to pass a definition in law of marriage—that HAS IN THE STATUTE that the “jurisdiction of the courts does not extend to review” this statute.

In theory it could work at the federal level (Meese brought this up first on another issue), but it would be interesting to see it tested at the state level. If states can defy federal statutes on marijuana use, why not over marriage—which the federal government has—historically—no jurisdiction over?

In reality it will take the US Supremes to decide this, but I don’t see this court producing a definition of marriage—either way (to include gays or not)—since their last decision defeating the federal defense of marriage act clause, left the part where states are acknowledged to define marriage, intact.


26 posted on 02/15/2014 4:14:04 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!)
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To: Svartalfiar
Its ironic, hedonists promoted the idea that marriage is unnecessary for heterosexuals. Shacking up is encouraged. Marriage they said is just a piece of paper and doesn't mean anything.

Now two men want to marry...wth!

27 posted on 02/15/2014 4:14:29 PM PST by RginTN
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To: ilovesarah2012

As someone said on one of these threads, and is almost true now in Massachusetts, the sodomy-lobby won’t be happy until every 12 year old boy in school has a homosexual adult “tutor...”

Utterly nauseating, but, I think, true.

Sodom wasn’t wiped out by God for nothing.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 4:17:02 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Exactly. You can call it what you want, but you have to change the definition of the word to call it marriage in my book.


29 posted on 02/15/2014 4:21:53 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Svartalfiar

The two ‘women’ have deeper voices than mine. They want to send a message???
I want to send a message, I’m sick of the all homo all the time media.


31 posted on 02/15/2014 4:30:05 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Svartalfiar

There is no question this person is mentally ill.


32 posted on 02/15/2014 4:33:05 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I’ve noticed that there are a LOT of guys who are transgender females, who also like females and consider themselves lesbians.

What it means is that they “think” they have feminine characteristics, which I protest is merely their own male stereotype of what a woman is. So, for example, a guy who really wants to wear a dress thinks they must be female, even though I know a lot of women who never want to wear a dress.

But they fall for the stereotype, can’t believe that a “man” would have “feminine” characteristics (even though most men do, some of us a lot more than others), and therefore feel they would fit in better as a “female”.

I always identified with women, I was comfortable talking with the women, and I’m confident in my own “masculinity” that I never thought I should change sexes just because I cry at a sappy movie.

And it used to be a competent psychiatrist would help a confused man realize that he could have more of a “female” approach to thought processes, but still be a man. But nowadays, that would be “denying” the truth, and so men are getting pushed into becoming transgender women.

The funny part is when they start talking about whether they will actually use surgery, when they clearly are enjoying normal sexual activity — in part because the other transgenders really ostracize transgenders who still do normal sex, like they are “fake”.


33 posted on 02/15/2014 4:34:31 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Svartalfiar

Nice try, idiots. That’s not truly a Same-sex marriage. I could consider myself to be a dog. I could get myself a doghouse, a collar, and chew toys and yet my DNA will still reveal me to be what I am—a human female.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 4:35:38 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crused it. -M. Twain)
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To: Svartalfiar

So it is a man and a woman. Just because you’re a freak doesn’t change your gender.


35 posted on 02/15/2014 4:54:55 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Svartalfiar

No it’s not, it’s a sham (because this shouldn’t be allowed), but this relationship is between a man and another man who has emasculated themselves.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 4:55:44 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Svartalfiar

I haven’t walked in a gay person’s shoes—and I don’t judge them.

That is God’s realm.

I do feel sorry for them, though.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 5:14:08 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: JSDude1

No, it’s perfectly legit. This isn’t a dude and an emasculated dude, it’s between a chick and a dude that thinks he’s a chick. He got his weiner chopped but it’s still an XX / XY marriage.


38 posted on 02/15/2014 5:19:38 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

Judge Carl Ginsberg in not a Christian. This is what happens when non-Christians are in charge.


39 posted on 02/15/2014 5:23:26 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Marcella

The next legal challenge is “I was a legal man when we married and now I am legally female married to a female, make same-sex married so we’re still in accordance with the law”.


40 posted on 02/15/2014 5:32:57 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Svartalfiar

The state legitimately decided not to recognize gay marriage. It should not have to do so. No one has hte right to order it to do so.


41 posted on 02/15/2014 5:33:04 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Svartalfiar

You’d be surprised how many Texans favor this redefinition of marriage, particularly in inner cities.


42 posted on 02/15/2014 5:49:03 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: tbw2

“The next legal challenge is “I was a legal man when we married and now I am legally female married to a female, make same-sex married so we’re still in accordance with the law”.”

The state has one legal document showing the sex of the person and that is the birth certificate. The state is not going to change that so it doesn’t matter what the person does to mutilate the body, the sex remains the same.


43 posted on 02/15/2014 5:56:02 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Svartalfiar

Ok, maybe I misread the article.


44 posted on 02/15/2014 5:57:41 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Svartalfiar

And I am a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.


45 posted on 02/17/2014 3:27:48 PM PST by kaehurowing
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