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Lech Walesa: Obama 'Wasn't Ready' to Be a World Leader
NewsMax ^ | 02/16/2014 | John Bachman and Jim Meyers

Posted on 02/17/2014 5:45:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Anti-communist crusader and former president of Poland Lech Walesa tells Newsmax that of all the national leaders currently on the world stage, the one who has "disillusioned" him the most is President Barack Obama.

Walesa also asserts that Obama "wasn't ready" to take on the task of leading the world's most dominant superpower.

And he calls for reforms at the United Nations so the world body can help fill the vacuum left by the United States' failure of leadership under Obama.

Walesa played a key role in freeing Eastern Europe from the clutches of Soviet communism and ultimately in the breakup of the U.S.S.R.

In 1980, he co-founded Solidarity, the Soviet bloc's first independent trade union. Later in that decade he helped form the first non-communist government in the Soviet bloc, beginning the downfall of communism in Europe.

Walesa won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983, and served as Poland's president from 1990 to 1995. Today he heads the Lech Walesa Institute.

As for his views on Obama, Walesa declares: "Personally, I feel that two politicians disillusioned me the most — myself and President Obama. I prefer to skip talking about myself, but let's discuss why Obama has been such a disappointment.

"When he was elected, everyone hoped and expected that he would reform not only the United States but also the rest of the world. But he failed to implement any constructive reforms. Moreover, it seems like perhaps he doesn't even care if America is still perceived as the superpower it once was."

He added, with tongue slightly in cheek: "If that's the case and if the U.S. doesn't really want to be a superpower anymore, I'd say let Poland take over that leadership and we'd take care of the rest. I promise you, we'd know what to do."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lechwalesa; obama; poland; walesa; worldleader

1 posted on 02/17/2014 5:45:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

newsflash...

Obama wasn’t even ready to lead a girl scout troop!


2 posted on 02/17/2014 5:48:02 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lech is too kind.

It is not a matter of “Readiness”.
It is a matter of “evilness”.


3 posted on 02/17/2014 5:49:50 AM PST by left that other site
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To: All
Note: "SMART POWER"---a post-Bush term coined by Hillary.

Behold what "Smart Power" hath wrought: Debacle after debacle---Obama's careening and incomprehensible handling of the Syrian crisis.....doing a Costa Concordia with US ntl security and foreign policy. Obama outed himself as naive, isolated....and outlandishly stupid. Not to forget then-Secy of State Hillary's part in the "Smart Power" debacle.

Democrats' 'Smart Power' Lies in Ruins; Suddenly
Realizing What They Miscalculated About the World:
National Review | Sept 3, 2013 | Jim Geraghty / FR Posted by kristinn

....... Democrats are suddenly realizing that their foreign policy brain-trust completely misjudged the world.

Being nicer to countries like Russia will not make them nicer to you. The United Nations is not an effective tool for resolving crises. Some foreign leaders are beyond persuasion and diplomacy. There is no “international community” ready to work together to solve problems, and there probably never will be.

You can pin this on Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Susan Rice, but most of all, the buck stops with the president. Those of us who scoffed a bit at a state senator ascending to the presidency within four years on a wave of media hype and adoration are not quite so shocked by this current mess.

We never bought into this notion that getting greater cooperation from our allies, and less hostility from our enemies, was just a matter of giving this crew the wheel and letting them practice, as Hillary Clinton arrogantly declared it, “smart power” (and fronted Time magazine cover).

(These people can’t even label a foreign policy approach without reminding us of how highly they think of themselves.)

They looked out at the world at the end of the Bush years, and didn’t see tough decisions, unsolvable problems, unstable institutions, restless populations, technology enabling the impulse to destabilize existing institutions, evil men hungry for more power, and difficult trade-offs.

No, our problems and challengers were just a matter of the previous hands running U.S. foreign policy not being smart enough. (Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...

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OH, BTW, AT THE SAME TIME Smartpowertics, O and HILL, staged military raids in Libya, they gained access to the National Bank of Libya. (No, no paper money there---just solid gold bars. Solid Gold. Not the Chinese tungsten filled bars that flooded the gold market).

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LET'S STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE In 2009, Obama made a "Smart Power" suck-up speech in Cairo----"apologizing" for America's historical role in the Middle East. By snubbing Mubarak, Obama set the stage for the Egyptian president's overthrow by the Islamic mob.

When the worst-case scenario happened, when Obama's personal choice---Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, Mohamed Morsi, was elected president----Obama sap-happily sent his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, to Cairo to personally kiss-up to Morsi....perhaps at that time hatching their plans to destroy Westen civiliation in compliance w/ Muslim dictates.

Obama's treacherous ill-advised component of US foreign policy----sucking up to the very people who want to kill us and destroy our churches. He portrayed teeming Muslim majorities there as "victims of Western colonialism and Cold War policies," stupidly promoting American-style democracy for these conflicting cultures w/ thousands of years of religious and territorial factionalism.

OBOBO'S SUCKUP "The relationship between Islam and the West includes centuries of coexistence and cooperation, but also conflict and religious wars," Obama said in the June 2009 speech in Cairo. "More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies, without regard to their own aspirations."

Fast forward to 2013: the savage Muslim Brotherhood torched some 63 Egyptian churches and many Christian businesses. Obama ignored the bloodbath and spent the crisis dining out, golfing, power-partying, and vacationing in exclusive Martha’s Vineyard on the taxpayers' dime.

4 posted on 02/17/2014 5:52:21 AM PST by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind

Best line: “let Poland take over that leadership and we’d take care of the rest. I promise you, we’d know what to do.”

Is there any doubt? I’d bet Lech knows a Marxist Totalitarian when he sees one.


5 posted on 02/17/2014 5:52:40 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Obama couldn’t lead hungry dogs to fresh meat.


6 posted on 02/17/2014 5:53:37 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: All
At the Hay Literary festival in Wales, author and PBS historian, Niall Ferguson, spent much of his time dissing Obama's "smart power" speech delivered in Cairo in 2009......describing it as "touchy feely nonsense"...

Ferguson has sent out warnings about Obama's failure to come to terms with what Ferguson sees as the potential rise of the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt and the possible "restoration of the caliphate and the strict application of Sharia"........themes at the heart of this new book "Civilization: The West and the Rest"...............

Ferguson's standpoint is that Western dominance has been a progressive civilizing force.....his new book reinforces these arguments postulating that there were six killer "apps" which propelled the West to a position of predominance.

These were competition, science, property, modern science, consumption and work ethic, each with a dedicated chapter in the book.

Ferguson contrasts how China was the world's most advanced civilization in the 15th century but stagnated and was overtaken by Dutch mercantilism and the rise of capitalism employing the six "skills".

In his books, and on his compelling PBS series "Civilization," Ferguson lists "morality" as a strategic strength of Western Civilization. He points out the successful Chinese business city Wenzou also has 1,400 churches.

7 posted on 02/17/2014 5:55:51 AM PST by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind


8 posted on 02/17/2014 5:58:24 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the same was true of Bill Clinton.


10 posted on 02/17/2014 6:01:52 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He calls Obama a “disappointment”. We call it a disaster.


11 posted on 02/17/2014 6:02:14 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind
It is extraordinary how observers even after all these years scrape the margins of reason to find excuses for the manifold failures of Obama. In this case Lech Walesa puts Obama's failures down to "unreadiness." This is understandable in a foreign observer and, as an observer living in Germany, I saw the same phenomenon here, Obama was regarded as a demigod and the enthusiasm for awarding him the Nobel Peace Prize was as widespread as it was ignorant.

We see the same phenomenon, however, in America by Americans concerning Obama's domestic failures. Time and again the establishment Republicans excuse his failures as matters of judgment rather than putting the blame where it belongs: Obama is a dangerous radical. He wants to transform America which means that he wants to undo our constitutional system, eliminate capitalism, and impose his version of social justice. Internationally, he is quite happy to have diminished America's role in the world which Walesa quite accurately describes. That is because Obama as a radical leftist, and anti-imperialist, a sympathizer of expansive Islam, who knows that America is the greatest obstacle to the worldwide spread of his radical ambitions.


12 posted on 02/17/2014 6:08:32 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
as an observer living in Germany, I saw the same phenomenon here, Obama was regarded as a demigod and the enthusiasm for awarding him the Nobel Peace Prize was as widespread as it was ignorant

I have friends in the UK and Ireland who also contracted Obamamania.

I did not then, and do not now, understand the European fascination with blacks in general and with "Obama" in particular.

Could you comment, with specific reference to Germany, about just what any normal European could POSSIBLY have seen in "Obama" prior to his 2008 election that even suggested that he would be a competent, never mind an outstanding, leader?

13 posted on 02/17/2014 6:13:14 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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To: BlueStateRightist

I’d bet Lech knows....

Those who came to USA & are now citizens & who voted for Obama, aren’t they able to recognize a Marxist Totalitarian when they see one. ??? I just don’t get it. They should be calling him out.


15 posted on 02/17/2014 6:15:40 AM PST by FES0844
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To: nathanbedford

“Obama is a dangerous radical. He wants to transform America “

To do that, he has to destroy the United States of America and if he were to succeed in doing that, he shouldn’t call it the United States of America and neither could we.


16 posted on 02/17/2014 6:27:09 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
He added, with tongue slightly in cheek: "If that's the case and if the U.S. doesn't really want to be a superpower anymore, I'd say let Poland take over that leadership and we'd take care of the rest. I promise you, we'd know what to do."

That's gotta leave a mark...

17 posted on 02/17/2014 6:29:36 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Being a foreigner, it is ok for Walesa to be surprised in Obama’s inability to lead.

For those of us who follow such things, there was no surprise at all. Obama had no leadership experience and the US press deliberately failed to expose Obama’s background.


18 posted on 02/17/2014 6:32:38 AM PST by kidd
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To: SeekAndFind

Lord help us, I like everything Lech Walesa says, but he is clearly a globalist


19 posted on 02/17/2014 6:35:27 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like its time for the press to start demonizing Walesa!!


20 posted on 02/17/2014 6:41:39 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Jim Noble
Yesterday there was a thread concerning the city of Baltimore and a blog which had evidently gone viral to the effect that a woman living in that city was tired of being regarded as "prey" by African-Americans. The blog went viral and the response on FreeRepublic was large and very unflattering to the African-American "community." I venture that millions of Americans have become very disillusioned with the role of African-Americans and their disproportionate criminality, bastardy, drug abuse, and dependency. Shorthand: these symptoms constitute a real social pathology which infects virtually every American inner-city.

Europeans, and to my knowledge Germans, are utterly unaware of the racial problems in America. In Europe if you want to go to the best places you go to the center of town but in America if you want to put your life at risk you enter the inner-city. There is no understanding of this in Europe. Europeans, and again to my knowledge Germans, draw their entire understanding of America from television and movies in which the African-American is always portrayed either as the stalwart companion of the hero, the hero himself, or the brutally oppressed victim of white racism. They have no other frame of reference.

To understand Germany think of American suburbs but without talk radio as a place wholly condition by left-wing news sources. Consider it as a place where your children go to school wholly indoctrinated with green values and progressive notions. As a result of this conditioning, German society across the nation is a replay of places like the bedroom suburbs of New York City. Hence there is almost unanimous opposition to the death penalty, to the idea of the right to bear arms, to the notion that free speech can be offensive and, to be of use to those who seek to preserve liberty, it must be offensive.

In sum, Germans think the way nice suburban, educated, Ernest, well-intentioned Americans of the progressive stripe think and that is because they are not exposed to the other side of the story. One very big reason for that, of course, is because of the peculiar history of Germany in the so-called "Hitler time."

Part of what the Germans believe can be encapsulated in the expression "cowboy." When I was first exposed to the Germans use of the word, "cowboy" I was utterly confused because it was always use pejoratively and I, growing up exposed to the American myth, regarding cowboys as exemplars of individual liberty and noble creatures. This is not the perception in Europe. In Europe a cowboy is a loose cannon, a dangerous renegade who is liable to cause ruin for all. When they describe George Bush as a "cowboy" I thought they were referring to his Texas roots, his Texas twang, his good old boy camaraderie but that was a false assumption.

They were extremely wary of George Bush because they saw him as a Christian, therefore ignorant and liable to fling the world into war because anyone stupid enough to believe the Bible is stupid enough to make gross mistakes.

The grossest mistake that Europeans will cite in the last generation is the invasion of Iraq with Afghanistan thrown in for good measure. When George Bush invaded Iraq, I could find no one of my acquaintance here in Germany who supported that war. To the contrary, Bush's role in making war in Iraq confirmed every suspicion Germans ever held about an American cowboy who was a Christian.

Then along came Obama, the video Idol served up to Germans by American television playing the role of the hero or the trustworthy sidekick, telling the Europeans what they were eager to hear and criticizing the war in Iraq.

So Bush played to every negative stereotype and Obama played to every positive stereotype and the Germans, at least concerning America, had nothing to go on except left-wing stereotypes.


21 posted on 02/17/2014 6:42:56 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: JoeProBono

Love Lech! How I followed the Solidarity Movement in the late 70s/80s! Such excitement when I thought that communism was finally being buried alive. And then it came to my own country...it’s like a disease without a vaccination.


22 posted on 02/17/2014 6:43:34 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Walesa also asserts that Obama "wasn't ready" to take on the task of leading the world's most dominant superpower.

And he never will be.

23 posted on 02/17/2014 6:44:51 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Obama wasn’t even ready to lead a girl scout troop!

I disagree.

24 posted on 02/17/2014 6:45:34 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: yldstrk

It’s the cult of personality thing. Obama is bulletproof. He can do anything he wants and because he is black, everyone is afraid of criticizing him for fear of being called a racist.

The team that created Obama should be complimented. After 40 years of positioning themselves throughout the government where they would get to control every facet of society, they needed one more piece to the puzzle and Obama was it. People like Condi and Colin were way too intelligent and people like Jesse and Al were way too stupid. Plus none of them were manufactured.

And they did it knowing full well that we had the guns. So now they are depleting the ammo. Brilliant. And frightening.


25 posted on 02/17/2014 6:47:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind
"But who knows? Maybe there is still a chance that he will suddenly snap out of it and change his way of thinking."

I don't think Obama will "snap out of it." Rather, he will make a last ditch effort to corral the world into the marxist paradise his ilk have been yammering about for the last century.

And he will promptly fall on his skinny half-white @$$.

26 posted on 02/17/2014 6:48:18 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is not a world leader; he sits in a place where one expects to find a world leader but is nothing more than the court jester. I mean honest to God, when he speaks you can see he is and has been overwhelmed by the Presidency. No President ever has done the despicable things this guy has done. Lincoln freed the slaves he has created a whole new class of slaves and done think for a second it is not a very diverse group with all races included.


27 posted on 02/17/2014 6:50:56 AM PST by wvnavyvet
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To: SeekAndFind

At the rate with which he matures and gains wisdom, he should be ready when he’s 137.


28 posted on 02/17/2014 6:51:55 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: nathanbedford
Good morning.

Obama is a dangerous radical. He wants to transform America which means that he wants to undo our constitutional system, eliminate capitalism, and impose his version of social justice. Internationally, he is quite happy to have diminished America's role in the world which Walesa quite accurately describes. That is because Obama as a radical leftist, and anti-imperialist, a sympathizer of expansive Islam, who knows that America is the greatest obstacle to the worldwide spread of his radical ambitions.

Thought that needed repeating for the naïve who happen upon FR from time to time.

5.56mm

29 posted on 02/17/2014 6:52:39 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfit for Duty.


30 posted on 02/17/2014 7:35:16 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama couldn’t lead a horse to water let alone anything else.


31 posted on 02/17/2014 8:13:38 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

If Barry wasn’t thrust into positions of power by men behind the scenes today he would be a bathroom attendant.


32 posted on 02/17/2014 8:30:14 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: SeekAndFind

World leader? I would not have hired Obama as a custodian, a clerk, or for any other role. He’s one of the few people for whom I approve of lifelong welfare benefits - it would be well worth it to pay him generously if he would never again attempt to do anything that affects our economy.


33 posted on 02/17/2014 10:15:16 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: wvnavyvet

“when he speaks you can see he is and has been overwhelmed by the Presidency”

Yes, I’ve seen in his eyes a certain look of fear. The fear of being suddenly exposed to the light of day. Yet there he is, going before the cameras and microphones every other day. What a tool!


34 posted on 02/17/2014 10:37:54 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You think maybe?


35 posted on 02/17/2014 11:38:54 AM PST by OldNewYork
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To: left that other site; BlueStateRightist; JoeProBono; FES0844; trebb; miss marmelstein

Did any of you read this?

>>”Reforming the United Nations should be “President Obama’s initiative,” Walesa opines.

“We need to reform this old organization,” he says. “Better yet, transform it into the global parliament. Transfer the power of the Security Council to the global government.

“NATO should also be changed into the ministry of the global defense. Then we could have a big banner announcing: ‘We, the generation of the 21st century, won’t tolerate the following crimes against humanity: racism, anti-Semitism, ethnic cleansing, etc.’ Should any nation break these rules, the new organization would take care of that.

“We would elect leaders for each sector who would be responsible for maintaining order. In my mind, these kinds of actions and initiatives are expected from the United States. They have always been the savior and the last hope for the world. Unfortunately, it feels now like we’ve lost that sense of hope and that’s very unsettling.”<<


36 posted on 02/17/2014 11:48:30 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Oh My Goodness....


37 posted on 02/17/2014 12:41:28 PM PST by left that other site
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To: B4Ranch

He IS Polish, is he not? /s


38 posted on 02/18/2014 7:20:52 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Walesa is a damn imbecile. People should think twice before they quote him or try to use his name in any positive way.


39 posted on 02/18/2014 11:44:13 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

RE: Walesa is a damn imbecile.

Can you elaborate?


40 posted on 02/18/2014 1:56:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, some of that is in the article you posted, global government and such stuff. Additionally, he was a terrible politician, some say that also a commie agent, not sure about that but at least their useful idiot, that;s for sure.


41 posted on 02/22/2014 11:51:29 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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