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Oliver Stone and Jeremy Scahill Rail Against Obama and His MSNBC Defenders
Mediaite ^ | February 15, 2014 | Andrew Kirell

Posted on 02/17/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Journalist Jeremy Scahill and filmmaker Oliver Stone believe that, on issues of civil liberties and warfare, President Obama has entirely abandoned his 2008 rhetoric. And they see MSNBC and stars like Bill Maher as the biggest cheerleaders for such abrogations.

The two well-known men of the left appeared Saturday at the 2014 Students For Liberty Conference (ISFLC), on a panel entitled “Imperial Overreach and the National Security State,” sponsored by the libertarian Future of Freedom Foundation. They were joined by Stone’s co-author Peter Kuznick, with Newseum vice chairman Shelby Coffey moderating.

While lamenting the “expanding warfare state” in America, both Scahill and Stone took shots at major news outlets for failing to cast a critical eye toward President Obama’s “overreach” on issues like targeted assassinations, covert operations, and military interventions.

“MSNBC is like watching one big Obama for America meet-up,” Scahill said. “And when you watch Fox News, it’s full of conspiracy theory about this scary black Marxist Manchurian candidate.”

Stone chimed in that while President Obama rallied the progressive base in 2008 with tough “anti-war” talk, he has simply continued and expanded upon the policies of his predecessors. “The man stunned us with a lack of spine,” the filmmaker said. “He’s a weak man.”

While discussing his Oscar-nominated documentary Dirty Wars, Scahill singled out MSNBC as one of the strongest defenders of Obama’s policies, including the targeted assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki‘s 16-year-old son.

“If you watch MSNBC,” he said, “they have figured out every possible excuse for why al-Awlaki was killed.” Scahill added that perhaps it’s because “Obama has convinced liberals he is fighting a clean war,” or simply that “Democrats have checked their conscience at the door of the Obama presidency.”

Scahill garnered cheers while discussing his new media venture with Glenn Greenwald, proclaiming that, “As journalists, we should have an adversarial stance towards the state.” He drew the biggest applause of the event upon declaring that “When it comes to national security policy, we only have one party: The war party.”

ISFLC is an annual gathering of several thousand libertarian students from around the world. Scahill bemoaned how many of his liberal Twitter followers attacked him for appearing at the event, and thanked the crowd for such a warm reception.

The only moment of tension between the panelists and their libertarian audience occurred when a South American student confronted Stone about his disdain for American overreach while also supporting abusive leftist regimes like that of the late Hugo Chávez. Stone responded that he believes the American press does not give the Venezuelan administration a fair shake; and that he’s fine with political opposition so long as it’s done legally. The South of the Border director reiterated his belief that the U.S. government illegally and covertly subverts Latin American leaders.

Despite the fundamental disagreement over Chavez’s legacy, Stone stuck around following the speech to sign books and talk with the students. At one point, he was spotted at the Cato Institute’s exhibition booth, picking up a pocket-sized Constitution and a drug policy paper.

[Disclosure: I am a board member of the Alumni For Liberty, a network of college graduates who offer financial support to SFL activities.]

[Editor's note: A few quotes have been updated to match what was said below in the video.]

UPDATE: Watch the full panel video below, via Ford Fischer:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hollywood; lping; obama; oliverstone
Of course we "meddle" in Latin America, just as Rome "meddled" in Judea and Russia does in Eastern Europe.
1 posted on 02/17/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 02/17/2014 1:09:11 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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Journalist Jeremy Scahill and filmmaker Oliver Stone believe that, on issues of civil liberties and warfare, President Obama has entirely abandoned his 2008 rhetoric. And they see MSNBC and stars like Bill Maher as the biggest cheerleaders for such abrogations.

"Hey Pal, come join the party"

- Lieutenant John Maclain.

3 posted on 02/17/2014 1:21:51 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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4 posted on 02/17/2014 1:28:18 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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Oliver Stone’s politics are far to the Left and therefore he can never really be trusted. However he did serve honorably in Vietnam and for that he is at least bearable.


5 posted on 02/17/2014 1:39:49 PM PST by allendale
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Scahill said. “And when you watch Fox News, it’s full of conspiracy theory about this scary black Marxist Manchurian candidate.”

That idiot hasn't left the plantation. He's about as deep as the wax on an apple. Sharp as a bowling ball that boy!

6 posted on 02/17/2014 1:40:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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"President Obama has entirely abandoned his 2008 rhetoric."

Nit Pickers !!!

OBAMA SCORECARD

Promises Made In His June 4, 2008 Nomination Victory Speech

CHECK ALL THAT APPLY:

- Provide care for the sick

- Good jobs to the jobless

- Slow the rise of the oceans

- Planet began to heal

- Ended a war

- Secured our nation

- Restored our image as the last, best hope on earth


7 posted on 02/17/2014 1:42:06 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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I disagree that Oliver Stone is of the same ilk as the far left. He left Yale to serve in VietNam, so having seen both sides he came by his distaste of war honestly. His movie Born on the Forth of July is a sensitive and heartfelt portrayal of the plight of many VN veterans.

There have been situations in the past in which Stone was not in lockstep with the left; I don't recall what they were at this point. I take him to be a man who thinks for himself, even though I don't always agree with his viewpoints.

8 posted on 02/17/2014 1:48:40 PM PST by grania
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The maker of “Schindlers List” knows what comes next ...


9 posted on 02/17/2014 2:38:29 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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shoot... my bad, that was Steven Spielberg.


10 posted on 02/17/2014 2:41:38 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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I agree with your assessment of the man.


11 posted on 02/18/2014 2:35:44 AM PST by Rodamala
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