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I know who is buying up all that ammo. It's... Bob.
1 posted on 02/18/2014 7:39:38 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Excuse me but how do I know that GAO, DHS, DOJ... are not lying?


2 posted on 02/18/2014 7:43:45 AM PST by mountainlion
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To: Nachum

“Drawing on ammunition inventories”....?

No mention of just how large those stockpiles are.


3 posted on 02/18/2014 7:47:46 AM PST by datura (Democrat=Communist, GOP=Democrat, TEA=American)
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To: Nachum

When I snap my fingers, you will awaken relaxed, refreshed and not remember any of this. 3, 2, 1, snap!


5 posted on 02/18/2014 7:57:38 AM PST by bgill
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To: Nachum

Department of Homeland Security. Creepy Nazi name. Twice the budget of the USMC and the same manpower. Didn’t exist in 2000.


6 posted on 02/18/2014 7:59:35 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Nachum

Yeah! Bob and DHS bought up all the .22 LR! Thats it! Thats why I can’t find any .22! I can find .223 5.56 .45 and 9mm but its that darn high powered sniper tactical .22 LR!


8 posted on 02/18/2014 8:01:34 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Nachum

Unfortunately people got hysterical based on the initial information and the quantities listed.

Some cooler heads tried to explain that the quantities being touted as DHS “purchases” were actually contract ceiling quantities which often are far, far, far higher than what an agency will actually ever buy. Government knows this and the private sector knows this.

Unfortunately this story like the one about FEMA buying up every MRE in the US, caught on with alot of conspiratorial thinking folks. Both stories were BS.


11 posted on 02/18/2014 8:11:09 AM PST by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: Nachum
"I know who is buying up all that ammo. It's... Bob."

No, Bob may be buying some but the majority of the rest is being purchased and hoarded by kooks that believe some of the outlandish internet rumors. No amount of truth will set them free.

Center fire ammo is now readily available in most areas while rimfire ammo shelves are swept clean each day, early in the morning by the same kind of folks that have already started to post on your thread. Lets hope they keep it up. It is very good for the economy and especially the ammo manufacturers and the middle-men in the distribution chain. They are laughing all the way to the bank.

12 posted on 02/18/2014 8:13:16 AM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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Buying it up to supply to the U.N. troops.


35 posted on 02/18/2014 9:31:43 AM PST by Old Yeller
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Well, y'all believe what ya want, but my skeptic hat still won't be going into storage anytime soon.


ps: kudos to those providing good info, regardless the article's veracity

44 posted on 02/18/2014 9:52:33 AM PST by tomkat
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Here’s one of the efforts of the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) toward background checks. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) is based in Newtown, Connecticut.

http://www.fixnics.org/factinfo.cfm

Also, it appeared that the NSSF should have known good and well about the anti-Second-Amendment background of Reed Exhibitions (of England) in advance. The information had even been posted to Wikipedia.

NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) Statement on the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2981411/posts


47 posted on 02/18/2014 10:17:13 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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As for the ammunition shortages, those are not caused by DHS. They're caused by the big media (sponsored by crooks), dishonest gougers and the following in political/regulator customers.

Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See Hysteric.] (Med.) A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women, in which the emotional and reflex excitability is exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished, so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into paroxism or fits. [1913 Webster] Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing, and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the throat. The affection presents the most varied symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment alone. Hysteric


49 posted on 02/18/2014 10:25:17 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Nachum
Little formatting corrrection here:

As for the ammunition shortages, those are not caused by DHS. They're caused by the big media (sponsored by crooks), dishonest gougers and the following in political/regulator customers.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
     Hysteric.] (Med.)
     A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
     in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
     exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
     so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
     the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
     paroxism or fits.
     [1913 Webster]
  
     Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
           the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
           and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
           throat. The affection presents the most varied
           symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
           diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
           alone. Hysteric




50 posted on 02/18/2014 10:26:53 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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I don’t buy that this is some sort of arming up of the government; beyond what ti normally does; which is too much, that’s another story, though.

I do firmly believe that this is an attempt, by the government to manipulate ammo supplies. The contracts that DHS signed are all the type where the government gets all the product coming off the line, before any other buyer. They executed these contracts, and will be for about 6 more years, IIRC, on a regular basis. They ARE buying larger than normal numbers and this has strained the civilian market. In other words, the ammo manufactures were at peak capacity supplying government contracts.

Luckily, they had the ability to expand production to meet the increased demands. From my reading it takes approximate 18 to 24 months for a manufacturer to significantly expand their manufacturing capacity. They simply don’t have the equipment lying around, and it has to actually be manufactured itself in many cases. The logistics of it all, coupled with the increased demand and panic buying made it extremely difficult for them to meet the new demands.

In the end, its been proven that through these contracts, the government can dry up the civilian ammo market, almost at will. Manufacturers are not going to maintain the extra equipment, in case of increased demand. It just isn’t cost effective. All the government has to do is exercise these types of contracts and boom, almost instant civilian ammo shortage.

Call me a nut job, too, if you wish. Upon examination, this is the only logical explanation I can come up with to explain the exact way this whole thing developed.


52 posted on 02/18/2014 10:36:21 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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>>Put simply, it’s the hoarders and speculators, not DHS, that is drying up ammunition supplies. <<

Never before in the history of mankind has there been a gun salesman that comes anywhere close to our pResident Obama. The man does have this one good quality about him that I keep forgetting. He is solely responsible for the arming of America. I hope the liberal historians include this in his biography.


57 posted on 02/18/2014 11:29:20 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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60 posted on 02/18/2014 11:33:46 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Nachum

Every time I read the word hoarder....


62 posted on 02/18/2014 11:39:29 AM PST by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence.)
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To: Nachum

So it’s simple really, there are just too many feds with guns.


65 posted on 02/18/2014 11:59:09 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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