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To: c-b 1

You should document & elaborate on what you discovered... Telling us about it won’t be enough...


42 posted on 02/18/2014 3:15:52 PM PST by bfh333 ("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
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The first thing I noticed was the statement that "Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court constantly violate the Constitution," so we have to add Ammendments to make them follow it. I have noticed that the "Bill of Rights is never mentioned by the COS People, Why do they avoid speaking about the First 10 Ammendments that expressly forbids the Government from intervening in, which are violated with impunity, quite regurlarly. How can adding more ammendments correct that?

I started my research about 6 weeks ago, my first stop was the Convention of States Website, I went to find the plan, and study it, I did not find any thing about a plan. What I found was a list of well known people who had endorsed their plan, and several articles, which I opened looking for the plan, In each of the three articles contained cynicism, name calling, and bashing of those who opposed the COS Plan,or said what was being proposed was a Constitutional Convention.

I then found a couple of articles with explinations of how this was not a Conswtitutional Convention, it was an Article V Convention of States. I then went to Article V, and studied it.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

Please note that the only place conventions of states is mentioned is in the Ratification process. I attended the first two COS webinars, there were lots of verbal gymnastice explaining how Article V says what it doesn't say. One of the questions from a caller was, "What is the difference between a Constitutional Convention, and a Convention of States?" The answer was, "a Constitutional Convention is for when the Constituton is to be scrapped, a Convention of States is to ammend the Constitution." Later the same question was asked by another caller, another member of the panel gave the same answer, both referencing Article V. Another question asked was "what protection do we have that bad ammendments will be added." the answer was "the ratification process will stop that from happening." I Immediately remembered that the 16th, Income Tax, the 17th Direct Election of Senators, the 18th Prohibition which was later repealed were all ratified by 3/4 of the State Legislatures.

The second webinar was obviously scripted, only questions favorable to the program were asked.

Need I add more?

52 posted on 02/18/2014 7:19:54 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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