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Florida Panthers ask for $86 million bailout to help pay for rent at BB&T Center
WPLG-TV ^ | 2/18/14

Posted on 02/19/2014 4:14:13 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

The Florida Panthers faced some high stakes Tuesday; not on the ice, but at Broward County Hall.

With opposition building against the Florida Panthers' request for $86 million for free rent at the county-owned BB&T Center in Sunrise, a majority of county commissioners made it clear at a workshop meeting Tuesday that they’re in favor of a major public giveaway to the hockey team.

New Florida Panthers hockey team owner Doug Cifu said he has no plans to move the team with or without the $86 million bailout he's asking from public, but that didn't stop Broward County Commissioner Marty Kiar from laying out a doomsday scenario if the county doesn’t vote in favor of the giveaway.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: corporatism; cronyism; nhl; taxpayers
Gimme......
1 posted on 02/19/2014 4:14:13 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

And in other news,different but in some ways similar the, Public unions in Chicago are saying that taxes need to go up so as to pay for the pension funds.

It seems to come down to the common denominator is that these people want “other people” to pay for their ‘needs’.


2 posted on 02/19/2014 4:20:49 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: SoFloFreeper

maybe if htey lowered their ticket prices then people would buy tickets.

nahh what am I saying. They can just get tax payers to foot the bill.


3 posted on 02/19/2014 4:21:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hockey man gonna be you boss


4 posted on 02/19/2014 4:22:12 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ironic, just saw an article online elsewhere of the former head coach and former Hartford Whaler player Kevin Dineen, who is coaching the Team USA winter olympics women’s team in Sochi and they are going for the gold.


5 posted on 02/19/2014 4:25:55 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I just need a $250,000 bailout. Where do I apply?


6 posted on 02/19/2014 4:29:11 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SoFloFreeper

What animated movie had those birds yelling,” mine, mine, mine?”


7 posted on 02/19/2014 4:32:14 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Commissioner Marty Kiar from laying out a doomsday scenario if the county doesn’t vote in favor of the giveaway”

Doomsday?


8 posted on 02/19/2014 4:35:28 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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To: freeangel

Finding Nemo, my kids love that one.

If that hockey team can’t make it go with sales and drawing fans out, it’s time to fold it up. This is ridiculous.


9 posted on 02/19/2014 4:38:14 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: freeangel

I think that was Finding Nemo.


10 posted on 02/19/2014 4:39:37 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Noble

-— Doomsday? -—

LOLZ. If we all just believe hard enough, we can get ice hockey in Florida to work.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 4:42:29 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Year after year the Panthers are at the bottom of the NHL standings if not at the bottom.
They make NO pretence of trying to get any better.
Just soak Sunrise City and Broward County for more and more.
I’ve been to several of their games and usually the visiting team has more fans rooting for them.
Let em move.
And let em take the Marlins with em.


12 posted on 02/19/2014 4:48:43 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Dolphins owner is kicking in $$ for Rick Scott’s campaign to get another stadium to replace SunLife/ProPlayer/Joe Robbie...

Panthers attendance is bad...they still offer $7 tickets and free parking?


13 posted on 02/19/2014 4:57:25 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I thought the Florida panthers were on the endangered species list. Or at least threatened. Now they’re doing the threatening? Ooops. Different panthers. ;>{)


14 posted on 02/19/2014 4:58:11 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Marty Kiar should feel free to dig into his own pocket to prevent the doomsday he expects to happen if the team that doesn't have anything to do with his county doesn't get their grift.
15 posted on 02/19/2014 4:59:22 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

SPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What’s more important to the peasantry?


16 posted on 02/19/2014 5:02:55 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Joe Boucher

“Year after year the Panthers are at the bottom of the NHL standings if not at the bottom.
They make NO pretence of trying to get any better.”

They made the playoffs the year before the lockout season. They signed a number of useful free agents and traded for a big contract in Campbell before that season.

Barkov, Huberdeau, Gudbranson and Bjugstad are the core of an improving team. They might not show it in the W-L record yet but if you watch their games you see the improvement going on. A few more years and this team will be making noise.

The financial issue is a real head-scratcher. A new owner, BLESSED by the NHL, all of a sudden has money issues? Not buying it. Sounds more like a negotiating ploy to me.

When this team is competitive it draws very well. It’s not Florida per se, the Tampa Bay Lightning are drawing fine since they are competitive. The Dolphins were buying large blocks of tickets to avoid a blackout and that when they started 3-0!

And the ability to sell tickets to other team’s fans should be a big benefit. But tickets in the top seats sometimes go for as low as $7 per ticket and the local TV contract is not the best in the league by far. But next year the Rogers Cable contract in Canada kicks in and they get a substantial increase in TV revenue. I suspect that the Broward County Commissioners are not exactly the sharpest knives in the draw when it comes to professional sports finances (although I believe the Dolphins are officially under their jurisdiction too since the stadium is in Miramar, so they should know better).


17 posted on 02/19/2014 5:04:56 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Joe Boucher

The premise for putting hockey in south Florida was all the displaced yankees would come out to see the games. That model has failed and all of the ice hockey teams in the southern US are semi-pro farm teams. I say move them to Canada where it’s the number one sport!


18 posted on 02/19/2014 5:11:47 AM PST by gr8eman (Neptune, Titan, stars don't frighten!)
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To: Biggirl
Ironic, just saw an article online elsewhere of the former head coach and former Hartford Whaler player Kevin Dineen, who is coaching the Team USA winter olympics women’s team in Sochi and they are going for the gold.

Actually, I think Katey Stone coaches Team USA, and Kevin Dineen coaches Team Canada, but I could be wrong.

19 posted on 02/19/2014 5:15:59 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: gr8eman

The only two real sucessful pro teams down in FL that did well has been the Dolphins and the Rays.


20 posted on 02/19/2014 5:21:08 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Mark17

Your right, Canadian women’s team.

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24378762/kevin-dineen-tabbed-to-take-over-canadas-womens-olympic-team


21 posted on 02/19/2014 5:24:40 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: gr8eman

The NHL moved or created teams in large markets to try to appeal to a biger populace
But if they throw out garbage teams eventually even the gullible public turns on em


22 posted on 02/19/2014 5:36:08 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Biggirl

“The only two real sucessful pro teams down in FL that did well has been the Dolphins and the Rays.”

The Rays attendance is pretty bad for a team that has been that good. It’s pretty much IMPOSSIBLE for an NFL team to lose money with those TV contracts.

In their first year the Marlins actually drew over 3 million in attendance. And when they are competitive they do draw well. It’s a fair-weather market town. If you win they come out (not a Heat ticket available) but if you lose you are ignored.

One thing that might do well is the new Miami MLS franchise; so many central and south Americans live in Miami.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 5:38:48 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Kansas City voters were asked to foot the bill for the Sprint Center with the claims that it would attract an NHL or NBA team. Well it didn’t...and as a venue is far more profitable than if it had. Without having to reserve 30 or 40 dated per year for a team, the Sprint Center has the flexibility to attract any show, concert, rodeo, what have you that it wants. It isn’t a drain on the taxpayers, they aren’t subsidizing a sports bazillionare, and it’s been a win-win all around.


24 posted on 02/19/2014 5:40:28 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SoFloFreeper

Paging Seattle... Please pick up the white courtesy phone...


25 posted on 02/19/2014 5:42:59 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hate to say it, but the Panthers hold all the cards here.

If the county gets too stubborn they’ll just end up holding the bag on 30 years worth of debt service on a big, empty building.

This is why these places should NOT be built at public expense.


26 posted on 02/19/2014 5:52:35 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeminoleCounty

? I heard that the Dolphins billionaire owner is OPPOSING the Republicans who squashed the idea of a taxpayer funded renovation.

I am very much opposed to the taxpayers fixing up Ross’s stadium. He can sell bonds, ask his “celebrity” minority owners for money, or go public with the Dolphins to fund any renovations.

No need to go hat in hand to the citizens. He is a BILLIONAIRE, after all.


27 posted on 02/19/2014 6:16:32 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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