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Rogers High student's tweet, Web boasts may draw felony charge (update)
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^
| February 18, 2014
| Paul Walsh and Paul Levy
Posted on 02/19/2014 8:02:13 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg
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To: Colonel_Flagg
"Let me ask you this, because this is what I'm wondering about in reading this story: is the appropriate remedy for damage to the teacher's reputation civil or criminal? Or both?"
Could be both. There are other postings that have not been identified by who yet that could also lead to charges and divided liability.
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:56:33 AM PST
by
Truth29
To: Manic_Episode
You equated the “crime” to rape. Don’t get pissy just because your words are now being used against you. You’re starting to sound just like the kid you think is to blame.
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:56:50 AM PST
by
Solson
(The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
To: Manic_Episode
You equated the “crime” to rape. Don’t get pissy just because your words are now being used against you. You’re starting to sound just like the kid you think is to blame.
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:56:51 AM PST
by
Solson
(The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
To: DManA
Yes, but he victimized himself as well as the teacher who has victimized no one. Hello?
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:56:58 AM PST
by
Manic_Episode
(GOP = The Whig Party)
To: Truth29
You make a good point in that the article does mention possible charges against the people who set up the ‘confessions’ site in the first place. To me, that would be the more appropriate remedy for a charge.
Someone else had already made the charge against the teacher and Sagehorn was replying to it. Doesn’t make any of it right, of course.
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:58:00 AM PST
by
Colonel_Flagg
(Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
To: Manic_Episode
He did not. He did nothing to the woman.
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:58:27 AM PST
by
DManA
To: DManA
What is being done to this kid is insane. To charge him with a felony is unconscionable.**************************
Agreed.
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:59:04 AM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Solson
I agree. The district is guilty of atrocious judgement.
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posted on
02/19/2014 8:59:58 AM PST
by
DManA
To: Solson
Let me type this real slow so you understand.
I made an absurd hyperbolic remark to illustrate the absurdity of blaming the victim.
Hyperbole. Look it up.
Ever listen to Rush? Hyperbole is a common debating tool.
Sorry it went over your head and caused confusion.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:00:49 AM PST
by
Manic_Episode
(GOP = The Whig Party)
To: DManA
You are simply obtuse. Be sure to stamp your foot hard when you make your absolute pronouncements.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:04:15 AM PST
by
Manic_Episode
(GOP = The Whig Party)
To: Colonel_Flagg
It’s interesting the name of the student is prominent in every story about this, but the identity of the teacher is not. I wonder why? Usually it’s the other way around.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:04:37 AM PST
by
Cyber Liberty
(H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
To: jocon307
Im very confused by this story, who reported this to the police in the first place is one question I have. Apparently the "teacher" is a minor or something. The coverage of this story is bass-ackwards.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:06:42 AM PST
by
Cyber Liberty
(H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
To: Manic_Episode
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:08:25 AM PST
by
DManA
To: Cyber Liberty
The teacher has a union backing her. The kid only has his parents.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:09:16 AM PST
by
DManA
To: Manic_Episode
Do you mean you made a comment like "Actually yes" to demonstrate the absurdity of being asked if you've had an affair with the teacher??
Point. Set. Match.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:10:24 AM PST
by
Solson
(The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
To: Solson
Did I defame an innocent 3rd party?
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:16:42 AM PST
by
Manic_Episode
(GOP = The Whig Party)
To: Cyber Liberty
If there is still an open personnel case here the identity of the teacher is probably protected by state law.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:23:55 AM PST
by
Colonel_Flagg
(Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
To: Manic_Episode
Did the student in a way that results in a felony of criminal libel? No f-ing way.
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:23:58 AM PST
by
Solson
(The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
To: Manic_Episode
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posted on
02/19/2014 9:25:47 AM PST
by
DManA
To: DManA
OTOH, if he says he had a sexual relationship with a teacher, and he didn’t, he is falsely accusing her of a felony or two, according to the laws of most states, jeopardizing her job, career, and reputation, potentially costing her tens of thousands in legal fees.
Some people say false rape accusations of specific individuals should be felonies, and I tend to agree. The student did not say the teacher raped him in those words; very few boys would, but he did in effect accuse her of statutory rape.
Perhaps if our schools and legal system operated more by commonsense and less by rigid policy, this big mouth would face the administrative and parental consequences of his big mouth, and there would be an end to it.
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