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Rankings put Cornyn as more conservative than Stockman
Dallas news ^ | Feb 6, 2014 | Todd J. Gillman

Posted on 02/21/2014 1:06:25 PM PST by Innovative

New rankings of lawmakers’ votes show that that Sen. John Cornyn ranks as more conservative among senators than Rep. Steve Stockman ranks in the House, despite the latter’s contention that Cornyn is too liberal:

How they rank: National Journal, a public-policy magazine, ranked all members of Congress on a conservative/liberal scale based on votes on key legislation in 2013. Cornyn ranked the 14th-most conservative of the 100 senators. Stockman ranked 138th among the 435 House members. He was behind all but two of the 24 Texas Republicans and in the middle of all House Republicans.

How it works: The particular issues that come up for a vote in any given year can contribute to fluctuations. Stockman ranked especially conservative on fiscal issues, but less so on social and foreign policy issues, which dragged down his composite score. Social policy was Cornyn’s most conservative category.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: conservatives; cornyn; nationaljournal; stockman
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For those who are interested in facts...
1 posted on 02/21/2014 1:06:25 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Do you really believe that?


2 posted on 02/21/2014 1:08:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Innovative
Too bad, so sad. People are pissed at Cornyn, and motivated to vote in the primary against him.

I've worked hard on the ground to get Cornyn fired, and it will be good to see him gone.

/johnny

3 posted on 02/21/2014 1:10:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Innovative

IBTZ


4 posted on 02/21/2014 1:12:05 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Innovative

John Cornyn ranked second most conservative senator in 2012

5 posted on 02/21/2014 1:12:05 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

They also claim that Paul Broun is less conservative than Jack Kingston. Anyone who believes that will believe anything.


6 posted on 02/21/2014 1:12:11 PM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Innovative
The man who ran the NRSC and his top three candidates left the party?

John Cornyn, the Specter/Crist/Chafee Republican who deliberately tanked the 2010 Senate election, so the republicans wouldn't win?

Even if by some stretch of science fiction that were true, it would still be worth it to get rid of Cornyn, since he is a fifth columnist working for the Democrats.

99 Senators are less dangerous to our country than he is.

7 posted on 02/21/2014 1:12:35 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Innovative

Cornyn worked against Tea Party people at every turn behind the scenes, as chairman of the GOP Senatorial Committee. He loathes us. Bob


8 posted on 02/21/2014 1:12:57 PM PST by alstewartfan (The dawn is turning away The ghost of Charlotte Corday. Al Stewart)
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To: TADSLOS

“IBTZ”

Why? posting factual information about the 2nd most conservative Senator in Congress is now deserving of a zot?


9 posted on 02/21/2014 1:13:42 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Give me a break!


10 posted on 02/21/2014 1:14:19 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Innovative

Do you want to break down those numbers? I have looked at those votes before, and I don’t think 100% means conservative. They include all kinds of terrible votes.


11 posted on 02/21/2014 1:14:52 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Innovative

I wonder how “conservative on foreign policy issues” is defined. Even people on this site seem to differ.


12 posted on 02/21/2014 1:15:11 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Innovative

Easy enough: voting for Stovall, anyway.

Corn Row must Go!


13 posted on 02/21/2014 1:15:22 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Innovative

You’ll be ozone dust soon enough, then you can devote your full attention to licking Karl Rove’s whiteboard.


14 posted on 02/21/2014 1:15:50 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: nickcarraway
Yeah, the National Journal factual and unbiased . . .


15 posted on 02/21/2014 1:17:12 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Innovative

How is it factual to print meaningless numbers the left wing media. Those numbers have no meaning. You are hiding his actual votes or what he stands for.


16 posted on 02/21/2014 1:18:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Innovative

Brendan, Brendan Steinhauser? Nice to see you posting on FR!


17 posted on 02/21/2014 1:20:15 PM PST by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Olog-hai

You think Cornyn is good?


18 posted on 02/21/2014 1:20:26 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: MeanWestTexan
I'm pushing for a Stoval/Stockman run-off election, with Cornyn not invited to play.

/johnny

19 posted on 02/21/2014 1:20:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Innovative
Here are the 117 Senate Votes which the National Journal used to rate the Senators and
the 111 House votes used to rate the Representatives.

Key Votes Used to Calculate the Ratings -- 2013


20 posted on 02/21/2014 1:23:36 PM PST by deport
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To: nickcarraway

I sure don’t trust the National Journal. And my opinion of RINOs is quite low, Cornyn being one.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 1:24:52 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Innovative

That’s some funny $hit right there.


22 posted on 02/21/2014 1:25:06 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Innovative
If Cornyn is more conservative than Stockman...

Then Harry Reid is more conservative than Stockman...

"in the rankings!"

23 posted on 02/21/2014 1:26:37 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Innovative

Yeah sure...so it wasn’t Cornyn who voted for cloture to raise the debt ceiling? Right?


24 posted on 02/21/2014 1:26:49 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: alstewartfan
"Cornyn worked against the Tea Party at every turn behind the scenes"

That's all we need to know about him. He's chosen sides against the Constitution and against the people. It doesn't matter what his past record has been. He's proved that he can no longer be trusted.

25 posted on 02/21/2014 1:27:04 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Innovative
Since you are promoting this evil man, can you explain how he was the head of the Republican Senatorial campaign and the 2 candidates he funneled the most money to left the Republican Party.

Do you have a chart that shows Arlen Specter and Charlie Crist are the most conservative Senator and governor ever? (Was Murkowski no. 3)

26 posted on 02/21/2014 1:27:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Innovative

Those #s don’t really tell you much. Guess who the same National Journal had as the #1 most conservative Senator in 2010?

John McCain.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/mccain-s-shift-makes-him-senate-s-most-conservative-20110224

Now, I don’t think anyone would say he’s the most conservative.

What happens is you have guys coming up for re-election, like McCain in 2010, and now Cornyn in 2012-13 who see which way the wind is blowing and know they have to move to the right to fend off primary challenges.

Where was Cornyn in say 2008-10?

In 2011 he was the 14th most conservative, just ahead of McCain who astonishingly went from being the most conservative in 2010 to the 16th most conservative in 2011.

In 2009 he was the 12th most conservative.


27 posted on 02/21/2014 1:28:41 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: Timber Rattler
Hell, they didn't raise the debt ceiling, they got rid of it entirely. That's what liberal republicans do for the nation.

/johnny

28 posted on 02/21/2014 1:28:42 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Innovative

And the National Journal is always my go to source for any information about conservatives


29 posted on 02/21/2014 1:29:27 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Innovative

“Facts” (from the comments)

Below are Senator Cornyn’s votes if they look conservative to any of you.

Voted to fund Obamacare against Cruz
Cornyn’s “Bloomberg Bill” could take away the gun rights of hundreds of thousands
Voted for Walls Street Bailout
Voted to raise debt ceiling eight times
Cornyn introduced an amnesty bill in 2005 (s1348) that would give amnesty to illegals
Voted for the fiscal cliff tax hike
Voted multiple times against fiscally conservative budgets proposed by Senator Rand Paul, Senator Mike Lee and others that could have saved trillions for the American taxpayers

Below is Stockmans Votes and Positions:

Voted to defund Obamacare
Never voted for a tax increase
Worked with Rand Paul, and introduced “Restore The Constitution Act.” for “Separation of Powers Restoration and Second Amendment Protection Act.”
Worked to create jobs by expediting building permits for new plant construction, promoting energy independence, working on keeping power costs low and fighting to keep government out of private sector


30 posted on 02/21/2014 1:30:16 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Innovative

Oh that and soooo very much more

Your idea of ‘factual’ is wanting


31 posted on 02/21/2014 1:31:09 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Innovative; All
Never forget...!

Cornyn, NRSC, Establishment GOP Betraying Miller Campaign

32 posted on 02/21/2014 1:32:02 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Olog-hai
I have to completely disagree with you. It is unfair to call Cornyn a RINO. He's much worse than a RINO.

In 2008, he was the head of the Republican Senatorial Campaign and his work was at best incompetent.

He did it again in 2010 and he completely sabotaged the Republican effort. The GOP would have had at least 50 seats in the Senate without Cornyn working behind the scenes to prevent it.

How do you explain how he funneled the most money to senate candidates that became Democrats. And Cornyn was supporting them even after they switched.

33 posted on 02/21/2014 1:32:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Innovative

They done count closure votes. He allows closure then votes against what he allows. Oh I voted against raising the debt limits. Yea right.


34 posted on 02/21/2014 1:33:30 PM PST by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: Innovative

And here are some true facts that actually mean something

“Bradley was born in Washington, D.C.[2] and attended the Sidwell Friends School. His parents were devout Christian Scientists.[1] He graduated from Swarthmore College and briefly interned in the White House during the presidency of Richard Nixon. He received a Master of Business Administration from Harvard Business School and was also a Fulbright Scholar in the Philippines.[2] Bradley earned a J.D. from Georgetown University Law Center in 1983.
Bradley is brother to Barbara Bradley Hagerty, NPR Religion Correspondent and author of Fingerprints of God: In Search of the Science of Spirituality.”

That is the owner and driver of the NJ and Atlantic Media. You have a flaming lefty telling you who is conservative. Are you a loon or a troll?


35 posted on 02/21/2014 1:34:08 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Timber Rattler

BUMP


36 posted on 02/21/2014 1:34:47 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Innovative

National Journal is a hard-left news outlet that’s part of The Atlantic Media group, and uses its moniker’s similarity to the National Review to fool dumbasses like you. Check out their editorial staff, fool.


37 posted on 02/21/2014 1:34:57 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Hell, they didn't raise the debt ceiling, they got rid of it entirely. That's what liberal republicans do for the nation.
/johnny

That's called being "Innovative", JR. You know...."pragmatic and realistic"....' cause that's how the libs keep winning their popularity contests....with bread and circuses.

38 posted on 02/21/2014 1:35:07 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Nifster
It's a GOP-E troll. It's posting history shows that it's a troll.

/johnny

39 posted on 02/21/2014 1:36:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Innovative
For those who are interested in facts...

Do you mean facts as in RINOS pushing to get cloture so a bad bill will be passed, then try to tell us they voted against it? Does Cornyn have any similar "conservative" items in his record? Does his conservative record contain any hypocritical "conservative" votes where he also worked behind the scenes to stab constituents in the eye? Do you think he deserves to be kept in power?

40 posted on 02/21/2014 1:37:14 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Innovative

Don’t see Jeff Sessions on the list, always thought that he and DeMint were the most consrveative Senators


41 posted on 02/21/2014 1:44:22 PM PST by indyreb
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To: Innovative

Facts from the National Journal? These are the same hacks that listed
McCain as the most conservative GOP member in 2010. Just because
NJ says it does not make it so.


42 posted on 02/21/2014 1:44:51 PM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: nickcarraway

He still bears the name “Republican”, so RINO still applies as a start at least. Other epithets can follow from that, such as traitor to conservatives as you point out.


43 posted on 02/21/2014 1:53:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: TADSLOS

Dittoes on the IBTZ.

This troll was shilling earlier today for Thomas Sowell and his many tirades against Ted Cruz.

Now he’s coming up with this laughable (and discredited) crap for Cornyn?

IBTZ.


44 posted on 02/21/2014 1:53:14 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Innovative

You wouldn’t know a “fact” if it kicked you in the behind. Facts, to you, are anything you say they are.


45 posted on 02/21/2014 1:55:34 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: indyreb

Jeff Sessions and Vitter have been fighting Rubiocare for over a year.

Sessions and Vitter are not at the top because they probably vote for some flood insurance bills.

They also rank all issues equally. Whether it is a flood bill or a $6 Trillion amnesty.

Lou Barletta has 60 or 70% conservative rating but he will never vote to create 12 million Democrats. The opposite is true of Gowdy and Labrador.

The NRA rating Harry Reid and Sharon Angle as equally likely to support gun control.

Stockman pointed to one poll, maybe it was Heritage Action who had Cruz and Stockman 1 and 2 in the delegation.

Steve King votes for wind, ethanol and farm bill but relative to his constituents he is pretty conservative.


46 posted on 02/21/2014 2:09:47 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Innovative
John Cornyn claims to be the 2nd most conservative member of the Senate.

Yet, as Chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, he
hand-selected these "Republican" candidates:
  • Arlen Specter - Democrat
  • Charlie Crist - Democrat
  • Lincoln Chafee - Democrat
  • Lisa Murkowski - Independent

Also, when he had a chance to stop ObamaCare by supporting Ted Cruz' filibuster

he FAILED

and hid behind a meaningless vote later.

He pulled the same trick on the Senate amnesty bill
and again on raising the debt limit.

47 posted on 02/21/2014 2:12:44 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Innovative
For those who are interested in facts...

But only selected facts, not the bigger picture including procedural votes, support of moderates/liberals over conservatives...

48 posted on 02/21/2014 2:15:48 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: beandog

He posts this crap then runs away and crystal like a little baby.
Too gutless to hang around and defend his post, I guess that’s what trolls do.


49 posted on 02/21/2014 2:15:58 PM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I voted for Stovall yesterday. It felt good!


50 posted on 02/21/2014 2:20:45 PM PST by dandiegirl
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