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NFL could introduce 15-yard penalty for racial slur: Report
Toronto Sun ^ | Feb. 21, 2014 | QMI AGENCY

Posted on 02/22/2014 6:46:11 AM PST by rickmichaels

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To: Truth29
This would only be the first. You can come up with a lot of other groups who will want equal standing.

Exactly, esp sodomites. But meanwhile they have no problem with profaning the name of the Lord, and even if they did then the courts would disallow them from doing so!

141 posted on 02/22/2014 2:14:48 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: mrsmel

Knew that was coming; figures.


142 posted on 02/22/2014 2:37:17 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Carry me back
What hasn't the left infiltrated? I used to love country music-still do love the classic sounds and musicians-but now it's nothing but a shallow hodgepodge of glitzy acts and pretty faces, who represent nothing that country was ever about, including the authenticity, the concerns of the working and middle classes, and a voice for adults when rock was the voice of the kids.

When I paid attention, which is seldom, I vaguely thought that the present sad state of country was just another sign of the times and the pandering to "the kids" (those same kids which the left would like to deny the chance to ever even exist, btw). But now-tin foil hat on-I wonder if there hasn't been some conscious effort by the left to infiltrate and destroy from within (recognise the familiar MO?) one of the remaining popular bastions of conservative expression. I know that country artists were buying into leftist memes from way back, but I don't think that then, it was a conscious decision to turn country as a genre, to the left. Now it's not just the lyrics, now the actual music bears no resemblance to the sound of country.

There is nothing of the right, however coincidental the resemblance, which the left will not either destroy outright or through infiltration. Infiltration is even better than destruction because then they can use the entity to their own purposes
143 posted on 02/22/2014 3:47:26 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel
If we are thinking of the same case, the man in question managed to keep his job because he was gay. Gay trumps black.

Obviously the facts of the matter (the actual origin of the word "niggardly") don't matter--it's whether someone is offended because the word is perceived to be racist.

144 posted on 02/22/2014 3:49:23 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: detective

I think that that is covered by the backfield in motion penalty...


145 posted on 02/22/2014 3:50:21 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

As Steve Sailor says, always look for the “who-whom”, as well as following the money.


146 posted on 02/22/2014 3:50:27 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: xrmusn

“In baseball, anyone who would DARE make the ‘sign of the Cross’ or ‘blow a kiss towards heaven’ would be suspended indefinitely.”

In baseball, anyone who would dare to make the choke sign while performing a fruity prancing dance down to first after drawing a walk would get creamed. Nobody wants 90+ anywhere much less their lips. That’s why they don’t do it.

NFL has no self policing from other players, so you get gyrating hulk posturing and chest thumping from 300lb+ behemoths after they happen to fall on a loose ball. NFL need some way for the players to self police the jerks, not rules suitable for 4 year olds.

Freegards


147 posted on 02/22/2014 4:14:04 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

Please understand I was being very facetious and dripping with sarcasm.
We know Baseball has the idiotic brushback rule - which while may be necessary in most circumstances the umpires use it much like grade school punishes a kid for drawing a picture of a gun.

It is going to get worse now that they are attempting to avoid collisions at home plate...I can see ‘going after a slider’ if he is going after the catcher intentionally, much the same if a slider goes out of the base line and does a ‘barrel roll’ into the infielder covering the base.

In Bryce Harpers rookie year Cole Hamels not only hit him intentionally BUT admitted it.

On the HBP at bat, Harper stole home and the next at bat he attempted to bunt....Harper is a roll back to the P Rose days (Rose would probably be ‘banned’ today) and I had the feeling that when he attempted to bunt up the 1st base line that he wanted to run up Hamels’ back in the process.

THAT is payback, especially when his pitchers can’t retaliate.


148 posted on 02/22/2014 5:25:14 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --When you have them by the short hairs, the minds and hearts soon follow.)
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To: xrmusn

Right, I was just pointing out the inherent difference between the two sports and players self-policing players or not.

NFL only has 16 games in the regular season, MLB has 162. All the warnings that umps issue now does mess it up a little, but it still works. Doesn’t have to be the same offending player, doesn’t have to be the same series, and all the players know it. Same thing with pitchers DHed or pinched for. So even the rest of the players on the jerk’s team tell him to quit being a jerk.

In the NFL the modern officiating and the penalty system, multiple reviewable camera angles, and each game being so important makes sending messages much more risky as far as wins and losses. Thus choke signs and chest thumping dog squeeze on even marginally important plays.

Completely agree about Harper looking to run Hamels over, nothing but hard nosed play that I have seen so far. Some mistakes occasionally but you get that from any young player. I actually saw that game on MASN. Pretty amazing. He ran on the throw over to first. I hope the Nats can do what they are capable of doing this year. New manager seems like he is no joke.

Freegards


149 posted on 02/22/2014 5:54:05 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: mrsmel

I’m not sure about country music. I do listen to it but you would probably know better than I. I do agree that the left or those who control govt and the money system, the left. Have a plan to infiltrate and bring down the majority or the right. They have neutralized the right, the whites from being able to speak what they believe, or want with all the labeling, homophobic, racist ect. Imo the left has used govt to send govt agents into the republican party at every level to control the party . Jmo


150 posted on 02/22/2014 6:00:23 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: mrsmel

I think it’s very likely the left is taking over the NFL or wants to. They want to control everything, they are anti freedom. Freedom is a threat to the super rich.


151 posted on 02/22/2014 6:13:39 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: Ransomed

Some mistakes occasionally but you get that from any young player.
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Don’t know if you saw the game that Harper tried to ‘run’ through the scoreboard.

After looking at many replays, I think he was disoriented as he seemed to ‘pause’ prior the collision.

At the time, I thought he had been ‘lasered’ but he never seemed to publicly indicate it and I am sure that his eyes were tested also...

Don’t know if he wears contacts or not but I do know that after my cataract surgery I seemed to lose a little in peripheral vision but a LOT in depth perception.

BTW, FWIW, I did sort of misread your first response to me...I didn’t put the ‘fruitily prancing down the baseline’ in the right concept???.
I can just imagine Don Drysdale or Vic Raschi or Sal Maglie’s reaction the next time a batter came up that has been skipping and sashaying down the first base line....

Puts a whole new concept to ‘Stick it in his ear’.... and in Maglies case, giving a ‘close shave’....


152 posted on 02/22/2014 6:40:56 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --When you have them by the short hairs, the minds and hearts soon follow.)
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To: xrmusn

I did see that game. Complete puckerage was occurring on my part until he got up. I think it was just that electronic ad bar covered in the chain link, couldn’t tell how close he was. It definitely wasn’t a hustle error, some sort of perception mistake. I mean wasn’t he looking right at it? It’s lucky that big melon of his didn’t destroy it in a shower of electrical sparks.

Yes, the NFL needs some sort of thing to allow for the Drysdale effect, or Gibson. Would make it a lot more watchable, at least for me. The warnings given in MLB now do really put the kibosh on pitching inside. A shame, but pitching is becoming dominant now again, a combo of good and plentiful relief pitching and better PED testing maybe.

FReegards


153 posted on 02/22/2014 6:57:43 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

but pitching is becoming dominant now again, a combo of good and plentiful relief pitching and better PED testing maybe.
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Right on about the dominant pitching.
My grandson StL fan and I had told him early last year that the year of the starting pitcher will be gone before long, the teams will get someone to go 3 strong innings (much like a junk pitcher in HS - get through the lineup and we will take it from there) then end up with a string of 4-6 hard throwers, get a couple innings out of them every other day or so....
Will cut back on salaries for awhile.
Actually the Nationals were close to that last year, Storen 7th, Clippard 8th and Soriano 9th(UGH)..(thought that was a bad move ALSO think Lombo leaving bad)...
Then St Louis had a bunch of young Turks with strong arms, good K-BB ratio and speed.


154 posted on 02/22/2014 7:58:57 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --When you have them by the short hairs, the minds and hearts soon follow.)
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To: xrmusn

“...that the year of the starting pitcher will be gone before long, the teams will get someone to go 3 strong innings (much like a junk pitcher in HS - get through the lineup and we will take it from there) then end up with a string of 4-6 hard throwers, get a couple innings out of them every other day or so....”

I’ve heard that idea, it sounds great on paper. Maybe it could work, pitchers sure are better the least amount of times through the line up. It could be the average relief pitcher is good enough to make it work, but the problem is that most of these flame throwing 95+ relievers are being groomed for three outs right from the get go. You don’t see many long relievers usually throwing that hard or being that effective, on the other hand they are usually only used when you have to use them as a last resort today. It would probably have to be an iffy team, like the Rockies tried to do.

Lombo was a gritty player, I really dug him. But man Fister is 9th in WAR among any starting pitcher for the last three years. That’s better than any of the Nats starters. With a 90 mph fastball. It’s that sinker and change, they just beat the ball into the ground.

FReegards


155 posted on 02/22/2014 8:46:02 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

I just looked it up, his fastball is 88.9 mph, throws it 51% of the time. Pretty wild.

Freegards


156 posted on 02/22/2014 8:49:38 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

Lombo was a gritty player, I really dug him
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Excellent description for a ‘jack of all trades’ Not quite good enough to be a super star but having the heart, being teachable and talented enough to play 3 positions ‘good’ and maybe 3 adequately, can be around for a long time...
My grandson is a decent ball player but no power hitter and - like me - probably will never be. His father and older brother are ‘sluggers’ and I keep trying to get him to tighten his stance, choke up, excel at bunting, and be a ‘banjo hitter’...like I tell him and his ‘like’ friends...get up there and concentrate on singles, once the balls start dropping and you get a little bat control, the doubles will come and occasionally one will hit the ‘sweet spot’ and you may get a ‘tater.
He is a Junior in HS and getting better bat control and wants to go ‘further’....I think he has a shot as long as he keeps thinking ‘small’...good attitude, smart base running, talk it up and be versatile...he was a pretty fair C a few years ago (if I may say) and last year the C went down and ‘BEFORE I could get to him - he volunteered to catch. The coaches hadn’t seen him catch and he (GS) came over to me and asked me to ‘talk to them’ and the lad finished out the season Catching. (funny- we know how coaches ‘treat’ the ‘helpful’ parents but I get along with the JV and V coaches...probably more out of ‘respect’ for my age (HA) but I am somewhat knowledgeable and will ‘get on my GS’ case when he is wrong...AND he seeks me out for advice on occasion....(shocking isn’t it...)
It probably cost him a V promotion in mid season but I would have rather have him playing JV as a Soph than sitting on the V...
He will return to his 3B/SS duties but at least now they know he can catch...has good ‘follow the ball instincts’ so he may get a little further up the line....
He also a fair P, (going back to run the lineup), but he rightfully doesn’t want to get into the ‘I am a Pitcher’ and hardly ever get to see the field other than pitching.

Well it won’t be long now, HS starts March 12 or so and Nats in April....


157 posted on 02/22/2014 10:46:13 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --When you have them by the short hairs, the minds and hearts soon follow.)
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To: xrmusn

Wow good luck to you and yours with all that! I think contact guys are almost sure to make a comeback eventually. Guys like Lombo are pretty rare now, at least on a team like the Nats. Almost nobody chokes up after 2 strikes nowadays, strike outs are WAAAAY up in MLB over the last 10 years, as is average fast ball velocity.

Freegards


158 posted on 02/23/2014 7:28:39 AM PST by Ransomed
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