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To: Talisker

you forget that in heaven, we will be made perfect and we will no longer have a sin nature, we will not desire to do the things that we knew were wrong to enjoy while we were alive on earth as a sinner/saint. The struggles we have to fight our “old man” won’t occur because that part of us will be gone, and it will be an answer to our prayers and we will no longer have to fight against bad urges and desires.

as far as discipline goes there will be none because there won’t be a need for it. nobody who’s been cleansed and made perfect will need it because they will not have a sin nature anymore to be tempted and sin.

Given your posts you seem to have a very negative view on heaven and the afterlife. Maybe if you start out with the mindset/reference frame that God loves us, and is on our side, and give Him the benefit of the doubt, and you might as well as so far in your existence has He killed you? - instead of starting from a negative frame of reference focused on punishment and never-ending judgment (which is not what He’s all about), you might realize some different conclusions.


39 posted on 02/25/2014 3:01:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Given your posts you seem to have a very negative view on heaven and the afterlife. Maybe if you start out with the mindset/reference frame that God loves us, and is on our side, and give Him the benefit of the doubt, and you might as well as so far in your existence has He killed you? - instead of starting from a negative frame of reference focused on punishment and never-ending judgment (which is not what He’s all about), you might realize some different conclusions.

LOL. I argue that hell cannot be infinite, because God's love is infinite, and I "seem to have a very negative view on heaven and the afterlife"? And that is "starting from a negative frame of reference focused on punishment and never-ending judgment"? WTF? My entire position is exactly opposite of what you are talking about - specifically opposite.

LOL, whatever. Have your fun. After all, it's not like there are any spiritual reprecusions to creating FUD around God's love, right?

Go for it.

41 posted on 02/25/2014 3:20:30 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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