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Arizona Nursing Student Sues After Being Suspended for Requesting Instruction in ENGLISH
Top Right News ^ | 02-24-2014 | Brian Hayes

Posted on 02/24/2014 7:00:14 PM PST by montag813

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by Brian Hayes | Top Right News

As if it isn’t enough we have to battle BOTH parties to keep tens of millions of illegal invaders from being handed amnesty, we also have to fight just to maintain our common language. And as with the La Raza Studies battle in Tucson, Arizona is once again the battlefield.

An Arizona college is being sued for labeling a student a “bigot” and punishing her with a long-term suspension after she requested that English be used in her nursing studies class so she could learn the subject.

The action was filed against Pima Community College on behalf of student Terri Bennett, who alleged that school officials created a “learning environment [that] was hostile to her as an English-language speaker.”

The case will proceed to trial in March.

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If she paid for instruction in English, there's a tort in there somewhere.

On the other hand, Spanish isn't that difficult to learn. It's a shame classical education has gone by the wayside. Latin gives you a door to the romance languages.

/johnny

2 posted on 02/24/2014 7:14:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

So what are the patients suppose to do, hire translators to translate what the nurse says, when the ones who can only speak Spanish work mainly at English speaking Hospitals?Should I take it these are dreamers be given - access to patients personal information ??


3 posted on 02/24/2014 7:27:53 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: JRandomFreeper
On the other hand, Spanish isn't that difficult to learn. It's a shame classical education has gone by the wayside. Latin gives you a door to the romance languages.

I would suggest you read the article. She was called a "bigot" and a "b*tch" and told she was "discriminating against Mexican-Americans". Awful stuff.

4 posted on 02/24/2014 7:31:41 PM PST by montag813
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To: moonshinner_09
Cross-border language issues are not new.

People do eventually adjust.

I have yet to meet a frenchman that doesn't speak a little bit of german.

/johnny

5 posted on 02/24/2014 7:31:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: montag813
That's a tort. That's why she's filing a civil action against the school.

/johnny

6 posted on 02/24/2014 7:33:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Spanish wouldnt be in my top 10

Why should I learn the language of invaders?


7 posted on 02/24/2014 7:37:30 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Latin gives you a door to the romance languages.”

Latin is the language of most everything medical, the bones in our bodies, etc.


8 posted on 02/24/2014 7:40:43 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: GeronL
If you know Latin, you've pretty much got spanish.

/johnny

9 posted on 02/24/2014 7:41:27 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: George from New England
My grandfather considered me illiterate because even though I had English, French, Spanish, and Latin... I didn't have Greek.

As I said, a classical education goes a long way.

I wish I had a complete one.

/johnny

10 posted on 02/24/2014 7:43:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I speak American! and a smattering of Korean.

I do know what a fajita is and how to say “fajita, por favor”


11 posted on 02/24/2014 7:48:57 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I really hope there's more to the story than this. I'm frankly amazed that a comunity college (a community college?!?!) would go to all this trouble. .

That said, on the issue of learning Spanish. We can bury our heads in the sand, or we can do all we can to ensure our kids have as much of a future as this country -- whatever it will be -- allows.

My kids WILL learn Spanish.

12 posted on 02/24/2014 7:49:31 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: GeronL

by “smattering” I mean what I picked up from watching shows with subtitles.


13 posted on 02/24/2014 7:50:04 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Call the White House and complain. Be sure to press 2 for English!


14 posted on 02/24/2014 7:50:37 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GeronL; JRandomFreeper
> Spanish wouldn't be in my top 10

Mine either.
When I got back from basic-training and started college, I took Japanese as my foreign language instead of the usual Spanish or German.

> Why should I learn the language of invaders?

Good question — it might make it easier for intel gathering when/if the invasion goes hot.

15 posted on 02/24/2014 7:51:31 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The French know English.

Every one of them.

They will not speak it. And they are nice to Americans who speak French. I know from experience.

And they despise Americans who won’t even try to say “Merci”.

We hate them for it, but, as you say, French is not that hard to learn, so I always speak French whenever I am in France and I speak German whenever I am in Germany, and I speak English when I am here. It’s not that hard to learn.

But there is no way I am learning another language to get along in my own country, I don’t care if I do live in wimpy give away our language borders and culture texas. It is not right.

it’s not that hard to

They have maintained their culture around that. Having given over to the Muslims, I can’t speak to except to say birth control culture has a price, as Pope Paul warned their Catholic butts a long time ago, as he did ours.


16 posted on 02/24/2014 7:52:58 PM PST by stanne
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To: GeronL
Provincial twit.

A very basic understanding of the language should cover:

Where is the bathroom?
More beer!
How much for your daughter?
Hello.
Goodbye
Thank You!

And of course, Oh s***!

/johnny

17 posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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I know spanish, I just don’t let on that I know it. There are a lot of hispanic people wondering why their employment status suddenly changed.


18 posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:38 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: stanne
I don’t care if I do live in wimpy give away our language borders and culture texas.

The first Christian language in Texas was Spanish. We did take the Republic from Mexico.

There has long been that stress in Texas. Most Texas patriots did speak at least some Spanish.

That said, I listen more than I speak in all languages.

/johnny

19 posted on 02/24/2014 8:04:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
If a nurse does not understand English then she can not understand what the majority of this country would be telling her as patients.

This is stupid to the point of absurdity.

20 posted on 02/24/2014 8:07:50 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am surprised at your attitude.


21 posted on 02/24/2014 8:10:48 PM PST by stanne
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To: oldenuff2no
she can not understand what the majority of this country would be telling her as patients.

That might not be true in that part of Arizona.

Lots of places in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona that you don't hear much English.

It's always been that way, since Spain owned this ground.

/johnny

22 posted on 02/24/2014 8:12:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Where is the bathroom?
pronunced something like Yogsil (bathroom) Hwangjangsil (toilet)

More beer! maegju/makju
How much for your daughter?
(dang!)

Hello.

Annyeong! or formal Annyeong hasayo

Goodbye

Annyeonghi formal add: gaseyo

Thank You!
kamsahamnida

or just gomawo ! thanks!

....

Give me: Jusayo (just point, lol)


23 posted on 02/24/2014 8:13:35 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: stanne
What attitude? The recognition that Spanish has been spoken in Texas and New Mexico and Arizona much longer than English?

That's just reality.

I think that multiple languages are divisive, and not optimal, but that's got nothing to do with truth on the ground.

English is the common language of the world today. It's not spoken everywhere. I'll cope.

/johnny

24 posted on 02/24/2014 8:16:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: workerbee

So you will have your children learn Mexican?? Because Spain is not taking over our country. Mexican Spanish is different than European Spanish (which is taught in most high schools).

If you really want your children to be able to surrender you probably ought to have them learn some version of Cantonese


25 posted on 02/24/2014 8:18:38 PM PST by Nifster
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To: JRandomFreeper
The first Christian language in Texas was Spanish. We did take the Republic from Mexico.

Golly gee.
I learn something new every day.
I wasn't aware that the Republic of Texas ever "belonged" to Mexico.
In fact, if history serves me, during that unsettled period, it wasn't clear who represented "Mexico."

26 posted on 02/24/2014 8:18:44 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Tell that to the Pima Community College people so intolerant of English, as many are around Texas. It’s a waste of time with me. I see the intolerance.


27 posted on 02/24/2014 8:20:54 PM PST by stanne
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To: publius911
Mexico had a claim on it via Spain. It was Spanish territory. We fought Mexico and took it. We didn't fight Spain. That's pretty clear representation.

/johnny

28 posted on 02/24/2014 8:26:27 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stanne
And she's suing over it. We've got a mechanism to redress this wrong. It's in process.

I'm not saying it's right.

/johnny

29 posted on 02/24/2014 8:28:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s an outrageous situation and she is the only one I can see around doing anything about it. I see these outrages every day. The local shopkeepers, the High school exams for our kids, college entry preferences,

Pshaw.

I choose to not rationalize it. It is an outrage. When I went to nursing school I learned to be a nurse and I was busy with 24 credits a semester, not busy in court fighting for my rights to speak my own language.


30 posted on 02/24/2014 8:35:50 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
The local shopkeepers, the High school exams for our kids, college entry preferences,

With local shop-keepers, if they won't speak English, don't patronize them.

High School exams are in English. In some cases, they may be in Spanish for English as a second language students.

Texas fought a lawsuit on college preferences, and the anti-majority bias got hit hard with that.

It's not as bleak as you imagine.

And American culture is subverting theirs, too. I know parents that complain their kids only speak English, and not the language of the old country.

My grandkids can barely speak Cambodian. The other grandparents complain.

/johnny

31 posted on 02/24/2014 8:46:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If you think American Culture in America is subverting a foreign culture, we are done here.


32 posted on 02/24/2014 8:50:46 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
America will assimilate them. We will add/have added parts of their culture to ours.

Name a single American cultural food.

Not hot dogs.

Not apple pie

Not Hamburger (minced meat on a kaiser roll).

Not tacos.

Not BBQ.

Not Italian.

Not Chinese.

Possum stew... maybe.

Americans did reject the Nordic fermented shark thing....

/johnny

33 posted on 02/24/2014 8:59:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Chop Suey is an American invention. There wasn’t any Chinese counterpart of that.

Fortune cookies, too.


34 posted on 02/24/2014 9:00:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

And mincemeat on a Kaiser roll, who ever thought that up. Is it lunch or is it dessert?


35 posted on 02/24/2014 9:03:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Nifster
If you really want your children to be able to surrender you probably ought to have them learn some version of Cantonese

In the 70s when I was in grade school, everyone warned us that the Japanese would own all the real estate. "Learn Japanese!" was the warning. Such with Chinese/Cantonese/Mandarin.

Those of us living out there, and not being ostriches, know that it's in our childrens' best interest to learn Spanish. It doesn't mean "surrender." It means understanding reality.

36 posted on 02/24/2014 9:07:27 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Nifster
Mexican Spanish is different than European Spanish

It's all vulgar Latin.

And it's not that different. I was formally taught Castilian spainish, but I get along in Texas restaurant kitchens just fine.

/johnny

37 posted on 02/24/2014 9:13:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: montag813

Nice catch from the nOOb pimp who posted the same article just before your post.


38 posted on 02/24/2014 9:15:32 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: JRandomFreeper

America will assimilate them? Not the other way around? Oh boy. I do think this conversation is over. Let’s drop it.

Where I come from, there were many people who came from old countries and were very appreciative to have a hope for a good life, and made it work.

They spoke German, Polish, Yiddish, Italian, and they did not allow their children to speak anything but English. It was considered a bad thing to do. they opened up delis with their own type of food, and they fixed and built things according to their talents.

And they educated their kids. they went to ball games, and participated in the communities.

There was bigotry and hatred but it was wrong. There was never a question that American Culture would prevail.

The Irish had so much trouble at one point that, coming from the old country, no one who had an education could hope to do anything more than building, or police and fire work when they got here.

And they educated their children and grandchildren, and all of that is forgotten. All cultures had that story from one degree to another.

on the Lower East Side, the Jews settled. There and in Brooklyn. They gave us composers, entertainers, our comedy culture, and it was not Russian, it was American, as in Irving Berlin’s “God Bless America”.

You have ethnic food, stories, traditions, gifts from all over the world in America.

anyone who says this deal, where an American student living in America has to go to court, taking time off from nursing school, or to take time off of nursing school to learn another language in her own country is not looking at this in a way that considers reality of the situation. Not the future of the situation and does not question the logic, not the history of immigrants assimilating into this country.

This is not going to go well, and If it’s not rejected it will turn out very badly.

When I go to another country to live, I take the time to learn the language. Period. and I’ve done just that.


39 posted on 02/24/2014 9:15:38 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
Where I come from, we moved in and had a cannon and told Mexico to 'come and take it'. And turned that land into Texas.

Not that long ago, all things considered.

I'm not going to sweat over the languages. It will sort itself out over time.

/johnny

40 posted on 02/24/2014 9:25:42 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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No, it won’t sort itself out. English will give way with that attitude so typical around here.

The kids I know want to get out of discriminatory Texas so fast, and they will, as they are not the ones getting the scholarships. They are not the right ethnicity.


41 posted on 02/24/2014 9:39:50 PM PST by stanne
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To: moonshinner_09

Si, El Guapo!


42 posted on 02/24/2014 9:58:49 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: workerbee

You’re from Maryland. Easy for you to say.


43 posted on 02/24/2014 10:03:20 PM PST by stanne
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To: workerbee

You need to spend time in a border state, if you can’t imagine by now, what’s going on.

Can’t Americans figure out that if it’s easy for us to accommodate tens of millions of illegal Mexican immigrants by learning their culture as they won’t ever give a rat about our culture, laws, language and borders, that it’s easy for them to learn English?

Are we that wimpy?


44 posted on 02/24/2014 10:06:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: JRandomFreeper
We did take the Republic from Mexico?

Not quite!  May be you need to do more research.

Even Wikipedia says, "República de Texas) was an independent sovereign nation in North America."

Click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas

45 posted on 02/24/2014 11:17:50 PM PST by hamboy
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To: JRandomFreeper

btt


46 posted on 02/24/2014 11:26:34 PM PST by wildbill
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To: JRandomFreeper

...I have yet to meet a frenchman that doesn’t speak a little bit of german....

I don’t care who you are that’s funny!


47 posted on 02/24/2014 11:32:39 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: GeronL
Why should I learn the language of invaders?

So you can interrogate them, read their communications and publish disinformation. Just a few off of the top of my head.
48 posted on 02/24/2014 11:34:29 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

you forgot -how much do I have to pay to bribe you-cuanto questa la mordida?


49 posted on 02/24/2014 11:39:12 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: stanne
If you think American Culture in America is subverting a foreign culture, we are done here.

Barf. You do not know JRandomFreeper. I speak four languages. Spanish is one of them.

Don't presume you know what I believe. English should be the national language by law, however US citizens should be required to learn other languages as part of public education.
50 posted on 02/24/2014 11:51:52 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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