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Defense secretary recommends elimination of A-10 fleet
Tucson News Now ^ | Feb 24, 2014 | Barbara Grijalva

Posted on 02/25/2014 1:56:03 PM PST by bkopto

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To: bkopto

When the military is gutted like after WW1 the military will go back to practicing with wooden guns and horses instead of tanks.


41 posted on 02/25/2014 2:32:29 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: Mastador1
The left has always held our military in low regard

Oh, yes indeed.

That's because the left isn't incompetent, it is evil. Leftism is evil.

42 posted on 02/25/2014 2:33:04 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’d think a lot of Army brass would want the whole inventory sent over to them ASAP! If they don’t, then this ol’ SP4 says they’re either islamocommies or they’re crazy. There’d be no third possibility.


43 posted on 02/25/2014 2:33:20 PM PST by onedoug
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To: SZonian

The US Air Force U-2 high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft first flew in 1955 and was developed by Lockheed Martin at the famous Skunk Works site.


44 posted on 02/25/2014 2:33:28 PM PST by JW1949
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To: JW1949

Sorry, I can tell the difference between many of the black jets...I’ve worked on 2 out of 3, the SR was the only bird I didn’t have the priviledge of turning a wrench on.

see post 39

Sheesh, it’s not like I’m an amateur at this...been working on aircraft since 1983....


45 posted on 02/25/2014 2:33:32 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

You apparently didn’t know the history of the U2 very well......


46 posted on 02/25/2014 2:34:08 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Osage Orange

I didn’t say anything about those first birds, read my post again...I was talking about the current birds and I don’t recall dragging history into it...but if it satisfies you, so be it.

I’m not going to argue semantics or look at squirrels.


47 posted on 02/25/2014 2:35:04 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Mr. K
Ya. Pretty awesome.

It can loiter for a long time and take a lot of damage and it can destroy armor. It is basically a tank with wings.

Is it still armed with “the gun.” I remember lefites complaining about the uranium slugs.

48 posted on 02/25/2014 2:35:27 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: SZonian

“The U2 isn’t 50 years old, those birds were built in the mid 80’s and have about 80% of their airframe life left in them.”

“The U-2 spy plane was the brainchild of the Central Intelligence Agency, and it was a sophisticated technological marvel. Traveling at altitudes of up to 70,000 feet, the aircraft was equipped with state-of-the-art photography equipment that could, the CIA boasted, take high-resolution pictures of headlines in Russian newspapers as it flew overhead. Flights over the Soviet Union began in mid-1956. The CIA assured President Eisenhower that the Soviets did not possess anti-aircraft weapons sophisticated enough to shoot down the high-altitude planes.”


49 posted on 02/25/2014 2:35:35 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: equaviator

Is there anything preventing volunteers to maintain the state’s guard units?

BTW, don’t hear anything about this pi$$ant sized state of Delaware losing Dover AFB or the Air Guard in New Castle. Politics, you think?


50 posted on 02/25/2014 2:37:30 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Osage Orange

If your ad hominem was meant to camoflauge your apparent and abject ignorance of the current state of the fleet, it fell flat...go find some other idiot who will swallow your bait, there are apparently many willing to take it on this thread and the pride and ego are running too thick.

Folks just interested in making themselves look smarter by half.

See ya...enjoy your circle jerk...aviation ignorance abounds and when someone who actually worked on the program weighs in...ad hominems follow shortly.

FR doesn’t disappoint, as usual.


51 posted on 02/25/2014 2:38:19 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

So tell us about the Aurora...


52 posted on 02/25/2014 2:40:10 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: SZonian
"The U2 isn’t 50 years old, those birds were built in the mid 80’s"



Francis Gary Powers- CIA Lockheed U-2 pilot. Shot down over Soviet airspace, 1 May 1960...More info >>>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Gary_Powers
53 posted on 02/25/2014 2:41:06 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SZonian

You claimed, as shown, the U2 isn’t 50 years old...In fact, it is 58 years old....Yes, it is still being used, albeit updated models, but the fact remains the U2 IS over 50 years old.....


54 posted on 02/25/2014 2:42:46 PM PST by JW1949
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To: SZonian

So when he said they were 50 years old he was wrong either way.


55 posted on 02/25/2014 2:43:08 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Army Air Corps

With all due respect to the awesome firepower and capabilities of the A-10, it was never really designed as a CAS but a tank and armor buster.

The Army should be authorized to obtain a true CAS aircraft to support soldiers needing soft target engagements. A few have been bantered about recently and remind me of the A1 Skyraider, one of the best true CAS aircraft ever built.


56 posted on 02/25/2014 2:43:48 PM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Army Air Corps
They'll never send an F-35 down into the weeds on a CAS mission.
57 posted on 02/25/2014 2:45:06 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: SZonian
Here's what you said:

The U2 isn’t 50 years old, those birds were built in the mid 80’s and have about 80% of their airframe life left in them.

I was just replying to what you wrote.

58 posted on 02/25/2014 2:46:27 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: SZonian
Geesh dude.....lighten up. I replied to what your posted. Period. I'm right.

Talk about ego...??

Read what you posted!!

59 posted on 02/25/2014 2:48:31 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: CodeToad

Yes, it was designed as a tank buster, but also took to the CAS role rather well.

As for replacements, I have seen some aircraft that, as you said, are reminiscent of the A-1. One was a modified Agcat and the other was from Beechcraft and based on the T-6 Texan II.


60 posted on 02/25/2014 2:48:53 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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