Ask bill.
Posted on 02/26/2014 2:54:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
HOUSTON — A federal judge in Texas struck down the state’s ban on same-sex marriage on Wednesday, ruling that the laws restricting marriage to a man and a woman violated the United States Constitution, handing gay-rights advocates a major legal victory in one of the nation’s biggest and most conservative states.
The judge wrote that the amendment to the state Constitution that Texas voters approved in 2005 defining marriage as between a man and a woman — and two similar laws passed in 1997 and 2003 — denied gay couples the right to marry and demeaned their dignity “for no legitimate reason.”
“Without a rational relation to a legitimate governmental purpose, state-imposed inequality can find no refuge in our United States Constitution,” wrote Judge Orlando L. Garcia of United States District Court for the Western District of Texas, in San Antonio....
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I didn’t say murder. Do it legally.
A distinction without a difference. Armed aggression kills people, either way you want to look at it.
The point is, the political will to direct the Armed Forces to force a state to re-join the union, does not exist in our time.
I really wish they would.
I so hope Texas pulls the plug and this thing started once and for all.
The United States of America does not exist any more. There is nothing ‘ united ‘ about us.
No stomach to murder fellow citizens, are you kidding? Remember Waco. Think about the integrity of TSA agents, the order of millions of rounds of ammo for the government. The government would be happy to have the excuse. They would happily come in and kill every one of us before they let us go. I don’t know what the answer is, but I think a bunch of us have to pray fervently before God to intervene. We can’t win without His intercession. We need leaders with guts, though, not feeble old men who take the easy way out to keep their office. We need to stand up to this filthy evil government that is a stench in God’s nostrils. Remember what He did to Sodom and Gomorrah for extreme homosexuality? I wish He would do something like that to the hellholes of evil. I guess I’m pretty mad right now about these POS judges who think they are smarter than God.
Welcome to the party...But you're a bit late.
CA prop 187.....The results of that fedgov intrusion can now been seen coast to coast...That intrusion resulted in the completely undermining and compromising our electoral process.
I'm not talking about a commando raid on a small compound with a few dozen souls inside. I'm talking about the deployment of the U.S. military in what would essentially be a declaration of war against a sovereign state.
The American people wouldn't stand for it, and the cowardly politicians wouldn't have the spine for it. Even if they did, the military would implode in mutiny over such an order.
Understand that there's also the deterrence factor of millions of well armed citizens who would instantly be mustered into militia service if such a sovereign state were threatened with military aggression. Talk all you want of tanks and airstrikes, but boots on the ground is the only thing that can fully root out an enemy. There'd be thousands of boots pointing skyward if they invaded.
You've really got to contemplate the magnitude of what you're suggesting. You're talking real war here, which is something the American people would not support against their fellow citizens (and even blood kin). It would tear what's left of the old union completely apart.
Actually you’d have to include Austin, El Paso, Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston. They all went Blue in 2012 by wide margins.
Federal Judge is Brother in Law of Texas Democrat Senate Caucus Chairman - Judge Orlando L. Garcia is the Brother-In-Law of Democrat State Senator Leticia Van De Putte. Van De Putte was recently the Texas State Senate Caucus Chairman for nearly a decade and she is one of the most liberal Democrats in Texas.
Here we go folks.
Ukrainian style protest is always an alternative. Not advocating, just sayin.
The large cities are the cancers that suck the lifeblood out of hard working Americans.
You said “No they don’t. They are perverted sexual deviates that ought to be jailed,in my opinion. Leviticus in God’s word transcends the law of some damned Clinton ( what a joke he was) appointee. NO HOMO WEDDINGS—”
Does that mean you don’t believe a homosexual man has the same right to marry a woman as a heterosexual man?
I am telling you that everyone has the same right to marry a person of the opposite sex. There is no discrimination in that.
The acceptance of an oxymoronic invention and bastardization of a long-standing institution is official.
Somebody went judge shopping. Amazing how courts can so quickly (as in overnight) CREATE a right under the Constitution for faireees that really doesn’t exist and yet a real right (2nd Amendment) gets stomped on or otherwise creeps its way thru the courts.
We have seen for years the judicial legislation dictatorship working to destroy all semblance of our Federal Republic, just as we are now seeing how the legislative branch has over the years abdicated their responsibility to a plethora of executive agencies that now have more power than they do.
Prediction: the GOP will win the Senate this year only to be demonized for the next two years by presstitutes helping to ensure the election of the Hildabeast in 2016 assuming the Kenyan doesn’t establish martial law before then.
Have a nice day. There ain’t too many left.
Both the lawyers and the Judges keep getting it wrong. Marriage is not a right, its a privilege like driving. One does not ask permission of the state and get a license for a right.
Accordingly, its not a 14th Amendment issue no more then drivers license are.
“State laws requiring segregation of blacks from whites are another matter and are unconstitutional (14th Amendment). The feds have a Constitutional right to interfere with state laws that require segregation of blacks from whites.”
The 14th Amendment says nothing about blacks and whites:
“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
What the court is relying on is the equal protection clause. The courts have consistently held that under the equal protection clause, the states have a very strong burden to show why it is necessary to discriminate against any class of people. It was up to the state in the trial court to present evidence showing why it was vital to Texas to prevent gay marriages. Apparently the judge felt the record was not strong enough.
Sounds like Texas didn’t do a very good job following through on presenting the necessary evidence, for some reason. Or maybe Texas did a good job, but the trial court was just too prejudiced to see it. In any event, the 5th Circuit will review the record and make its own decision.
Let’s ask George Washington, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Sam Adams, et al if the Constitution that they promulgated could form the basis to force a private baker to make and sell a wedding cake to two openly homosexuals even if the baker’s religion considered homosexual activity to be sinful.
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