Skip to comments.Itís true: Government agents are infiltrating online communities
Posted on 02/26/2014 5:22:57 PM PST by Nachum
If you have been following Glenn since his days at Fox News, you may remember the expose he did on Obama regulatory czar Cass Sunstein and his nudge theory. One of Sunsteins more disturbing ideas involved government operatives infiltrating online communities in order to disseminate false information. As Glenn describes it, the goal was to pose, infiltrate, and discredit. Anyone who actually took Sunsteins words at face value were mocked and labeled conspiracy theorists. But, as it turns out, it was all true.
The English version of the NSA is the GCHQ The English NSA has now revealed that thats exactly what our government is doing, Glenn said on radio this morning. What Cass Sunstein proposed in a purely academic setting that was his excuse the British NSA has now verified. Thats exactly what we are doing. And so there are operatives posing as regular citizens on our web sites and in our organizations. I mean how crazy is that? Wake up, America! Wake up!
Glenn Greewald the former Guardian reporter who worked to publish the material exposed by Edward Snowden released a thorough report on his new website, FirstLook.org, dissecting the data.
Over the last several weeks, I worked with NBC News to publish a series of articles about dirty trick tactics used by GCHQs previously secret unit, JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group). These were based on four classified GCHQ documents presented to the NSA and the other three partners in the English-speaking Five Eyes alliance. Today, we at the Intercept are publishing another new JTRIG document, in full, entitled The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations.
By publishing these stories one by one, our NBC reporting highlighted some of the key, discrete revelations: the monitoring of YouTube and Blogger,
(Excerpt) Read more at glennbeck.com ...
Its no surprise.
Propaganda minister Cass Sunstein wrote a paper on the techniques when he was at Columbia university years ago.
The Government listening to our private phone conversations and email and using paid shills to manipulate public opinion on the Internet? Why, only tin foil hat wearing, moonbat kooks believe that rot! The nutters have been spouting that nonsense for years.
I wonder who the FR agent is...
Yeah, like that'll ever happen. We play too nice.....
America has become one big re-education camp.
FTA: “Ultimately, Glenn had a simple message for his listeners and viewers: When you come across someone who appears to be a troll dont engage.
Im not saying this for any other reason than you have to be extraordinarily careful on what you look at. When you read, especially comments sections, it is easy to get the view that wow, Im kind of alone, Glenn explained. So I want you to understand thats whats happening You fight fire with water If you know the game they are playing, when you see things like that, dont engage. Just dont engage You have to understand it and then fight fire with water.
I was just looking at the comments on an article about the terrorists who became an Obamacare navigator and noticed that the big troll there was almost totally ignored. No matter how obnoxious he barely got any replies and the 2 he did were to tell him to go away.
I’ve stopped a couple of trolls recently by asking them to list what fatass did at Secretary of State that would justify her being promoted to POTUS. No answer.
Somebody on this forum has been saying that I am paranoid. Now who is it?
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“I wonder who the FR agent is...”
Ellie Light: Dozens more sightings of Obama’s most prolific letter-writing fan
Greenwald: How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive and Destroy Reputations
yes Nachum ... True! Maybe is too late but I will not be counted out, just yet!!! FUBO!
I think its that Jim Thompson guy who showed up here a couple years back.......
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Hmmm, I dunno… Thompson seems like such a stand-up guy, I think the better bet is on that Robinson fellow.
Always wondered 7 proxies or 7 levels of security? Don’t answer!
If allowed it is my fault.
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Clean the Tangerine ... See the Pineapple Whore!
I can’t name any one individual poster that I suspect is a left-wing plant, but you can bet there are several. Judge them by their fruits.
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or a little bit slower ... See the Family Verse.
The smart ones are awake. The ones who voted for Obama, are dumb and not awake. I dont for a minute believe this started with Obama.
There are more than just one.
Any post having to do with Obama will have dozens of trolls and obots being derogatory and calling out slurs.
I wonder how many.
Do you honestly believe there is only one?
Since these documents were presented to the “Five Eyes Alliance”, I will have to assume the NSA and these other agencies are using these tactics as well, given what I’ve read and heard about the NSA’s actions so far.
I dont know if my daughter qualifies as hard left but she says she would like single payer but knows it would never pass. Most of the real fighting seems to be over that public option thing zero keeps talking about. My daughter says she is fighting for that because it is the only way she will ever be insured (she has pre-existing conditions). My neighbor down the street is the same way. She is diabetic and lost her job a few months ago. She found a new job but it doesnt have insurance and she cant afford cobra. Now my sister has recruited her into the march toward socialism. We need to find these people an alternative to obamacare or they just might succeed in pushing it through.
I meant daughter not sister above though sometimes I fight with my daughter as much as I ever did with my sister.
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The main problem I have is the my son says his opinion is based on his own data and research not just all other scientists he talks to, so when I try to challenge his notions he acts like Im calling him a lier or something. The other day he tried to show me some charts of ocean temperatures and plankten samples and how carbon was building up and making acid. Ill admit it was all a bit over my head, but since this is his own research he obviously has a lot of emotion tied to and that makes it hard to talk to him about it. He honestly thinks people like us are killing the planet. Im really glad Ive found a community like this where I can share because since my husband has been gone some years I dont have anyone to about this.
I find myself just shaken my head these days
Speaking of tools: Hey NSA, you nazi jerkøffs need to up your recruitment standards .. try some S.Korean 7th graders.
I have noticed that the shills get called out and piled on. They really don’t seem to have much real influence. They almost always resort to name-calling and address people in a demeaning and derogatory manner, rather than ever posting intelligent comments. They never post analysis.
They stand out like big sore thumbs.
This sounds hugh. I’m series.
So who’s the BO agents here at FR??
Would have to have a join date after 2009 unless someone’s being paid to turn.
(And it’s not me, I swear!!)
“They stand out like big sore thumbs.”
Actually, the real trolls don’t stand out at all. They are very low key and it’s really easy to pass them by. It’s insidious. MadisonChristian posted for several months before being disappeared. And don’t think he/she isn’t still posting under another four or five names, either.
Donde esa llama esa llama
Anyone who says "I'm conservative, but...."
If they were really conservative, they'd not only "have" the conservative response, they'd also "believe" the conservative response.
Good Call. I’ve encountered trolls exactly like “MadisonChristian” on other threads. The writing is too pat and forced.
They worm their way in slowly and quietly pretending to be one of us, glad to be here and ask lots of questions. They’re quick with praise and kind words “glad to meet you!” “tell me more!” —to lure in others to their side.
When they do drop their facade and show their true colors, they have a following and people who are loyal to them — then BOOM the troll gets us to turn on one another by calling other posters “closet lefties” or “shills” or some other such thing - the posters the trolls has cultivated over a period of months now back troll. Before you know it, people are at each other’s throats. I know one site that closed commenting permanently after this sort of attack, another site that had to shut down commentary for about 3 months before the mods could untangle the mess and another forum where I caught the SAME troll doing the same thing.
One long time poster was pouring out his heart to this troll, who had just showed up out of nowhere — I think he was about to hand over his credit card information and everything, he was so taken in by the flattery of this troll. I recognized the troll and outted him — he left cussing and screaming and calling me all kinds of names but those duped were completely embarrassed that they’d been taken in.
Bottom line: Don’t let your guard down when someone shows up out of nowhere with oozing praise and flattery, asks to learn all about us, says he’s glad he found a home where he’s comfortable with like-minded people, and asks too many personal questions.
And, no, I’m not (one of the) FReep trolls.