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Crushing People Into Tight Housing Won't Cut CO2 Levels
Investors Business Daily ^ | 2-26-14 | Lawrence J. McQuillan

Posted on 02/26/2014 6:56:41 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic

'Smart growth" projects across the country aim to jam people into high-density housing near mass transit systems.

Proponents think this will make people abandon their automobiles, reducing greenhouse gas emissions. But new research shows "stack-and-pack" housing is an ineffective way to reduce carbon dioxide levels.

Researchers at the University of California Energy and Resources Group in Berkeley used Census, weather, economic and transportation data — 37 variables in total — to estimate greenhouse gas emissions from the energy, transportation, food, goods and services consumed by U.S. households.

They calculated "household carbon footprints" for more than 31,000 U.S. ZIP codes (of approximately 43,000 total) in all 50 states and found that a "10-fold increase in population density in central cities yields only a 25% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions."

In other words, the number of people living in cities such as Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Miami, Philadelphia and New York would have to increase 10 times — from 1.5 million in Philadelphia, for example, to 15 million — to yield a 25% reduction in CO2.

As the study's co-author, Christopher Jones, put it: "(A 10-fold increase) would require a really extraordinary transformation for very little benefit."

Stack-and-pack living is a blueprint for misery in urban America. Few people would want to live in such conditions. Yet this is exactly the vision that smart-growth advocates and their political allies are pushing.

For example, the regional smart-growth plan for the San Francisco Bay Area, approved last summer, calls for jamming an additional 2 million people into just 5% of the Bay Area's land over the next 27 years.

Similar plans exist, or are being discussed, in metro Chicago, El Paso, Minneapolis-St. Paul

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: co2; globalwarming; highdensity; masstransit; smartgrowth

1 posted on 02/26/2014 6:56:41 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Agenda 21 here we come....


2 posted on 02/26/2014 6:59:59 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is nothing new. I have several decade old pictures of East Berlin to prove it.


3 posted on 02/26/2014 7:00:02 PM PST by posterchild
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4 posted on 02/26/2014 7:00:03 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Forget the housing aspect — just get big rocks and crush the people. That should fix the problem. It’s all about population control.


5 posted on 02/26/2014 7:02:02 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

But stack-n-pack with public transportation does enhance control of the population while/by lessening its mobility and keeping folks all together where the local commissars can keep them all more easily under their thumbs.


6 posted on 02/26/2014 7:10:57 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Can someone explain this to me? How do they get these people into the apartments? Steal their property? Or are they poor people? I’m seriously undereducated in this.


7 posted on 02/26/2014 7:13:04 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Da Tovarisch, pack everyone into Soviet style apartment blocks, 3 families into 10 foot by 10 foot apartment.

Scientific Socialism under Party Secretary Obama will out-do Cabrini Green, and make much greater Socialist Workers’ Paradise!


8 posted on 02/26/2014 7:24:35 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: miss marmelstein

They use all means available. Make it more expensive to live outside cities. EPA on wood stoves, auto gas,... Exit taxes in cities...

Funny, more people in cities just happens to mean more ‘Rats in congress


9 posted on 02/26/2014 7:29:26 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What do you think generally happens long term to these densely populated areas? They grow and become beautiful places to live and raise children, or they decay and resemble the projects?

http://www.ncsociology.org/crowding.htm

Wait, here is even a “gubbermint” expert telling us this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2636191/


10 posted on 02/26/2014 7:32:46 PM PST by Red6
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes, but making people move to huge, overpopulated cities, live in tiny rabbit hutches, and taking away their guns and automobiles will make it far easier to control them...every leftist’s dream. Along with eliminating people who don’t think the way they do. Inside the breast of every leftist beats the heart of a wouldbe Stalin.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 7:34:11 PM PST by driftless2
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To: C210N

I guess coming to a suburb near me. I’ve got a wood stove.


12 posted on 02/26/2014 7:34:59 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

They pass so many regulations and increase taxes so much that people can’t afford anything but small apartments and public transportation. Have you ever watched House Hunters International on HGTV? People pay a million dollars or more for old, cramped apartments and have to walk everywhere. Come to think of it, that sounds like NYC.


13 posted on 02/26/2014 8:27:34 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Fred Hayek

Reminds one of the scene in Dr. Zhivago where the Commie tells the doctor that his house is too big for just one family and that they brought in a bunch of people to “share” it.


14 posted on 02/26/2014 8:30:09 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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15 posted on 02/26/2014 9:14:25 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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16 posted on 02/26/2014 10:22:16 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: driftless2

I’m always amazed by the leftists’ desire to control everything, and in the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.


17 posted on 02/26/2014 10:59:08 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Paul R.

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18 posted on 02/26/2014 11:16:28 PM PST by Paul R. (LeftistsÂ’ desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: Paul R.

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19 posted on 02/26/2014 11:17:55 PM PST by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I see.

People love old houses in NYC. They also love to walk which is why, like many residents of big cities, they are usually slimmer than those of us who use cars.

But it is their choice to buy old, cramped apartments. It looks like that will soon be changing.


20 posted on 02/27/2014 3:49:33 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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