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To: SkyPilot

He’s already done it, Hagel...and what are you and your metro-sexual leader going to do about it?

Russian troops are on the ground in the Ukraine. They took two airports and have been flying in transports of more troops. They are there and Putin has outmaneuvered the weak Obama and the EU. Even as Obama and Kerry continue to drone on about, “You better not do this,” Putin has already done it. So what do we do to keep all of Ukraine from falling in a a domino effect and eastern Europe being dominated by Russia?

1) Immediately have the US and the EU confer with Ukraine and tell them to NOT attack the Russian troops in the Crimea. Have them immediately mobilize their forces to their borders and take up positions and prepare and make any further Russian aggression have to come through their prepared positions. Right now the Crimea is lost, and attacking them there will only invite a much larger invasion and the potential loss of all of the Ukraine.

2) The US should immediately start flying C-17s into Kiev (the Ukraine Capitol) loaded with advisors, provisions, trainers, and a a security force for those people. We cannot get enough people there to stop Putin at this point, but we can show him that the price for taking the Ukraine has now gone up and would be too steep for him.

3) Have the NATO and Euopean countries (Germany, France, the UK, Italy, Spain) do the same thing (Number 2) at other critical points throughout the Ukraine.

4) Immediately move to make the rest of the Ukraine a part of NATO.

5) Hasten the Ukraine’s entry into the EU.

These measures will block Putin now, and hold him where he is with the gains he has made. It is not likely that the Ukraine will get the Crimea back, no more than Georgia will got its two lost provinces back. But we can limit the damage and build a strong coalition of the Baltic States, Poland, Hungary , Slovakia, the Czech Republic and western Europe to stop Russia where it is.

Otherwise we may see the whole of the Ukraine go over...and that would bne the first step in a process for Russia to once again establish a buffer between itself and western Europe.

Folks, when you elect a man who sat with the Russian Prime Minister Medvedev, just before the 2012 Elections, and told him...when he thought he was off microphone...that after the elections, he, Obama, “would be a lot more flexible,” with Putin...this is what you get.

We need to neuter this guy politically in 2014, and then run he and his ilk out of the White House for good in 2016. If we do not, things will get worse...much worse.


74 posted on 02/28/2014 5:32:39 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

I think it was a mistake for the Ukraine to turn over their nukes to Russia after the breakup. At one time, they were the fourth largest nuclear power in the world. Then again, had things happens they do now, it can be more dangerous when it gets to the point where they start trading Kiev of Moscow or Lvov for Leningrad/St. Petersburg.


82 posted on 02/28/2014 5:59:06 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: Jeff Head
"So what do we do to keep all of Ukraine from falling in a a domino effect and eastern Europe being dominated by Russia?

1) Immediately have the US and the EU confer with Ukraine and tell them to NOT attack the Russian troops in the Crimea. Have them immediately mobilize their forces to their borders and take up positions and prepare and make any further Russian aggression have to come through their prepared positions. Right now the Crimea is lost, and attacking them there will only invite a much larger invasion and the potential loss of all of the Ukraine.

2) The US should immediately start flying C-17s into Kiev (the Ukraine Capitol) loaded with advisors, provisions, trainers, and a a security force for those people. We cannot get enough people there to stop Putin at this point, but we can show him that the price for taking the Ukraine has now gone up and would be too steep for him.

3) Have the NATO and Euopean countries (Germany, France, the UK, Italy, Spain) do the same thing (Number 2) at other critical points throughout the Ukraine.

4) Immediately move to make the rest of the Ukraine a part of NATO.

5) Hasten the Ukraine’s entry into the EU.

That's sheer insanity and those actions would never have my support or the support of 90% of the American people OR US Military.

Precipitate a nuclear war for the Ukraine, which Russia already has, and has for over 400 years?

That nuts. I'm glad you're not in a position to influence these events.

100 posted on 02/28/2014 6:50:21 PM PST by Mariner (tHE)
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To: Jeff Head

If Reagan were the President those are the steps he would have taken.


103 posted on 02/28/2014 6:55:58 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Jeff Head

Yes, that’s sort of what I was thinking. An East Ukraine (Russia) and West Ukraine (US).


106 posted on 02/28/2014 7:09:37 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Jeff Head

You said: “....Hasten the Ukraine’s entry into the EU....”

I doubt that anybody in “old” Europe wants to have the Ukraine inside the EU in the moment. This is not a decision that is made in Washington....

First of all they need elections there to find out what the majority of the people really wants.

Regards from Europe

Andreas


129 posted on 03/01/2014 12:59:53 AM PST by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: Jeff Head

In other words, things will get much worse.


135 posted on 03/01/2014 7:37:15 AM PST by ecomcon
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