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Ukraine Nazis: Is America Backing EuroMaidan Extremists?
International Business Times ^ | By Ludovica Iaccino , Published: February 25, 2014 13:02 PM

Posted on 03/01/2014 11:26:07 AM PST by kronos77

Signs of fascism and neo-Nazi extremism were evident during the Euromaidan protest, according to independent news magazine AlterNet.

White supremacist banners and Confederate flags were draped inside Kiev's occupied City Hall, while demonstrators displayed Nazi SS and white power symbols, AlterNet explained.

White supremacist banners inside Kiev's City HallYoutube EuroMaidan protesters also destroyed a memorial to Ukrainians who died battling German occupation during World War II.

"The taking down of the 'Soviet Soldier' in the town of Stryi, Lvov region, turns a new page in the chaos that gripped the nation in November, and has taken on dangerously nationalist overtones in the past fortnight", according to Russia Today.

According to a member of anti-fascist Union Ukraine, a group that monitors and fights fascism in Ukraine, "There are lots of nationalists here [EuroMaidan] including Nazis. They came from all over Ukraine, and they make up about 30% of protesters.

"Different groups [of anarchists] came together for a meeting on the Maidan. While they were meeting, a group of Nazis came in a larger group, they had axes and baseball bats and sticks, helmets, they said it was their territory. They called the anarchists things like Jews, blacks, communists. There weren't even any communists, that was just an insult. The anarchists weren't expecting this and they left. People with other political views can't stay in certain places, they aren't tolerated," a member of the group continued.

One of the big political parties behind the protests is the ultra-nationalist Svoboda, whose leader, Oleh Tyahnybok, called for the liberation of his country from the "Muscovite-Jewish mafia".

Related Ukraine EU Protests and the Jew Haters Marching under the Nationalist Flag In 2012, the EU parliament voiced concern about "rising nationalistic sentiment in Ukraine, expressed in support of the Svoboda party".

(Excerpt) Read more at ibtimes.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; nayi; neonazis; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianoccupation; ukraine; ukraineunrest; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko

1 posted on 03/01/2014 11:26:07 AM PST by kronos77
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To: kronos77

Alternet is a far left website that sees the GOP as a far right party. Why not dig into Pravda’s archives, while you’re at it?


2 posted on 03/01/2014 11:29:16 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: kronos77

Lithuanians have a fondness for the Stars & Bars, for their own historical reasons. Doesn’t make them Nazis, or racist.


3 posted on 03/01/2014 11:29:48 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

What’s the deal there? I was about to call BS on this talk of Confederacy flags until I saw the picture.


4 posted on 03/01/2014 11:32:50 AM PST by jiggyboy
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To: kronos77
Signs of fascism and neo-Nazi extremism

Oh it's just the Chicago way, did the DNC open an office in Kiev?

5 posted on 03/01/2014 11:33:21 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: kronos77

The ignorance by some here about what the Nazis did to the Ukrainians during WWII is stunning.

Most Ukrainian despise Nazis. This article is Russian propaganda.


6 posted on 03/01/2014 11:35:59 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: jiggyboy
It's a rebel thing. No reason to read more into it. It just is what it is. The Lithuanians were the first to secede* from the USSR. They see the Stars & Bars as a protest symbol.

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*The Lithuanian argument was that they were not legally incorporated into the USSR, so they weren't really seceding.

7 posted on 03/01/2014 11:36:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jiggyboy

The Russians are playing the Stepan Bandera card. In a nutshell, if you’re against the Russians, you’re a Nazi. In reality that’s probably an extremely miniscule factor at best. Ukrainians fought with both sides in WW II. The memories are still fresh enough to elicit a response.

The contemporary equivalent in this country is racism. We all know how the race baiters have made a good living from seeing racism everywhere.


8 posted on 03/01/2014 11:37:24 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: kronos77

Wow. There seems to be a concerted effort on FR to label any Ukrainian seeking freedom as a Nazi, and siding with Putin. Nice job, disruptors!


9 posted on 03/01/2014 11:38:45 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Dr. Thorne
One of them called me a neo-Nazi Soros supporter not too long ago. Try and wrap your mind around that one.

But it was straight from the playbook.

10 posted on 03/01/2014 11:43:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jiggyboy

White pride and Conf. flags are displayed in Kiyev city hall


11 posted on 03/01/2014 11:47:34 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
Is America Backing EuroMaidan Extremists?

Uncle Scam funds and arms Christian killing jihadi terrorists to overthrow the legitimate government in Syria so why not?

12 posted on 03/01/2014 11:53:24 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: kronos77

Nice try. Ukrainians want freedom. Putin wants tyranny and control. Choose your side, kronos, although it is clear where your sympathies lie.


13 posted on 03/01/2014 11:54:17 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: kronos77

So being against the commie dictator Putin makes you a Nazi?

Sounds like commie propaganda to me.


14 posted on 03/01/2014 12:08:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: jiggyboy
I was about to call BS on this talk of Confederacy flags until I saw the picture.

Still might be BS. Where was that picture taken? Kiev? Or maybe it was taken at Putin's guest house in Moscow.

And who put the flag up? Ukrainian nationalists? Russian provocateurs? Who knows?

15 posted on 03/01/2014 12:20:43 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: FreeReign

Many Ukrainians fought with the Nazis.


16 posted on 03/01/2014 12:25:55 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: kronos77

Don’t like ‘em? Call ‘em ‘Nazis’, that always works. Like Big Bad Wolf and Loch Ness Monster. The ignorant rule the world and will buy anything.


17 posted on 03/01/2014 12:28:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: FreeReign

“Mark Levin, chairman of the NCSJ, an American organization that advocates for Jews in the former Soviet Union, expressed concern that with elections slated for May 25, a future government could result in ultranationalists gaining power in Ukraine. Svoboda, a rightwing nationalist party, was prominent in the protest movement, and party officials have expressed virulently anti-Semitic sentiments.”

http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Ukrainian-Jews-adjusting-to-life-in-uncertain-times-343680


18 posted on 03/01/2014 12:36:51 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: kronos77

Russia expects West reaction to Ukranian nationalists’ call for help from terrorists

“Moscow expects the West’s reaction to the call of the head of the ultranationalist Ukrainian organization “ The Right sector” and one of the Maidan leaders Dmitry Yarosh, to the leader of Chechen terrorists Doku Umarov, reported the Russian Foreign Ministry commissioner on human rights Konstantin Dolgov .

“A Ukrainian Neo-fascist Yarosh called for Umarov’s help. Is the West relying on such “democrats”? Will the local reaction follow? - Russian diplomat wrote in his Twitter.

On Saturday, the head of the Ukrainian ultranationalist organization “ The Right sector” and one of the Maidan leaders Dmitry Yarosh addressed to the leader of the Chechen terrorists Doku Umarov for support.

He wrote about this on “the Right sector” public page in “VKontakte”.


19 posted on 03/01/2014 12:38:14 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Many Ukrainians were forced to fight with the Nazis.

The SS would come into a village and have all the men drop their pants. Those who were circumcised were Jews and made to stand in one group. All the other men were given a choice. Join with the Waffen SS or go stand with the jews. The women got to go to Germany and work in the arms industry.

CC

20 posted on 03/01/2014 12:42:13 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: kronos77
White pride and Conf. flags are displayed in Kiyev city hall

It would have more significance if Ukraine HAD ANY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF BLACK RESIDENTS. But they don't. They don't even have any significant number of Muslims. So who would "White Supremacists" be complaining about?

21 posted on 03/01/2014 12:43:49 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Captain Compassion
The SS would come into a village and have all the men drop their pants. Those who were circumcised were Jews and made to stand in one group. All the other men were given a choice. Join with the Waffen SS or go stand with the jews. The women got to go to Germany and work in the arms industry.

One of the reasons I did not agree with Demjanjuk, I think mitigating circumstances should have applied there...but the Germans were gung ho to tell the world that not only Austrians and Germans participated in the Holocaust.

22 posted on 03/01/2014 12:44:15 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Many Ukrainians fought with the Nazis.

Given the millions of Ukrainians dead at Stalin's hands in the "terror famine", do you blame them for hating Russian Communists?

23 posted on 03/01/2014 12:45:44 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
A few Ukrainians fought for the Nazis. They of course hated what Stalin and the Russians had done to them. Eventually some fought for the Red Army. They hated what the Nazis did to them during WWII.

Millions of Ukrainians died from Stalin's forced famines in the 30's.

1 million Ukrainian Jews and 4 million Ukrainian Christians were killed by the Nazis during WWII.

Ukrainians despise both groups.

Read the history about what the Nazis did to the Ukrainians during WWII.

What happened last week in the Ukraine has nothing to do with Nazism.

You are regurgitating what is Putin playing the Nazism card.

Think, what similarly happens in this country when propagandists play the race card.

24 posted on 03/01/2014 12:49:00 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: kronos77
I didn't know America was supporting anyone there.
0bama's late-to-the-game lap dog yapping doesn't count does it?
25 posted on 03/01/2014 12:53:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Somebody should tell them to stop flying the confederate battle flag for their cause. It’s an insult to the tens of thousands of Americans who died under it.


26 posted on 03/01/2014 1:00:01 PM PST by virgil
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To: FreeReign

+1


27 posted on 03/01/2014 1:12:27 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Dr. Thorne

+1


28 posted on 03/01/2014 1:13:02 PM PST by wideawake
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To: virgil
You go tell them, tough guy.

Tell them that it used to be flown by a bunch of dead losers who got their butts whipped.

29 posted on 03/01/2014 1:15:01 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Zhang Fei

Is this “false flag” propaganda?


30 posted on 03/01/2014 1:28:42 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: jiggyboy

Yeah, me too. A Confederate battle flag in of all places. Strange to me, with no cultural or historical connection, that revolting Ukies would pick that as a symbol.

A Jolly Roger. The Ukrainian flag. Hell, a Rainbow flag. But the Stars and Bars. Weird.


31 posted on 03/01/2014 1:32:32 PM PST by FAA
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To: Rusty0604
Svoboda has an 8% representation in the Ukraine Parliament - they are not driving Maidan. They are hangers-on.

Meanwhile, Russians in the Ukraine support Vladimir Putin, whose FSB actively persecuted and tortured Soviet Jews like Natan Sharansky for years.

32 posted on 03/01/2014 1:34:03 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

There’s no “tough guy” to this. I just don’t want the symbol to be associated with Nazis.


33 posted on 03/01/2014 1:38:16 PM PST by virgil
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To: Captain Compassion; LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Many Ukrainians volunteered to serve the Nazis - and it made sense at the time for the them to do so because the Communists were so much worse to them than the Nazis had been up to that time.


34 posted on 03/01/2014 2:32:24 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: virgil

“It’s an insult to the tens of thousands of Americans who died under it.”

So modern day racists flying a flag in their rebellion against a tyrannical government - by doing so - insult 19th century racists who rebelled against a government they considered tyrannical? I’m just not seeing the insult there.


35 posted on 03/01/2014 2:37:01 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: kronos77
Ukraine Nazis: Is America Backing EuroMaidan Extremists?

They are sure trying to sell that straw man.

36 posted on 03/01/2014 8:44:58 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

Yes they are. Their example has around 8.5% support in the last election, their high water mark.


37 posted on 03/01/2014 8:46:36 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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