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To: stanne
What did st Patrick have to do w lesbian rights recognition?

ANYTHING to get to prance around and show the deluded the 'normalcy' of their chosen lifestyle.

59 posted on 03/02/2014 2:39:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

What did st Patrick have to do w lesbian rights recognition?

ANYTHING to get to prance around and show the deluded the ‘normalcy’ of their chosen lifestyle.
et your post.

I said nothing about normalcy or prancing.

you must be addressing someone else.

To end this here and now, lest I get kidnapped into a week long illogical discussion, the Catechism states what I post below. THe references are numbered, and I post the descriptions below that.

THey are biblical references.

Any problem you have with the Catholic church, in reference to this thread can be taken up with those in charge of the event referred to in the title of the article heading this thread, St Patrick Day. It is a Catholic Holiday, honoring a catholic figure.

You can go to 49th St and Fifth avenue in Manhattan on st Patricks Day, and discuss it with Cardinal Dolan and tell HIM his life is misguided inside the Cathedral of St Patrick whose builders and patrons built it in order for them and us, their progeny, to better practice their faith, tell him they wasted their time and money.

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Chastity and homosexuality

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

References:
141 Cf. Gen 191-29; Rom 124-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10.
142 CDF, Persona humana 8

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19751229_persona-humana_en.html

References (Any Apostolic letter references can be further referenced, and their biblical references will be as extensive as this letter):

ENDNOTES

1. Cf. Second Vatican Ecumenical Council, Constitution on the Church in the Modern World “Gaudium et Spes,” 47 AAS 58 (1966), p. 1067.

2. Cf. Apostolic Constitution “Regimini Ecclesiae Universae,” 29 (Aug 15th, 1967) AAS 89 (1967), p. 1067.

3. “Gaudium et Spes,” 16 AAS 58 (1966), p. 1037.

4. Jn 8:12.

5. Second Vatican Ecumenical Council, Declaration “Dignitatis Humanae,” 3 AAS 58 (1966), p. 931.

6. I Tim 3:15

7. “Dignitatis Humanae,” 14 AAS 58 (1966), p. 940; cf Pius XI, encyclical letter “Casti Connubii,” Dec 31st, 1930 AAS 22 (1930), pp 579-580; Pius XII, allocution of Nov. 2nd, 1954 AAS 46 (1954), pp 671-672; John XXIII, encyclical letter “Mater et Magistra,” May 15th, 1961 AAS 53 (1961), p. 457; Paul VI, encyclical letter “Humanae Vitae,” 4, July 25th, 1968 AAS 60 (1968) p. 483.

8. Cf. Second Vatican Ecumenical Council, Declaration “Gravissimum Educationis,” 1, 8: AAS 58 (1966), pp. 729-730; 734-736 “Gaudium et Spes,” 29, 60, 67 AAS 58 (1966), pp. 1048 1049, 1080-1081, 1088-1089.

9. “Gaudium et Spes,” 51 AAS 58 (1966), pp. 1072.

10. Ibid; cf also 49 loc cit, pp. 1069-1070.

11. Ibid, 49, 50 loc cit, pp. 1069-1072.

12. The present Declaration does not go into further detail regarding the norms of sexual life within marriage; these norms have been clearly taught in the encyclical letter “Casti Connubii” and “Humanae Vitae.”

13. Cf. Mt 19:4-6.

14. I Cor 7:9.

15. Cf. Eph 5:25-32.

16. Sexual intercourse outside marriage is formally condemned I Cor 5:1; 6:9; 7:2; 10:8 Eph. 5:5; I Tim 1:10; Heb 13:4; and with explicit reasons I Cor 6:12-20.

17. Cf. Innocent IV, letter “Sub catholica professione,” March 6th, 1254, DS 835; Pius II, “Propos damn in Ep Cum sicut accepimus.” Nov 13th, 1459, DS 1367; decrees of the Holy Office, Sept 24th, 1665, DS 2045; March 2nd, 1679, DS 2148 Pius XI, encyclical letter “Casti Connubii,” Dec 31st, 1930 AAS 22 (1930), pp. 558 559.

18. Rom 1:24-27 “That is why God left them to their filthy enjoyments and the practices with which they dishonor their own bodies since they have given up Divine truth for a lie and have worshipped and served creatures instead of the Creator, Who is blessed forever. Amen! That is why God has abandoned them to degrading passions; why their women have turned from natural intercourse to unnatural practices and why their menfolk have given up natural intercourse to be consumed with passion for each other, men doing shameless things with men and getting an appropriate reward for their perversion” See also what St. Paul says of “masculorum concubitores” in I Cor 6:10; I Tim 1:10.

19. Cf. Leo IX, letter “Ad splendidum nitentis,” in the year 1054 DS 687-688, decree of the Holy Office, March 2nd, 1679: DS 2149; Pius XII, “Allocutio,” Oct 8th, 1953 AAS 45 (1953), pp. 677-678; May 19th, 1956 AAS 48 (1956), pp. 472-473.

20. “Gaudium et Spes,” 51 AAS 58 (1966), p. 1072.

21. “. . . it sociological surveys are useful for better discovering the thought patterns of the people of a particular place, the anxieties and needs of those to whom we proclaim the word of God, and also the opposition made to it by modern reasoning through the widespread notion that outside science there exists no legitimate form of knowledge, still the conclusions drawn from such surveys could not of themselves constitute a determining criterion of truth,” Paul VI, apostolic exhortation “Quinque iam anni.” Dec 8th 1970, AAS 63 (1971), p. 102.

22. Mt 22:38, 40.

23. Mt 19:16-19.

24. Cf. note 17 and 19 above Decree of the Holy Office, March 18th, 1666, DS 2060; Paul VI, encyclical letter “Humanae Vitae,” 13, 14 AAS 60 (1968), pp. 489-496.

25. Sam 16:7.

26. Paul VI, encyclical letter “Humanae Vitae,” 29 AAS 60 (1968), p. 501.

27. Cf. I Cor 7:7, 34; Council of Trent, Session XXIV, can 10 DS 1810; Second Vatican Council, Constitution “Lumen Gentium,” 42 43, 44 AAS 57 (1965), pp. 47-51 Synod of Bishops, “De Sacerdotio Ministeriali,” part II, 4, b: AAS 63 (1971), pp. 915-916.

28. Mt 5:28.

29. Cf. Gal 5:19-23; I Cor 6:9-11.

30. I Thess 4:3-8; cf. Col 3:5-7; I Tim 1:10.

31. Eph 5:3-8; cf. 4:18-19.

32. I Cor 6:15, 18-20.

33. Cf. Rom 7:23.

34. Cf. Rom 7:24-25.

35. Cf. Rom 8:2.

36. Rom 6:12.

37. I Jn 5:19.

38. Cf. I Cor 10:13.

39. Eph 6:11.

40. Ct Eph 6:16, 18.

41. Ct I Cor 9:27.

42. Lk 9:23.

43. II Tim 2:11-12.

44. Second Vatican Ecumenical Council decree “Inter Mirifica,” 6 AAS 56 (1964), p. 147.

45. “Gravissimum Educationis,” 1: AAS 58 (1966), p. 730.

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71 posted on 03/02/2014 3:24:48 PM PST by stanne
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