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Russia Has Operational Control of Crimea, U.S. Official Says
Wall Street Journal ^ | 2 Mar 14 | Streaming Coverage

Posted on 03/02/2014 2:59:03 PM PST by xzins

Russia Now Has More Than 6,000 Airborne, Naval Forces in Crimea, Official Says

(Excerpt) Read more at stream.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: control; crime; crimea; kerry; official; operational; putin; russia; ukraine
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Any truth to reports of loud explosions near Sevastopol?


61 posted on 03/02/2014 4:10:57 PM PST by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: GeronL

I agree. However, strategic, tactical, and operational control mean different things.

Strategic: long term control of an area
Tactical: short term advantage and systems superiority
Operational: networks covering and controlling area have become routine

We will soon learn that Putin has long term control. (I think reality is that he already does. Barry’s barbs are just a yappy dog, a Chihuahua yapping his nervousness.)


62 posted on 03/02/2014 4:14:22 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Jacob Kell

They will never know the true body count .
Whole regions were depopulated or deported.
Stalin murdered whole groups and whole regions in massive waves and then killed the people who killed those people.


63 posted on 03/02/2014 4:15:13 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Old Sarge

thats what this guy was predicting at the DM and he looks right.


64 posted on 03/02/2014 4:17:04 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: xzins

I recall reading was he was very high up at the KGB and alot of KGB officials in Russia went into in hiding during Yeltsin period when ordinary people were seeking revenge for dead family members but since he did all dirty work in Germany he was not disliked by the Yeltsin camp.
So he was like the last man standing at the KGB that had no Moscow enemies but Yeltsin needed him to attract some of the old guard from creating a civil war.
What a mistake by Yeltsin and his camp.


65 posted on 03/02/2014 4:25:44 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ncalburt

Putin is very capable. Obama is not.

Putin rose to the top. Obama was placed at the top.

Putin is decisive. Obama is flaccid.

Putin is ruthless. Obama is an accomplished liar.

Putin will act independently. Obama must have a system to manipulate.

So, in a straight game of raw power, Putin will beat Obama every time.


66 posted on 03/02/2014 4:32:30 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: ncalburt
So your justifying an invasion by a ruthless Russian tyrant because he wanted the property

No. I think Europe should be restored to pre-1939 borders. That should make everyone happy.

67 posted on 03/02/2014 4:37:20 PM PST by PAR35
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To: xzins

Meanwhile, Obama will visit CT (again) to discuss raising the minimum wage. Glad he solved the Ukraine thing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3128826/posts


68 posted on 03/02/2014 4:38:15 PM PST by matt04
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To: PAR35
No. I think Europe should be restored to pre-1939 borders. That should make everyone happy.

With one exception...Poland gets East Prussia as well.

69 posted on 03/02/2014 4:39:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ncalburt

“Stalin murdered whole groups and whole regions in massive waves and then killed the people who killed those people.”

Absolutely. Westerners cannot fathom this. Their minds cannot process the rationale behind it. It is as if it never happened. Like Libs, they reject reality which is beyond their reasoning.

Also largely absent from popular Western historical record is the mass killings by the Soviet Army on their westward advance ‘43 - ‘45. They had a strategic tactic of forcing entire city populations to advance in front of their troops during offenses to clear minefields and overwhelm German defenders. In a single battle on the Dnieper loop 250,000 civilians perished ‘assaulting’ the eastern bank in this fashion. This strategy was also followed by Mao and Giap during the Korean and Vietnam wars. It is Soviet doctrine.


70 posted on 03/02/2014 4:41:13 PM PST by Justa
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To: Justa

Look at what Stalin did to the leaders of the defense of Leningrad.

Or the returning Red Army prisoners of war, “Operation Keelhaul” is a stain on Eisenhower’s legacy.


71 posted on 03/02/2014 4:43:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

No, there should be something for everyone, and the Germans should get something out of the deal. I’d let France keep Alsace. Or should we roll back to 1890 and give the Brits Helgoland.


72 posted on 03/02/2014 4:44:32 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

They get Silesia back.


73 posted on 03/02/2014 4:45:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ncalburt

>They will never know the true body count.

Maybe so, but the 3 million+ figure I posted was a modern calculation which used demographic data, including some recently accessed from Soviet archives. It was done by Stanislav Kulchytsky, if you’re curious about who.
BTW, the Ukraine wasn’t the only area hit by famine-southern Russia suffered as much, and there were other areas that were affected somewhat, like Kazakhstan and the Volga region. Ukrainians may have been the largest group affected, but they weren’t alone.


74 posted on 03/02/2014 4:45:29 PM PST by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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To: Justa

then those thousands of soviet troops were sent to death camps by Stalin because they knew what happen so these facts were never told to there families and friends and tgeybexposed to thevwest.

I am shocked how many uneducated posters who think Putin is just great.
and why not just give him Crimea .
These people just left evil Russian tyranny and dragged back under it again.
He is a monster who rose up in the KGB by enslavening the East German population.


75 posted on 03/02/2014 4:49:21 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: dfwgator

And the 2 million Cossacks and their families in Czechoslovakia returned to the Soviets by Churchill and Truman. The smart ones committed suicide. The rest were sent back by train and disembarked in quarries and machine-gunned.

We had 24,000 POWs we were trying to get back from the Soviets after the war. They trickled some back over decades at the price of millions of dead anti-communists. In the end a great many US WWII servicemen died in Soviet gulags and mines anyways. IMO this was the cause of the Cold War. It was Stalin’s doing. He did not return our POWs and killed most returned Russians.


76 posted on 03/02/2014 4:54:32 PM PST by Justa
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To: SpaceBar

What’s fun is that the G8 is supposed to meet in Sochi fairly soon.


77 posted on 03/02/2014 4:55:49 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: mulder1

Any truth to reports of loud explosions near Sevastopol?
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78 posted on 03/02/2014 4:55:50 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: xzins

Obama is obviously not really in charge at all.
He did not even attend the nsa briefing about it.
Who the hell is really in charge ?
Valerie Jarrett ?
The Daley Machine ?


79 posted on 03/02/2014 4:58:25 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ncalburt

There is not a single point of strength in that entire administration.

The single best democrat of the past couple decades was Zell Miller. There isn’t anyone remotely of that caliber in national leadership.

Not one. No one is in charge.


80 posted on 03/02/2014 5:04:47 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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