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To: Grzegorz 246

What action? It is very strange to see Pole who loves Ukrainian nationalist.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 2:06:39 AM PST by cunning_fish
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Just eat your borscht before it gets cold.


8 posted on 03/03/2014 2:15:05 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: cunning_fish
It is very strange to see Pole who loves Ukrainian nationalist.

Poland's political class (Tusk,Sikhorski,et al) have generally been quite feckless throughout this crisis

26 posted on 03/03/2014 5:38:34 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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What action? It is very strange to see Pole who loves Ukrainian nationalist.

Why would it be strange? For Poland, Ukraine is a vital buffer state. The one thing none of Ukraine's western neighbors wants is Russian troops on their border. Russia always gives this nonsensical line about needing vast territories because it has been invaded in the past. The reality is that Russia has done a lot of its own invading, and every one of its neighbors has had to deal with Russian aggressiveness including, most recently, over 4 decades of totalitarian rule under murderous communists handpicked in the Kremlin. Vis-a-vis Poland, Russians invaded Poland more than once, signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that paved the way for the Holocaust that killed millions of Poles, slaughtered more Poles at Katyn, were responsible for deliberately giving time for the Nazis to crush the Warsaw Uprising and finally imposed decades of totalitarian rule on Poland. Nothing the Ukrainians did - in the course of being attacked on all sides - can hold a candle to Russia's history with Poland.

Another bit I find especially amusing is the story about how Russia contributed enormously to Nazi Germany's defeat. It's literally true, but only after Russia contributed enormously to Nazi Germany's victories in the West by signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and serving as Germany's quartermaster for its blitzkrieg on the Western front. In effect, Russia helped put out a fire it helped set, but only after it had burned down much of the neighborhood and killed many of its neighbors (in the form of battle and concentration camp deaths in territories that would not have been conquered had Russia not given the Germans a free hand).. Ultimately, today's Russia is what Germany would have been like without a de-Nazification campaign. Russians think they saved the world, when they poured gasoline on it and struck a match. After WWII, they continued with a wicked campaign of spreading Godless totalitarianism with guns and Stalin-worshipers while urging the mass murder of class enemies. While I understand the tribal reflexes of ethnic Russians and pro-Russian Slavs, non-Russian Russophiles are overlooking a lot of things.

61 posted on 03/03/2014 3:44:06 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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