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An Absolute Right to Refuse Service
Townhall.com ^ | March 3, 2014 | Matt Barber

Posted on 03/03/2014 8:55:22 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: meadsjn

We can clearly see whom you hate.


41 posted on 03/03/2014 5:31:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
We can clearly see whom you hate.

Probably not. I detest stupid people who mindlessly set back the causes for freedom for themselves and countless others.

If you see something other than that, then no, you do not see clearly.

42 posted on 03/03/2014 7:06:50 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

God never guaranteed that doing right would get you applause.


43 posted on 03/03/2014 8:50:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: lightman

Placemark


44 posted on 03/03/2014 9:42:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
God never guaranteed that doing right would get you applause.

There is nothing right or Godly about submitting legislation loaded with preferential, unprincipled and nonsensical religious jargon that is most likely to get vetoed, or most likely to get thrown out in the judicial process.

This particular issue in AZ would have passed legal muster had it simply provided every person or business the right to refuse service to anyone, period, with appropriate exceptions noted for life-threatening emergencies.

That would be equal treatment under the law. That would be principled. That would be right and Godly.

Such a legally principled point of view is not sufficient for some unprincipled religious fruitcakes, such as the ones who crafted the Arizona bill. Their demands for preferential treatment to be encoded within the law, using their peculiar brand of nonlegal jargon, is just as much an abomination to constitutional law as are the demands of gays, minorities, illegal aliens, and other groups for their groups' preferential treatment to be encoded within the legislation, using the peculiar nonlegal jargon of their respective groups.

45 posted on 03/04/2014 12:02:49 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

There are signs up in many establishment that simply state, NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO SERVICE.

Yet I have to face going to the Mall or other high crime shopping areas with OUT MY CCW LEGAL GUN, my child’s SOCIOPATH killer has made threats, and he now walks a free man after serving only a fraction of a BAD PLEA DEAL that took 2 years to reach, thanks to the RINO prosecutor. God had nothing to do with this man made nonsense.


46 posted on 03/04/2014 12:21:05 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA

I agree. People have the right to keep and bear arms. People have the right to defend their life, liberty, and property.


47 posted on 03/04/2014 1:05:54 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: unlearner

Memphis city schools are 95% black, 4% Hispanic and 1% white. Who is the minority there?

County schools reflect the population in percentages.

Last time I checked America is a Polyglot nation. I can trace down my mom’s side to Scot, English, German, French and a tad of Cherokee. My 2 younger siblings have a different father, they can add Italian to their ancestry besides our mom’s.


48 posted on 03/04/2014 5:51:03 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA

Yeah, I am very familiar with that school system. What we learn from the integration issue is that people still tend to live near and associate with whomever they want to. You can bus people across town to reach certain quotas but it does not really change people.

I think that church is the only place where true racial equality can happen. The secular version of equality is to try to force equality because the government really has no power to change people or human nature.

Further, racial equality and many other leftist ideals (I say ideal because the left has many goals which are never achieved no matter how much power and control they obtain) are in the domain of religion. The left cannot separate its religious dogma from the legal realm. They are determined to force everyone to comply with their religious views.

When it comes to homosexuality, they first claimed they just wanted privacy (sexual morality based on the principle of consenting adults). Then they wanted tolerance if homosexual acts become known. (This is what the supreme court ruled on against Texas in the manufactured case from Dallas which essentially made homosexual acts legal everywhere.) Then they no longer wanted privacy. (Clinton’s first act as president was to implement “don’t ask, don’t tell” in the military, which was considered major progress for homosexuals at the time. Now that policy is supposed to be discriminatory.). Homosexuality must be openly praised, embraced, and celebrated. But that is still not enough. They want those who oppose homosexuality to be forced to support it. They want to punish and penalize any opposition. But they will NEVER be satisfied. They will not be satisfied to beat down people’s doors and rape their families like the men of Sodom wanted to do. They are currently demanding access to all children. They can be foster parents and adopt children in all 50 states. But they want access to all children through the public schools.

The Nazi movement was started by and made up of homosexuals. We are seeing the same pattern here in the USA. Germany was the most tolerant nation in Europe when the homosexual Nazi’s rose to power. They will continue to move the entire world toward the worst and most abusive kind of tyranny that exists until they are stopped.


49 posted on 03/04/2014 10:38:50 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Kaslin
Albert Einstein once said, “Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands it.”

He was right.

Unfortunately for the analogy, Einstein was a big lefty, which means he had in mind only leftists disobeying conservative laws. He'd doubtless be a cheerleader for "gay marriage" if he were around today.

Martin Luther King Jr. once said, “An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.”

Ditto, despite what his conservative relatives are saying.

So, liberals, knock off the Alinskyite obfuscation and conflation. Quit throwing around all this “Jim Crow” crap.

Liberals should have been made to understand from the outset that "jim crow" was wrong not because it violated secular standards of justice (which ultimately don't even exist), but Divine ones. But nobody, not even conservatives, want to talk about Divine law.

My personal opinion is that conservatives are going to have to adopt leftist tactics--mass resistance, protests, going to jail--to even begin to make headway on this issue.

50 posted on 03/04/2014 10:48:51 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: meadsjn

It is none of those things you accuse it of. It uses language that is well precedented in judicial decisions.

If the applause of the left is what drives you, you might as well pick up your marbles and go home, we do not need you.


51 posted on 03/04/2014 11:35:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If the applause of the left is what drives you, you might as well pick up your marbles and go home, we do not need you.

The left does not applaud constitutional conservatives.

They do, however, relish every public political effort of the evangelical fruitcakes, because you people maintain a solid record of 100% failure in the political and legal arenas.

The only problem with that is that all conservatives get the blame for the idiocy of the religious fruitcakes. It's almost like socons are secretly working for the Democrat party (shades of William Jennings Bryan).

There was a real good reason the communist National Education Association was such a big, big donor to Mike Huckabee's campaigns. Having goobers like him out there pretending to represent the Republican Party cuts the Democrat's campaign work in half.

52 posted on 03/04/2014 11:53:56 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

You know the high profile failures like any mocker of God’s children, but totally ignore the successes. See, for example, aclj.org.

Nonetheless, I personally have been preaching that gospel outreach, very much outside of a political context, should increase. People should be reminded about why they should care about God and this effort needs to transcend the superficiality of politics. Without such a foundation, yes it is possible for too-energetic efforts in the political arena to backfire.


53 posted on 03/04/2014 12:05:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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