Posted on 03/04/2014 11:52:34 AM PST by Dave346
Russian troop presence in Crimea compared to what Germans did in Sudetenland in 1938
Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird has compared Russia's troop presence in Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula to Hitler's invasion of Sudetenland, a part of the former Czechoslovakia, in 1938.
Baird, speaking to host Evan Solomon on CBC News Network's Power & Politics, accused Russia of invading and occupying Crimea, a part of Ukraine. "If it's not war, it's akin to war," he said.
At first, Baird said the situation was "right out of the Cold War." When Solomon pointed out Putin claims he is protecting Russian rights in Crimea, which has a majority of Russian-speaking citizens, Baird said, "The Sudetenland had a majority of Germans. That gave Germany no right to do this in the late 1930s."
Asked by Solomon if he was making a comparison to the Nazis, Baird replied, "When you have one country invading one of its neighbours, and using this type of outrageous and ludicrous rhetoric, it's hard not to."
Baird noted that no Russian in Crimea has been killed during the protests in Ukraine.
In 1938, Hitler sent in troops to occupy Sudetenland, a region on Germany's border populated largely by Sudeten Germans. The takeover was one of the precursors of the Second World War.
Government monitors Ukraine crisis
Baird's comments came after a series of events that show the Canadian government is actively monitoring the crisis in Ukraine, with Prime Minister Stephen Harper speaking to Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the interim prime minister of Ukraine, this morning.
The Prime Minister's Office released a statement about Harper's phone conversation. "He expressed to Prime Minister Yatsenyuk that Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity must be respected and that the Ukrainian people must be free to determine their own future."
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But we must fear the Ukes because Neo-Nazis have been spotted among them!
Russian: they are all Nazis!
non-Russian: you guys are Communists.
Russian: c'mon, the Cold War is over.
I've noticed a disturbing number of pro-Russia freepers carrying this same message on behalf of Moscow. I guess all Putin has to do is call someone a 'fascist' and that makes anything he does okay. Pretty sad reasoning.
Neville Chamberlain looks a lot better after reading wartime correspondence between Churchill and FDR expressing concern that not enough British and American boys were dying to help the Soviets.
Baird, speaking to host Evan Solomon on CBC News Network's Power & Politics, accused Russia of invading and occupying Crimea, a part of Ukraine. "If it's not war, it's akin to war," he said.
I wonder whether John Baird knows the history of the Crimean Peninsula, that it was Russian for over 200 years. That would explain why most of the citizens are of Russian descent.
Does John Baird realize that the neo-Facists and thugs now dominating the protest movement, may be a greater danger?
I do not know who is Baird, but his comments demonstrate a twisted and warped view of WWII political history. Maybe he is hoping that you are a low information voter.
Hitler’s invasion
Hmm. And Bernie on Imus, this morning, played back a clip of Jon Stewart comparing Putin’s actions to ours in Iraq. they all agreed.
Damaging, those inept minds with microphones. No?
The World Jewish Congress has called for Svoboda to be banned because of its anti-Semitic beliefs and conduct.
Svoboda now has 6 ministers in the Kiev regime.
I would more closely liken it to Russia’s invasion of the Crimea in 1853...............same place............same ‘excuse’
From Wiki:
Russia and the Ottoman Empire went to war in October 1853 over Russia’s rights to protect Orthodox Christians [in Crimea].
Sudetenland was never part of Germany. Soon after taking it, the Nazis took over the rest of Czechoslovakia. The Soviet Union had a defense pact with the Czechs, but Britain and France folded. Nazis’ Lebensraum philosophy was that the master race would take over all Eastern Europe.
Crimea was Russian since 1783. Not seeking to incorporate any other nations within Russia.
Russia didn’t invade Crimea in 1853. It owned Crimea.
England, France and the Ottomans invaded Crimea.
Did the U.S. attack Japan at Pearl Harbor?
Actually, it would be the same if it were Austria that invaded Czechoslovakia.
Imagine some geopolitical earthquake whereby Mexico got NM, AZ, and CA back.
Twenty years later, fortunes shift and we have a chance to take them back. We would do it, wouldn’t we?
It was a long time ago. I was younger then............ memory fades...............
You are repeating Putin’s propaganda like a good useful idiot. What are you Putin lovers doing on FR?
See post 7 for an example of useful idiocy from a Putinbot.
It wasn’t over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor and it isn’t over now.
Excellent point.
..And DemshateGod introduces Baird to the word hyperbole.
1783: Russia annexed Crimea.
1853: The Crimean War began, lasting three years. Russia lost to an alliance of the Ottoman Empire, France, Britain and Sardinia. Crimea remained part of Russia.
1917: Crimea briefly became a sovereign state before becoming a base for the White Army of anti-Bolshevik forces in the Russian War.
1921: The peninsula, now called the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, became part of the Soviet Union.
1942: Nazi Germany took control of Crimea.
1944: Joesph Stalin forcibly deported all Muslim Tatars, a group of 300,000 who had lived on the peninsula for centuries, due to members’ alleged cooperation with Germany during World War II. Many returned to Crimea in the 1980s and 1990s.
1945: After World War II, the autonomous Soviet republic was dissolved and Crimea became a province of the Soviet Union called the Crimean Oblast.
1954: Russian Premier Nikita Khrushchev transferred the Crimean Oblast to Ukraine. It’s often reported that it was a gesture of goodwill from Khrushchev, who had Ukrainian roots.
1991: The Soviet Union collapsed. Many expected President Boris Yeltsin, the new president of the Russian Federation, to take Crimea for Russia. But he didn’t bring it up during negotiations with Ukraine.
1997: Ukraine and Russia signed a treaty that allowed Russia to keep its fleet in Sevastopol. The agreement’s since been extended, so the fleet is set to remain there until at least 2042.
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