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Russia Sinks Ship to Block Ukrainian Navy Ships
Naval Today.com ^ | Mar 6th, 2014

Posted on 03/06/2014 5:48:57 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum

The Russian Navy Ochakov Kara-class cruiser was sunk last night to block the Ukrainian Navy ships deployed in Novoozerne, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence said in a press release today.

The information was confirmed by the Ukrainian military of the South Naval Base who were observing the operation.

The RF ships blocking the Ukrainian ships in Donuzlav lake in the Crimea left the zone at 23.30 p.m. (March 5).

Then, the Russian military towed their ship Ochakov to the navigating channel and filled her with water. Then, there was an explosion. The depth in this area is 9-11 m, it is possible now to observe the upper part of the ship. Therefore, the ships cannot leave the Donuzlav lake. It is needed a lot of time and costs to refloat this ship, according to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
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1 posted on 03/06/2014 5:48:57 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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2 posted on 03/06/2014 5:49:49 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: maggief; hoosiermama; TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; Nachum; ...

Ping


3 posted on 03/06/2014 5:52:06 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

So, they scuttled an old 1960s era vessel to block the harbor and bottle the few Ukrainian vessels in there...the largest surface combatants of which are corvettes.


4 posted on 03/06/2014 5:52:29 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Focault's Pendulum

That’s an interesting move.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 5:53:40 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Can we do the same with an old plane by placing it on the runway at Andrews AFB?


6 posted on 03/06/2014 5:56:02 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Oh my

judas priest

this is an act of war, a provocation that is just as bad as any

If only Neville Chamberlain weren’t our leader


7 posted on 03/06/2014 5:56:18 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Kremlin reporting the move is just an effort to create an artificial reef for sea life.


8 posted on 03/06/2014 5:58:50 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: F15Eagle

The Russians sank their own ship....yes...interesting.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 5:58:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Did somebody’s loose lips do that???

On second thought it looks like a rust bucket.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 6:00:08 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Ronald_Magnus

what a bald faced lie

this whole plan is meticulously laid out and being executed step by step

and from I can tell, no one can stop this predator


11 posted on 03/06/2014 6:01:00 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mouton
“Can we do the same with an old plane by placing it on the runway at Andrews AFB?”

I presume your intent in to keep them from returning?

12 posted on 03/06/2014 6:01:57 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: Mouton
If only South Africa had kept him. I think the Mooch was gonna let him have it.






13 posted on 03/06/2014 6:02:41 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: yldstrk

Hmmmm. I didn’t think it was necessary to put the sarcasm tag on my post. I was wrong.


14 posted on 03/06/2014 6:04:40 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s odd they’re concerned about naval vessels.

Hope everyone is keeping their gas tank filled up, etc.


15 posted on 03/06/2014 6:04:41 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

you always have to put the sarc tag, but I thought you were serious, that the Russkies had said that, sorry, I meant a bald faced lie on the part of the Russkies


16 posted on 03/06/2014 6:06:41 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: F15Eagle

That’s an interesting move.


No, it’s an act of war. There is already enough evidence to open a war crimes investigation against Putin in the Hague.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 6:08:32 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Mouton
Oops, the fourth pic in the series


18 posted on 03/06/2014 6:09:16 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Mouton

LOL!


19 posted on 03/06/2014 6:09:33 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mouton

LOL...there are tons of old ones in Arizona!


20 posted on 03/06/2014 6:09:37 AM PST by gr8eman (But thermodynamics is just a social construct, created by the ruling white power structure)
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To: yldstrk

No problem. I knew you meant the Ruskies were lying.


21 posted on 03/06/2014 6:10:28 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: lodi90

Oh I don’t disagree. You kinda had to read between the lines of my comment there.


22 posted on 03/06/2014 6:12:26 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

OK, so why aren’t the environmentalist wackos all over this one.


23 posted on 03/06/2014 6:14:37 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr

because they love Commies


24 posted on 03/06/2014 6:15:17 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Vlad is really losing face here on FR, only weeks after there was a FR/Putin lovefest over his restrictions on gay propaganda.

Had he said he was sinking the vessel to keep Ukrainian gays from infiltrating mother Russia, he might have gotten some of that love back.


25 posted on 03/06/2014 6:18:08 AM PST by dmz
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Instant garbage—just add water.


26 posted on 03/06/2014 6:19:40 AM PST by windcliff
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To: yldstrk

Neville Chamberlain??

President - Albert François Lebrun, President of France (1932–1940)


27 posted on 03/06/2014 6:20:26 AM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RaceBannon

yes, you are right

Thank you for bringing Lebrun to my attention


28 posted on 03/06/2014 6:28:05 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Do you think they’d mind if we block the Bosphorus?


29 posted on 03/06/2014 6:30:06 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Focault's Pendulum

I think we’ve all been waiting for the Russians to provoke the Ukrainians into shooting.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 6:34:05 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: yldstrk

So if we had a different leader, we would go to war with Russia, or Russia wouldn’t do this? Why would they not do this, no matter who was in charge here, as it is obvious we wouldn’t go to war over it. I am as unimpressed with Obama as anyone, but this is all about Putin.


31 posted on 03/06/2014 6:39:53 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

That's not how this is supposed to work.

32 posted on 03/06/2014 6:43:23 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: PghBaldy

There are a lot of things that could have prevented or stopped Putin, none of which included a shooting war.

Russia is a 3rd World Country desperate to sell the only thing anyone else sees they have as valuable, Natural Gas.


33 posted on 03/06/2014 6:45:44 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: F15Eagle
Look at it from both directions because it likely blocks both ingress and egress.

IIRC, this "blockade of a sort" was used during the revolutionary war to trap the British ships after they had entered the Chesapeake. (This is from memory...might have to retract.)

It led to "The World Turned Upside Down".

34 posted on 03/06/2014 6:53:21 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: PghBaldy

So if we had a different leader, we would go to war with Russia, or Russia wouldn’t do this? Why would they not do this, no matter who was in charge here, as it is obvious we wouldn’t go to war over it. I am as unimpressed with Obama as anyone, but this is all about Putin.


You don’t have to go to war. You just have to respond in a robust way to terroristic acts like invading the neighbor of a NATO country with a fifth column. Significant economic sanctions and NATO redeployment for an opening move would have given Putin pause. It must be made clear to Putin that if he wants to be a terrorist it is going to be painful and costly. That hasn’t happened so he will continue escalating. His adventures won’t end until we have shooting in a NATO country. Then what?


35 posted on 03/06/2014 6:56:46 AM PST by lodi90
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To: PghBaldy

If our administration hadn’t signaled its weakness ever since 2008, we wouldn’t be here at all

now we are helpless in the face of aggression

no, we can’t go to war now, we couldn’t fight our way out a wet paper bag at this point with our depleted armed forces, but it is a very similar situation to the one that started in 1938, so let’s see where we are in about 4-5 years, how much Russia has gobbled up


36 posted on 03/06/2014 6:57:01 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: dmz

And he looks manly on a horse; so he must be a good guy. /s


37 posted on 03/06/2014 6:57:04 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

In retaliation Barack Obama has ordered the sinking of the the USS Ronald Reagan. “Ha! Top THAT Putin!”


38 posted on 03/06/2014 6:57:57 AM PST by Daus
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To: Focault's Pendulum

It would be a pity if anyone blocked the Bosporus...


39 posted on 03/06/2014 7:01:51 AM PST by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: lodi90

~~~His adventures won’t end until we have shooting in a NATO country. Then what?~~~

I had similar concerns when Turkey was talking about sending warships to escort “Gaza relief” against Israel.

That could put NATO into war against Israel. Not that some of NATO probably supports that.

Oy vey. And Comrade Obama could use a huge distraction from the so-called “economy”, Lois Lerner, etc. etc. etc.


40 posted on 03/06/2014 7:02:16 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: fruser1

As you say...


41 posted on 03/06/2014 7:04:37 AM PST by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

And was the act of a local security force who bought the explosives at a convenience store. ;-)


42 posted on 03/06/2014 7:06:07 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

What’s next? Fire ships?


43 posted on 03/06/2014 7:10:20 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: F15Eagle

Take a look at Narva, Estonia. 93% Russian speaking and on the border with Russia. Russia was humiliated by Estonia in 2007 when they took down a famous WW2 Red Army memorial. They want payback. If Putin senses weakness now he might decide its time to roll tanks into a FSU NATO country. Estonia will invoke article 5. Then what? Shooting war with Russia or the end of NATO. It’s pretty easy to see where this is headed if Putin is not dealt with firmly now. That’s why this is so important. It’s about far more than Crimea.


44 posted on 03/06/2014 7:11:34 AM PST by lodi90
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To: yldstrk

Quisling comes to mind.


45 posted on 03/06/2014 7:13:47 AM PST by stboz
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To: lodi90

Bingo


46 posted on 03/06/2014 7:16:49 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

I don’t really know which side is right on this. It could be they are both wrong. All I know is that if you really want to get things screwed up, let Hillary and Obama get involved and fix things like they did in Libya. That really worked out.


47 posted on 03/06/2014 7:17:11 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Naval blockades are considered acts of war.


48 posted on 03/06/2014 7:18:19 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Ukrains are not stuopoid -

they know Russia`s underbelly is Moscow.

All they goona do is ally with the Chechens to send couple nice-looking broads to Moscow to blow up their subways agin bigtime.

Watch for it!

49 posted on 03/06/2014 7:18:40 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: F15Eagle

Dredge.


50 posted on 03/06/2014 7:20:42 AM PST by Paladin2
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