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Crimea threatens secession; U.S. imposes sanctions
Detroit Free Press - USA Today | March 6, 2014

Posted on 03/06/2014 10:40:53 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Obama places restrictions and sanctions on anyone "threatening the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; crimeasecession; obama; putin; russia; sanctions; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
Too bad Dear Leader is not this concerned about AMERICAN sovereignty and integrity.
1 posted on 03/06/2014 10:40:53 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

When Yugoslavia was breaking apart based upon ethnic groups, this was GOOD. But if the Ukraine breaks up based upon ethnic identity, that is BAD.

4 legs good, 2 legs bad.

Ridiculous.


2 posted on 03/06/2014 10:43:07 AM PST by Arthurio
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To: Jim Robinson

Can’t have the people of Crimea practicing the age-old American Tradition of Self-Determination, now can we?!


3 posted on 03/06/2014 10:43:13 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Come now. Soros has been working long and hard to grab this asset. Who are the Crimeans and Russians to thwart history’s most successful kapo?

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/george-soros-calls-on-the-eu—and-germany-in-particular—to-take-the-lead#43YDGG97ocMPRw8x.99


4 posted on 03/06/2014 10:56:20 AM PST by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here, Pharaoh.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Abe Lincoln used his power as president to kill the sovereignty of the states.

Now Obama wants to do the same thing to foreign countries.

If Obama had been President of France in 1776 they would have never come to our aid in the revolutionary war.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 10:59:24 AM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Arthurio

Remember the EU initially supported the integrity of Yugoslavia. It wasn’t until the Germans broke rank and recognized Croatia that the rest of the EU started to opt for a break-up of Yugoslavia. By then it was too late to stop the ethnic cleansings and the war(s).

If there is one thing I am certain of it is that the EU and the US have learnt nothing from the Yugoslav crisis.


6 posted on 03/06/2014 11:02:24 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
The mistake you make is in failing to see that our State Department has many career types who have been pushing theories intended to push towards World Government for the past two generations or more. The foreign policy of Washington & Jefferson was to treat all Mankind with respect--so long as we got respect back--but never to interfere in the domestic affairs of other nations.

It was this policy that guided us from birth of the Union to being the most respected, most prosperous peoples on earth by the eve of World War I. The tragedy is that so few really understand the dynamic factors involved in that phenomenal rise--nor how badly we have compromised our future freedom of action by allowing that cadre of World Government seekers to undermine our heritage.

No one is suggesting--and no one suggested in 1789 to 1917--that we isolate ourselves from the other peoples of the earth. As Jefferson put it, as Washington's Secretary of State, you should "punish the first insult," because of the mischief it will lead to. But the idea that we are supposed to police the world is not a patriotic one--quite the opposite.

It is also very obvious that Obama is a hypocrite for the ages. Russia has a legitimate interest in the Crimea. Obama's role in the overthrow of the former President of Egypt, in something labeled the Arab Spring, has no such legitimate basis--nor is there such for his antics putting American forces at risk in tropical Africa, at this time.

William Flax

7 posted on 03/06/2014 11:23:40 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Arthurio
See my reply #7.

Obama is continuing--and even extending--the radical foreign policy of Dean Rusk from the 1960s, which is--and was--intended to undermine traditional ethnic identity, in favor of conglomerations in regional borders. Under that policy, we have witnessed major intrusions against American interests, to suppress the aspirations of other peoples--often in the name of something precisely opposite to that reality.

For a discussion of some of the issues from a traditional American perspective, see An American Foreign Policy.

William Flax

8 posted on 03/06/2014 11:33:19 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Jim Robinson

This screw tape is such a phony. People actually voted for him 2x.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 11:41:51 AM PST by virgil
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To: everyone

10 posted on 03/06/2014 11:44:20 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Ohioan
I wasn't really commenting on the US in my previous post. It is possible the US could have stayed out of WWI and the Allies would have won anyway. During the interwar years the US policy was mainly isolationist, but in the end it wasn't enough to keep the US out of the war. It is very unlikely that the US would have been able to retreat back to an isolationist stand - not least due to the fact of the invention of the nuclear bomb.

But even without discussing the pros and cons of the “interventionist” and the “realist” schools in the State Department it must be obvious to everyone that the intervention, not to say fomentation of the Arab Spring and now the “Ukrainian spring” have been two policy failures of immense magnitude.

11 posted on 03/06/2014 11:47:39 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
There is a major difference between the Washington/Jefferson foreign policy, and what you choose to call "isolationist."

One can make an argument for our involvement in World War I, and some of those that followed under the concept of punishing a deliberate attack on our interests (Jefferson's "first insult," such as the unrestricted resumption of submarine attacks, etc..) What I am attacking, is not all our foreign involvements, since 1917--quite the contrary. I am attacking those motivated by a desire to push Mankind towards some form of intrusive World Government. There is a major difference.

Obama, here, is deliberately meddling in the internal affairs of nations in the European sphere, a course specifically addressed by President Washington. There is no way that this sanctimonious blather--this imposition of "sanctions" on a subjective basis (not necessarily specific to any actual individual) serves any clear American interest. And that subjective form can only make us look ridiculous.

William Flax

12 posted on 03/06/2014 12:07:32 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: onyx

obama took away Ukraine’s weapons. There was also an agreement that USA would protect Ukraine. We need to check out our own history. Here’s a tiny nugget which may be biting bozo right now:

https://web.archive.org/web/20080617231047/http://obama.senate.gov/press/070111-lugar-obama_non


13 posted on 03/06/2014 1:47:52 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Jim Robinson
"Too bad Dear Leader is not this concerned about AMERICAN sovereignty and integrity"

He is. We're just on the wrong side of the border.

14 posted on 03/06/2014 1:50:01 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Jim Robinson

Texas needs to pay close attention to the presidents response : )


15 posted on 03/06/2014 1:55:21 PM PST by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: Jim Robinson
"threatening the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."

Did our one-world-for-all, admin really say the 'sovereignty' word? Seriously? OMG. I don't know whether to laugh or pull my hair out.

Hey Obama..only a dog pees on his territory. You need to evolve and embrace diversity, dude. /s

16 posted on 03/06/2014 2:00:15 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Ohioan

Very good post.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 2:16:35 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: onyx

Wow! That’s putting it succinctly.


18 posted on 03/06/2014 2:17:17 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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