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CPAC Immigration Panelist: ‘Latino Voters Are the Reagan Democrats of Today’
National Review ^ | 3/7/2014

Posted on 03/07/2014 6:55:59 PM PST by Altura Ct.

Two participants in a panel on immigration at CPAC today expressed confidence in their closing statements that Hispanic immigrants will be a source of future votes for the Republican party. “Latino voters are the Reagan Democrats of today,” said Alfonso Aguilar, the executive director of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles. “I believe that the majority of them can actually be members of CPAC in the future,” concurred the Reverend Luis Cortés Jr.​

The panel was supposed to answer the question: “Can there be meaningful immigration reform without citizenship?”

Derrick Morgan, vice president of domestic policy at the Heritage Foundation, was the only one of four panelists to basically reject the premise of the question, saying that he wasn’t the best person to say whether legalization should include a path to citizenship since he didn’t think that Republicans should be pursuing a policy of comprehensive immigration reform at all right now: “I respectfully disagree with the policy of legalization with or without citizenship,” he said, instead favoring a piecemeal approach, beginning with enforcement. He noted that the current laws are not being enforced so “why would you trust this current administration” to implement a deal?

Aguilar vehemently disagreed: “Conservatives need to address immigration, and they need to do it now,” he said, adding that “our conservative base wants us to lead and legislate” on the issue. Alfonso said that in addition to immigrants doing the “jobs that Americans don’t want,” immigration “creates good-paying jobs for working-class Americans.”

Reverend Cortés declared that “immigration is the only policy matter where God agrees with God,” by which he meant, he explained, that all religious communities supported immigration reform — “even the Baha’i.”

The reverend warned that the Hispanic community is becoming alienated by Republican rhetoric on the issue, much like “African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights.” “The Hispanic community is about less government, it is afraid of big government,” he added.

At one point, Reverend Cortés took issue with Morgan’s use of the word “amnesty.” “If you look it up in the dictionary it means forgiveness at no cost,” he said, and it would not apply “if someone comes forward” and has to “do recompense” as he said Republicans are proposing to require of immigrants currently here illegally.

The fourth panelist, Helen Krieble​ of the Krieble Foundation, advocated for a large guest-worker program, and pushed for her organization’s “Red Card” solution.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cpac2014; immigration

1 posted on 03/07/2014 6:55:59 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

b/s


2 posted on 03/07/2014 6:56:43 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Oh.

No, they aren’t.


3 posted on 03/07/2014 6:57:07 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Altura Ct.

And we are supposed to vote for those who think like this?


5 posted on 03/07/2014 6:59:08 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

They’ll be voting Democrat for 200 years.

The Republicans need non Hispanic voters in the midwest to get to 270.


6 posted on 03/07/2014 7:01:12 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Altura Ct.

The criteria shouldn’t be whether illegal aliens are potentially Republican voters...the criteria should be whether a person who comes here does so respectful of our laws!


7 posted on 03/07/2014 7:06:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Altura Ct.
Why are the GOPe so eager to slit their own throats, electorally speaking?

Are they really that stupid, or are they just more interested in the short-term benefits of cheap labor for business than they are in the long-term benefits of preserving America?

8 posted on 03/07/2014 7:17:29 PM PST by Washi (Stop Obama's War On Jobs)
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To: Altura Ct.

Fine, let them become citizens the LEGAL WAY.


9 posted on 03/07/2014 7:19:10 PM PST by struggle
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To: Altura Ct.
RE: “African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights.”

I remember those days. That's true but here's the "rhetoric"

Being for the Tenth Amendment -- even if you were vehemently against the Jim Crow laws in some states -- you were denounced as a racist Republican.

If you were disturbed by the violent rioting and backed the local police in support of law and order you were denounced as a racist Republican.

It matter not one whit that Republicans out-voted Democrats in support of civil rights issues IIRC.

The Rockefeller Republicans like Nelson Rockefeller, Scranton, George Romney, et al. denounced fellow Republicans and anyone who supported Goldwater as "purveyors of hate" and virtual KKK members -- even if you were vehemently against the the Jim Crow laws in some states.

BTW, Reagan never, never, never promised presidential amnesty for Democratic Party members who needed it and voted for him.. so in no way are ILLEGAL aliens comparable to Reagan Democrats.

10 posted on 03/07/2014 7:19:22 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Altura Ct.

They COULD be, but they are more interested in the handouts than any other topic, and I speak of the overwhelming majority of “Latinos”.

I’ve spoken with “Latinos” in Southern California who are here legally and from my understanding, the bulk of those who actually believe in earning an honest living are not fans of illegals and are disgusted with them.


11 posted on 03/07/2014 7:21:04 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Conservatives can win over enough Hispanic voters to make the difference.

As proof that they are not a total lock for democrats, Hispanics who are Protestant voted 44% republican in 2000, 56% republican in 2004, and 48% republican in 2008.

We need to reach them, for instance in Texas many Hispanics voted against Davis in the primary, the GOP should be striking while their separation from her abortion message is fresh in their minds, we need to reinforce their suspicions that they are members of the wrong party, that they are supporting an unmasculine, immoral, exploitative, backwards looking party that doesn’t reflect qualities that Hispanics generally respect in individuals and in self identity.


12 posted on 03/07/2014 7:23:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Whow)
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To: Altura Ct.
I beg to differ. We have been told for over thirty years that Latinos were really conservative and just dying to become Republicans. The last few elections have proved that to be false. Hispanic Americans voted democrat by a margin of something like 75-25 in the last three or four elections. I do not think more than 35% have ever voted Republican. Even for Reagan.
That old buzzard ain't gonna fly no mo!
13 posted on 03/07/2014 7:25:14 PM PST by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Altura Ct.

CPAC going Tokyo Rose....


14 posted on 03/07/2014 7:30:57 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tupelo

“...I do not think more than 35% have ever voted Republican...”

I agree with you. While many Cubans and Salvadorans vote conservative they are NOT a majority. Even heartthrob Eduardo Verastegui could not lead many Mexi-fornians away from voting for Obama.


15 posted on 03/07/2014 7:31:26 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Altura Ct.
“African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights.”

They switched parties in 1936.

Up to and including 1932, they had always been GOP and voted about 70% GOP in 1932, then they permanently reversed in 1936, with 71% for the democrats, and always voting democrat since.

This is unlike anything natural in politics, an instant and total, and permanent, reversal, in a single election, and for the same president that they had just rejected by about 70%.

16 posted on 03/07/2014 7:32:45 PM PST by ansel12 (Whow)
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To: Altura Ct.
At one point, Reverend Cortés took issue with Morgan’s use of the word “amnesty.” “If you look it up in the dictionary it means forgiveness at no cost,” he said, and it would not apply “if someone comes forward” and has to “do recompense” as he said Republicans are proposing to require of immigrants currently here illegally.

I don't know what dictionary Cortes is using, but here's the one I saw:

"the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals."

Says nothing about cost. It says forgiveness, which is what AMNESTY is.

17 posted on 03/07/2014 7:33:50 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Right - and Democrats should try to court the NRA vote... they’re the Clinton Republicans...


18 posted on 03/07/2014 7:34:51 PM PST by GOPJ ("Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), always currying favor with the press...."(nailed) - William Bigelow)
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To: Altura Ct.

The root cause of the 1986 Amnesty Debacle was a lack of punishment for the Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico by Federal authorities in “both” political parties.

Now the States will have to take matters into their own hands, and all Hell will break loose.

Once again the US Federal Government has chosen to ignore their own laws.


19 posted on 03/07/2014 7:35:02 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: ansel12

I found my numbers.

Blacks voted 23% for FDR in 1932, when they were republican, then they voted 71% for FDR in 1936, when they made their group switch to the democrats.

That is not natural, it was a total and permanent reversal.


20 posted on 03/07/2014 7:40:51 PM PST by ansel12 (Whow)
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To: Altura Ct.

There are millions of Hispanics, citizens and non-citizens, in this country legally. I support them and wish them well. It is the others, the illegal aliens who must not be granted any path to citizenship. There is a great divide between the two groups and we should do what we can do to encourage and help the legal Hispanic community - not the other.


21 posted on 03/07/2014 7:41:29 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Two participants in a panel on immigration at CPAC today expressed confidence in their closing statements that Hispanic immigrants will be a source of future votes for the Republican party.

I see no evidence of a cold front approaching Hell, and I do not see any swine growing wings and taking to the air, so I am inclined to believe the Pubbies will get their vote in the year 9595, if man is still alive.

22 posted on 03/07/2014 7:48:55 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: elpadre
There is no divide between them, legal or illegal. They support the Democrats.


23 posted on 03/07/2014 7:49:58 PM PST by kabar
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To: elpadre
The Republican administration of the first Bush pressured the government of El Salvador to abolish this young man's effective anti-communist military organization. In fact the entire Guardia Nacional (fulltime soldiers/police), Policia de Hacienda, and the National Police were all abolished...and later the power of the "Maras" (criminal gangs) rose tremendously and caused problems in El Salvador and in the United States. Young operative of the Guardia Nacional stands guard at a coffee mill in Santiago de Maria, Usulutan, El Salvador, Circa 1989. Photo: Robert Meacham photo GNsantiagodeMariaUsulutan.jpg
24 posted on 03/07/2014 7:51:22 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: elpadre

There is a great divide between the two groups and we should do what we can do to encourage and help the legal Hispanic community - not the other.

Legal? Really? Do you mean support LaRaza? Or How about the ‘legal’ members of the the Hispanic Caucus? Perhaps the legal members of MEChA or maybe one of these. They are all legal.

Association of Hispanic Advertising Agencies (AHAA)

Association of Latino Professionals in Finance and Accounting (ALPFA)

Center for Multilingual Multicultural Research

Committee for Hispanic Children and Families (CHCF)

Concilio Hispano

Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute (CHCI)

Diversity Pipeline Alliance

El Centro de la Raza

Ethnic Majority

Farm Workers

Hispanic Agenda for Action

Hispanic Association of Colleges and Universities (HACU)

Hispanic Association on Corporate Responsibility (HACR)

Hispanic Broadcasting Corporation

Hispanic Business Women’s Alliance

Hispanic Chamber of E-Commerce

Hispanic College Fund

Hispanic Council on International Relations

Hispanic CREO

Hispanic Genealogy Center

Hispanic Heritage Awards Foundation

Hispanic Outlook on Higher Education Magazine

Hispanic Scholarship Fund

Hispanic Society of America

Hispanics Across America

Hispanics in Philantropy

HOPE

Immigrant Worker Resources

Latin American Health Institute

Latino Issues Forum

Latinos for America

League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC)

LLEGO

MANA. A National Latina Organization

Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund

Mexican American Opportunity Foundation

National Alliance for Hispanic Health

National Association for Bilingual Education

National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO)

National Conference of Puerto Rican Women (NACOPRW)

National Council of La Raza (NCLR)

National Hispanic Agenda Summit

National Hispanic Corporate Council (NHCC)

National Hispanic Council on Aging (NHCoA)

National Hispanic Foundation for the Arts

National Hispanic Medical Association (NHMA)

National Latino Children’s Institute (NLCI)

National Latino Peace Officers Association

National Latino Research Center

National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (NNIRR)

National Society for Hispanic Professionals (NSHP)

New American Alliance

New Democrat Network Hispanic Project

Nosotros

Reforma

Republican National Hispanic Assembly

Salvadoran American Leadership and Educational Fund (SALEF)

Scholarships for Hispanics

Self Reliance Foundation

SER-Jobs for Progress National, Inc.

Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers (SHPE)

Southwest Voter Registration Education Project (SVREP)

¡Soy Unica! ¡Soy Latina!

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute

The Democratic Party - Hispanic Vote

The Lagrant Foundation

The Latino Coalition

The Tomas Rivera Policy Institute

U.S. Govt. Information in Spanish

United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce (USHCC)

United States-Mexico Chamber of Commerce (USMCOC)

USHCC Foundation


25 posted on 03/07/2014 7:52:15 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.
No.

Are Hispanics that socially conservative?

I often hear in the media that Hispanics are “socially conservative.” For that sort of thing you do need “quick & dirty” rules-of-thumb, and the assertion seems broadly plausible. On the other hand, the Hispanic attitude toward gay marriage isn’t really that different from non-Hispanic white (see GSS MARHOMO variable). So I decided to query non-Hispanic white and Hispanic attitudes to a range of “hot-button” social issues in the GSS. I also broke it down by college vs. non-college educated cohorts. All results are from the year 2000 and later.


White non-Hispanic Hispanic






No college College No college College
Abortion on demand, yes 38 53 28 47
Abortion if serious defect, yes 75 70 67 79
Make divorce easier 23 16 44 28
Keep divorce laws same 23 34 17 40
Make divorce more difficult 55 50 38 32
Premarital sex always wrong 26 19 21 16
Premarital sex almost always wrong 8 8 10 7
Premarital sex sometimes wrong 18 23 20 13
Premarital sex not wrong at all 47 50 49 64
Homosexual sex always wrong 58 35 61 33
Homosexual sex almost always wrong 4 5 5 4
Homosexual sex sometimes wrong 6 11 7 9
Homosexual sex not wrong at all 32 48 27 55
Porn should be illegal to all 40 30 36 25
Porn should be illegal to under 18 57 67 60 70
Porn should be legal to all 3 3 4 4
Strongly favor spanking children 28 17 25 19
Favor spanking children 47 44 44 43
Do not favor spanking children 19 28 22 20
Strongly do not favor spanking children 6 11 9 17
Allow incurable patients to die 72 72 58 76
Strongly agree better for man to work, woman to tend home 10 5 14 9
Agree better for man to work, woman to tend home 31 19 32 16
Disagree better for man to work, woman to tend home 43 49 43 48
Strongly disagree better for man to work, woman to tend home 16 28 11 27

These results can be used to support the proposition that Hispanics are socially conservative. But they are not of the magnitude or direction of difference that one finds when comparing evangelical white Protestants to other whites, or even blacks to whites. So though technically defensible, I think the assertion that Hispanics are socially conservative in their attitudes misleads the public somewhat.

(unless the divorce results are mis-coded, they do seem correct)

26 posted on 03/07/2014 7:52:17 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Altura Ct.

Despite the fact that 70% of Hispanics vote Rat. Legalizing 11-20 million more of them is a recipe for permanent minorities for decades.


27 posted on 03/07/2014 8:00:30 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Theoria

The out of wedlock birth rate for Hispanics is 53%. What’s conservative about that?


28 posted on 03/07/2014 8:07:48 PM PST by kabar
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To: Altura Ct.

WHICH LATINO VOTERS?

It makes a huge difference which Latino voters one talks about. Latino voters themselves will tell you that there are huge differences among them.

Democrats are trying to roll them all into a single voting block that will vote Democrat. We can't let that happen.

There has to be some precision in separating Latinos that have come to America, are assimilating, and have embraced the American way, and those Latinos that came here for free stuff.

29 posted on 03/07/2014 8:09:37 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: Tupelo
I beg to differ. We have been told for over thirty years that Latinos were really conservative and just dying to become Republicans. The last few elections have proved that to be false.

It comes down to which wave they came in on.

Reagan was an inspiration. Immigrants can be inspired by a great leader of their new country just as much as the native people. Those that came in under Reagan are Reagan Latinos. And they do vote Republican.

The next wave came in under Clinton/Bush. What was their inspiration? New Latinos have been cultured into a very different world -- an uninspiring world.

That same thing has happened to millennials. Worse, they're cynical. They don't start families. They're unemployed.

If we can find someone that can inspire millennials, we'll have no trouble inspiring new immigrants. Amnesty wouldn't be a huge problem with such a leader.

But where is that leader today?

30 posted on 03/07/2014 8:19:39 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: Altura Ct.

The reverend warned that the Hispanic community is becoming alienated by Republican rhetoric on the issue, much like “African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights.” “The Hispanic community is about less government, it is afraid of big government,” he added.”

Sorry Reverend you are delusional. Republicans helped pass civil rights legislation in the early sixties. Hispanic immigrants are overwhelmingly dependent on government assistance.


31 posted on 03/07/2014 8:20:26 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Altura Ct.

I think if we sit down with Hispanics, I think you’ll see that they are conservative. That said, I think illegals should be sent back and pay fines and then ask to be an American citizen.


32 posted on 03/07/2014 8:29:57 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014: The Year of DEAD RINOS)
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To: kabar

I am an in my eighties and have lived in worked in several locations around the US and some outside the US. In my lifetime I have known quite a few Hispanics. Some were professionals - engineers and medical doctors - some worked in factories, usually as supervisors. And most of them Cuban or the Dominican Republic. They were all patriotic, some were veterans, and conservative. Am I supposed to equate them to the ones being described on this post?


33 posted on 03/07/2014 8:47:40 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre
I am an in my eighties and have lived in worked in several locations around the US and some outside the US. In my lifetime I have known quite a few Hispanics. Some were professionals - engineers and medical doctors - some worked in factories, usually as supervisors. And most of them Cuban or the Dominican Republic. They were all patriotic, some were veterans, and conservative. Am I supposed to equate them to the ones being described on this post?

I am in my 70s. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign born in this country; today it is one in 8, the highest it has been in 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. We have gone from 9.7 million foreign born in 1970 to 45 million today.

Here is a breakdown of the educational levels of immigrants, legal and illegal, compared to the native born. Our immigration policies are importing poverty thru mostly unskilled and uneducated immigrants.

About one quarter of our immigrants come from Mexico. 34.5 percent of Mexican immigrants in 2010 indicated in the survey that they arrived in 2000 or later. For immigrants from countries such as India, Guatemala, Honduras, and Brazil, roughly half arrived during the last decade. In contrast, for countries like Canada and Vietnam, few are recent arrivals.

The demographics of this country are rapidly changing fueled by immigration and minority birthrates. We bring in 1.2 million permanent legal immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities as classified by the USG. We will be a majority-minority country for the first time in our history by 2043. Half of the children 18 and under will be minorities by 2019. The children of immigrants account for one-third of all children in poverty.

There are 10.4 million students from immigrant households in public schools, accounting for one in five public school students. Of these students, 78 percent speak a language other than English at home. Overall, one in four public school students now speaks a language other than English at home.


34 posted on 03/07/2014 10:00:24 PM PST by kabar
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To: ExCTCitizen

Are blacks conservative?


35 posted on 03/07/2014 10:01:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: freerepublicchat

Amnesty is not the main problem. Our legal immigration policies are far more destructive.


36 posted on 03/07/2014 10:03:01 PM PST by kabar
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To: Altura Ct.

And people still wonder why some of us hate that party!


37 posted on 03/07/2014 10:04:18 PM PST by nomad
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To: Altura Ct.

Supporting any form of amnesty will lose more votes than it will gain.


38 posted on 03/07/2014 10:44:32 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: kabar
Now, regarding your question, most people on FR if they aren't 100% in agreement, they are not conservatives. Blacks whom I met in business are, so are gays, naturists (nudists), Asians, high school students, etc.

Maybe they have disagreements on some issues, but most people I talk to are fiscal conservatives and most are social conservatives, too.

39 posted on 03/08/2014 4:27:43 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014: The Year of DEAD RINOS)
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To: Pox
I’ve spoken with “Latinos” in Southern California who are here legally and from my understanding, the bulk of those who actually believe in earning an honest living are not fans of illegals and are disgusted with them.

That's true and we have the same thing here with Miami Cubans but the problem is there are fewer of these guys every year as the huge illegal population overwhelms all else. It may be too late to hope for change.

40 posted on 03/08/2014 4:37:48 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Altura Ct.

They STILL don’t get it! UGH!!!


41 posted on 03/08/2014 5:19:42 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: kabar

I have long advocated closing the borders to unauthorized entries, illegal aliens deported, babies born to non-citizen copies do not receive US citizenship, all legal immigration cease until the actual unemployment drops below 5%.

However, there are Hispanics who have been legally in the US, some for many generations and are productive, patriotic and many are conservative. No, I am not Hispanic - an Anglo-Saxon all the way back to colonial days.


42 posted on 03/08/2014 6:06:12 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Pox

We have a boat in Ventura and the other day I was on top of it doing some work while the maintenance crew from our marina was redoing the dock next to it. Everyone left except one Mexican guy who has been here forever. He started talking to me. His parents came here legally through the Bracero program and stayed. He was ranting about the class of Mexicans coming here now and not working, living on their anchor baby freebies. He said they think he is stupid for working.


43 posted on 03/08/2014 7:45:21 AM PST by sheana
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To: elpadre
However, there are Hispanics who have been legally in the US, some for many generations and are productive, patriotic and many are conservative. No, I am not Hispanic - an Anglo-Saxon all the way back to colonial days.

I don't know why you create this phony strawman about Hispanics as though I am attacking Hispanics--a term that was created in the 1970s--when I did nothing of the sort.

I have no doubt that "Hispanics" are like most Americans when it comes to being productive and patriotic. I will take issue with the characterization that many are conservative. Most are not. Poll after poll shows that.

I suggest you read Phyillis Schlafly's recently released study, How Mass (Legal) Immigration Dooms a Conservative Republican Party

"The Pew Research Center has found that 55 percent of Hispanics have a negative view of capitalism, the highest of any group surveyed. Pew also found that 75 percent of Hispanics prefer a bigger government providing more services, as do 55 percent of Asian Americans. This compares to just 41 percent of the general public. While the general public was divided in 2012 on Obamacare, 66 percent of Hispanics support it; and three times as many Asian Americans had a favorable opinion of the program as had an unfavorable opinion of it."

For this reason, Ruy Texeira of the liberal Center for American Progress observes that Hispanic “opinions on the role of government” are “very much aligned with the Democratic Party.”

"The data also do not support the notion that immigrants are social conservatives. Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute points out that it “is not immigration policy that creates the strong bond between Hispanics and the Democratic Party, but the core Democratic principles of a more generous safety net, strong government intervention in the economy, and progressive taxation.”

44 posted on 03/08/2014 7:51:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: ExCTCitizen
Maybe they have disagreements on some issues, but most people I talk to are fiscal conservatives and most are social conservatives, too.

It is proof positive that anecdotal information is less than meaningful.

45 posted on 03/08/2014 7:53:19 AM PST by kabar
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To: Altura Ct.

This is the sort of look at me I’m stupid thread far too common around here

Exit polls are easy to find

Legal or not....little difference

The old commie fleeing Latinos were the last right wing ones

They have died off

Turning 1% of white Dem or non voting electorate to GOP voters is same as turning 8-10% of brown Dem voters to GOP

Are folks here just too dumb...or weak about skin based facts


46 posted on 03/10/2014 9:18:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (ukraine......aint nobody gonna do nothing but talk and try to score political points)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Good post. Very accurate summation.


47 posted on 03/10/2014 10:14:13 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Best quote from CPAC

Amnesty is for ever, and you gotta vote for the Republicans one more time, but just make it clear, “If you pass amnesty, that’s it. It’s over.” Then we organize the death squads for the people who wrecked America.

48 posted on 03/11/2014 2:33:51 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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