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Doomed Beyond All Hope of Redemption (From November 2012)
The American Spectator ^ | November 7, 2012 | Robert Stacy McCain

Posted on 03/08/2014 2:41:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

GAHANNA, Ohio -- Late Tuesday night, the pundits on TV began jabbering incomprehensibly along the lines of, "What does it mean?"

The American people -- or, at the very least, a sufficient plurality of them -- decided that they want another four years of clumsy policy failures and vengeful "progressivism," as Democrats nowadays describe their agenda for wrecking what remains of our constitutional republic. Even before the unmitigated political disaster of November 6, 2012, a date that will live in infamy, the prospects of salvaging the United States were not particularly hopeful. Now, however, we are permanently and irretrievably screwed.

Let's not mince words, eh? It was one thing, obviously, for the electorate to choose Barack Obama in 2008, when Bush-era "brand damage" was still a fresh irritant in the wounds of a war-weary nation. Four years ago, Obama was untested and enshrouded in the glowing mantle of Hope. No intelligent person could possibly believe that "Lightworker" crap anymore, but then again, it's been a long time since any intelligent person believed anything a Democrat said. The cretins and dimwits have become an effective governing majority, and the question for conservatives at this point is perhaps not, "What does it mean?" but rather, "Why should we bother ourselves resisting it any longer?"

Alas, as always, the duty of the Right is to manfully endure, to survive the defeat and stubbornly oppose the vaunting foe, and so this brutal shock, this electoral catastrophe, must be absorbed and digested. At some point next week or next month or next year, then, we shall recover our morale and plot some new stratagem for the future. In the immediate aftermath of Tuesday's debacle, however, it is difficult to see any glimmer of light amid the encroaching gloom....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; culture; liv; obama

1 posted on 03/08/2014 2:41:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Republican party has stood for nothing particular and mostly always make deals with Democrats by moving to the far left.
We need to abandon IMO those we now call the Washington elite; stop the donations to them and stick with honest people only like Palin and Cruz.

2 posted on 03/08/2014 2:52:16 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; blam; TigerLikesRooster; M. Espinola
Please watch this explosive video --

British Intel Advisor: "Obama Was Born in Mambasa, Kenya" -- "He is Not Eligible to Be President"

Looks like secret British intelligence files prove King Zero is a total fraud and pretender and power mad imposter

3 posted on 03/08/2014 2:52:56 AM PST by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to eliminate the things which lock us into the present two-party duopoly of power; th emost major thing we need is runoff elections for all public offices. Nobody should eve fear to vote his first choice on a first ballot and nobody should ever hold any office with less than 50% of the vote.

4 posted on 03/08/2014 3:05:05 AM PST by varmintman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Basically, I can understand somebody voting against John Iscariot-McCain... what I CAN’T understand is anybody voting for four more years of Bork Obunga and against the Romney/Ryan ticket. Anybody who voted for Obunga in 2012 needs to be sterilized and taken out of the gene pool.

5 posted on 03/08/2014 3:07:13 AM PST by varmintman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When in the begining 2008 when the rats had thier cake and could eat it too, both houses and the presidency, they held back from thier utopian dream but never let us forget they had a “mandate from the people”. The reality is they would not dare take on the entire responsibility of crashing destroying and burning of the America we know and love. So they waited until they could get the suedo rats “the rinos” on board so they could share. We have a cancer that has infected them all

6 posted on 03/08/2014 3:08:11 AM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: A CA Guy

But honest people of integrity and courage are few and far between

7 posted on 03/08/2014 3:27:19 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ping to read it all in its depressing entirety later. But I just want to say that I agree, electing Obama in the first place was one thing, re-electing him was a disgrace.

I just can never figure out where the blame goes for that.

I think on Romney, but then I think on us, meaning the American people, but then I think the media, I’m just not sure who, exactly, gets to wear the dunce hat.

I will never forget sitting in my house, maybe we still didn’t have electricity after Sandy (could it have been that long? maybe), but we were using hubby’s i-phone as a hot-spot and some little battery thing for power and waking up after falling asleep on election day and turning to Ace of Spades and reading the headline: Romney concedes yeah that happened.

For all the sh*t that happened during that time and after, that remains a low point, maybe THE low point.

What a crying shame.

Because as many problems as I and others have/had with Mr. Romney it is indisputable that he would have been a much, much better president than Barack Part Deux.

8 posted on 03/08/2014 3:51:48 AM PST by jocon307
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To: varmintman

Amen! 4 more years a slave.
“I am tired of this”

9 posted on 03/08/2014 4:13:27 AM PST by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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To: ex-Texan

If anything of what that guy says is true, Juliani, H. Clinton, MI6, the CIA, et al, were aware of Obama’s ineligibility before Nov. 2008, making dozens of people complicit in fraud. So ... probably not true ... someone would have spilled the beans in a convincing way if the intel was actually there.

10 posted on 03/08/2014 4:14:40 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2016 has to be 1980 all over again. The GOPe must be defeated. We can pontificate and complain all we want here and on other blogs and boards but now we need to put feet on the ground and work our butts off to defeat the establishment again. We failed in 1964 with Goldwater and won big with Reagan in 1980 and 1984, but it’s sad to realize we’ve only had two legitimate conservatives as our nominee the last fifty years. 2016 has to be the year of a conservative remaking of the GOP or the massive bailout out of the party we’ve all been talking about the past few years.

11 posted on 03/08/2014 4:37:28 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dated, but sentiments many shared then, & still.

I do not believe the puppet was ‘re-elected’ legitimately, that I am in a distinct minority (present company excepted), have almost zero faith the truth will ever come to light and that the pattern will repeat again (& again?) until...

12 posted on 03/08/2014 4:46:11 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of us reached our tipping point long before the jury-rigged selection of Elmer Fudd as resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I reached mine in 2006 when George W. Bush tried to push amnesty. I went to the 2009 march against DeathCare in the vain hope that politicians would listen and do right. They didn’t listen, they didn’t read, they didn’t care.

Once, I had hoped that people of different political, social and economics could/would relocate and solidify their positions. That was as futile as expecting politicians to do right.

Then I believed that Civil War would break out, resulting in partition of the country. I thought that the partition would eliminate Versailles on the Potomac as an interference, a cancer, a destroyer.

Today, I fear a French-style revolution complete with guillotines is what looms ahead for us. And is really the only hope to stop the destruction and devastation.

The politicians we keep reelecting are NOT going to change until they are forced to change. If we elect somebody else, when they arrive in Versailles on the Potomac, their brain, heart and soul are replaced with a parasite.

13 posted on 03/08/2014 4:52:30 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NTHockey; MHGinTN

-—— I fear a French-style revolution complete with guillotines is what looms ahead for us——

I had similar concerns and hit the books to study the French Revolution in detail. It turns out there were perhaps 4 revolutions within the big revolution. Always present within the Free Republic like disagreement over minor points within the whole was Paris. The people of Paris were a driving force that sort of drug the others along. They all opposed the fact there was nothing to eat and inflation was terrible.

In America, today, the detritus in the cities favor the tyrant. They have no problems with eating because plentiful food is free. And, if there is no job, then after eating the free food, there is sex to produce more food and stuff.

In America, rather than discontent about scarcity, there is discontent over redistribution. The discontent is not however concentrated like it was in Paris. There is no Church to be destroyed as a taxer of resources. There is no critical mass. There is no ongoing war of survival with neighbors.

But most important of all. But shining out as a prime mover there is no philosophical enlightenment, no Voltaire, no Rousseau . There is no leader.

Lastly there was an end in France that was actually a beginning.His name was Napoleon.

14 posted on 03/08/2014 5:12:43 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The American people -- or, at the very least, a sufficient plurality of them -- decided that they want another four years of clumsy policy

I still think this is based on a false paradigm of a "fair" election. Never saw an election 'move on' faster than this one in terms of scant media analysis and their democrat bosses in DC not gloating over the win.

15 posted on 03/08/2014 5:13:24 AM PST by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: jocon307

There is a large group of voters who are not really Dem but believe fully in the rich mantra. The media frames the entire messages of both parties. These voters believe Fox is Evil, the rich are evil and that the Dems really are out for the little guy. They do not apply logic they just believe.

16 posted on 03/08/2014 5:49:27 AM PST by pas
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To: bert

With prose style like that, you should write textbooks! Appreciate the ping ...

17 posted on 03/08/2014 6:03:13 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


that is all you need to know. women want it. women demand it. women vote for it. and the only way they can do that is vote Democrat.

its subliminal, and reasonable when you think about it. got a medical problem? see the doctor. got cancer? cut it out. pregnant with an unwanted child? same thing.

what would you do? spend the rest of your life with a child and a relationship with a man you do not care for? even if you do not marry...he is still the father and has parental rights. if you do not understand that this is a personal liberty issue that trumps everything else keep losing elections.

take Abortion off the elections.

BTW i hate abortion...for the same list of reasons that others who hate it have adequately expressed. but i am not a woman. i cannot really understand how important this is...its about freedom, about liberation...about equality...about qualilty of life....self determination...

we must understand that opposition to abortion is rooted in ethics founded on religion(s) that have been discarded by most of the women voting today.

cry about it. lament it. lose elections.

18 posted on 03/08/2014 6:15:04 AM PST by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: ex-Texan


19 posted on 03/08/2014 7:02:27 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: bert

All too true, but at some point, the whole system will collapse because it is unsustainable. When the system collapses, EVERYONE will be up in arms. And leaders are there, they are just not being heard. Except for talk radio and the very few like Sarah Palin, Rand Paul and Mike Lee.

There will no place for the traitors who think they rule us to hide.

20 posted on 03/08/2014 7:18:03 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The night of the election I turned to Mr. GG2 and said “we have now gone beyond the ballot box” I still believe that. I hope I’m wrong.

21 posted on 03/08/2014 8:04:33 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: kralcmot
Goldwater insisted affiliation with Religious Right would eventually kill the Republican Party. He was widely ridiculed for that, because at the time, a majority of American voters still felt an affinity for the ways of their church-going predecessors. But, as he so often was, he called it exactly right.

The WWII veterans who elected Reagan are long gone, and in their place we have generations of brainwashed public school products, the most recent of whom have come out of college convinced that "a woman's right to choose", gay marriage, and climate change are literally the only political issues that matter.

Social conservatives got their dream President in George W. Bush. Sad to say, he poisoned the well, and probably will be remembered in history as the man who almost single-handedly relegated his party to Whig-dom.

As you point out, there is room for a genuine small-government, pro-liberty party to make progress, especially among those brainwashed younger voters. They do have doubts about the swill they have been fed - they just aren't hearing articulate opposition to the groupthink. The Tea Party could have been, and may still become that party, despite tremendous efforts by the MSM to tar it with the Religious Right brush. They aren't going to take over the appallingly corrupt Senate by 2016, certainly, but they can make the corrupt tremble.

There is hope that a political figure with Reagan's gift for communication might soon emerge at the head of an entirely new political movement, whether that individual calls him or herself a Republican or not (I favor not - the brand is too badly damaged.) Obama has egotistically pushed way too far, and the backlash is going to be horrendous for progressive types.

22 posted on 03/08/2014 9:16:51 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Look how unracist I am for voting for a white-black who will give me free stuff” pretty much sums up how Obama became president.

23 posted on 03/08/2014 10:54:57 AM PST by Organic Panic
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