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S.F. library proposes new code of conduct with penalties
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | March 8, 2014 | by Heather Knight

Posted on 03/09/2014 7:38:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Just when you think there couldn't possibly be another battle over the behavior of homeless people in San Francisco, along comes a new brouhaha among the stacks at the city's Main Library.

The Civic Center building has long been a bastion for transients, some of whom have forgone good old-fashioned reading for bathing in the bathroom sinks, dealing drugs and exposing themselves. Recent notable incidents include a man urinating on books and another breaking a computer with a hammer.

But homeless advocates aren't buying it. After all, who else is likely to bring carts into the building, sleep on the furniture or emit a "strong, pervasive odor" - all of which would be grounds for suspension?

Jennifer Friedenbach, director of the Coalition on Homelessness, said the odor rule is just plain mean.

"You'd have to ask the library how that would work," she said. "Is there a senior sniffer, a supervisory sniffer, and are they the ultimate judge of what is a bad body odor? I know what I smell like when I don't put deodorant on, and it's not pretty."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 03/09/2014 7:38:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pelosi is from San Fran. She can be the odor sniffer.


2 posted on 03/09/2014 7:41:34 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

With all the old Hippies in San Fran - seriously - who CAN tell who smells the most? LOL!

I work in ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan.’ The patchouli and matted, dread-locked hair is overwhelming in the summer months.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 7:42:57 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The homeless live in our downtown library. They sleep in the chairs, urinate among the books and have committed numerous rapes and assaults. A cop armed with the full bat-belt patrols every bit of the library moving pretty fast. I watched him one day and he covered the entire building repeatedly at a good clip.

I won’t go there, or to any downtown library, as, here they are essentially homeless shelters.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 7:44:07 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"We don't want to call anybody out," he said.

Goodness no, we can't hurt the feelings of someone who is urinating on books.

5 posted on 03/09/2014 7:44:25 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Suspended persons would get a letter notifying them of the ban and telling them they could request a hearing to try to get it overturned.

This is real faculty lounge thinking. Send letters to HOMELESS People. Ye Gads SFO. Wake up, get off the drugs and come back to earth.

6 posted on 03/09/2014 7:44:58 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

I think that’s the POINT, Don. They don’t WANT the homeless people to overturn their bans.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 7:48:07 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Izzy Dunne

A local friend suggests that it will be just fine for the SF residents to piss on one particular book if they insist on continuing to relieve themselves on the inventory of their fancy expensive rebuilt library. But my friend has a lot of “Audacity” to even think such a thing.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 7:48:49 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All these “progressives” who think destroying boundaries of behavior and social mores that have progressed over centuries, are starting to notice that there was a reason for these rules, and far from progressing, their “society change” and “social justice” agenda are regressing their society by sometimes hundreds of years.

I don’t have any pity for where they find themselves in. The rest of the country needs more examples of the result of “progressivism” now that Detroit is dead and buried.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 7:49:22 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Suspended persons would get a letter notifying them...”

Lol. Yeah? Are they going to personally hand the letter to the homeless person, or have the mailman drop it off at the local park or under the nearest overpass?


10 posted on 03/09/2014 7:53:27 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: winner3000

SF is learning that there are bad consequences to pushing liberal attitudes too far. SF has been a leader in liberalism. Let them enjoy where liberalism goes.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 8:07:00 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I know what I smell like when I don't put deodorant on, and it's not pretty."

You really didn't have to tell us that jennifer, we could have guessed from a distance.

12 posted on 03/09/2014 8:12:52 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Whew. For a minute there I thought they were going to ban having sex with the sexy librarian in the book aisles after closing hours. Am I relieved. Now I can go on....

.....fantasizing about such a scenario.


13 posted on 03/09/2014 8:26:35 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bums LLC


14 posted on 03/09/2014 8:27:48 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

One of our local libraries has a crazy couple who peed in the chairs. People who sat in them later found them a bit damp. The library took quite a while to determined what to do about it.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 8:29:48 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Only in left-wing bastions would this kind of nonsense even be an issue. Anywhere common sense prevails, they’d simply toss these bums out on the street, and if they came back, they’d get a thrashing to boot.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 8:47:29 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: lowbridge
Put that thing back in unless you know how to use it...


17 posted on 03/09/2014 8:53:34 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

San Francisco with a code of conduct LOL never happen.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 9:09:52 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wonder what would happen if they went beyond peeing and actually burned some books? Then you’d have the pure virtue of the homeless versus the pure evil of the Nazis. How would the liberal mind compute such a paradox?

They’d probably have to wheel out that supercomputer that lives in the basement of the Humanities building at UC Berkeley. The one with the algorithms that can sort through this sort of thing. It was designed to decide close cases involving the liberal hierarchy of victims. E.g. who is the superior victim — the female illegal immigrant or the gay black male? Such questions are intractibly complex but social justice demands that they be answered.

The question of how to feel about bums burning books lies a little outside of the computer’s normal scope but with a few tweaks to the code it should be able to crank out a satisfying answer.


19 posted on 03/09/2014 9:10:16 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jennifer Friedenbach, director of the Coalition on Homelessness, said the odor rule is just plain mean.

The library can direct them to Jennifer's home to freshen up, before, they come in.

20 posted on 03/09/2014 9:14:09 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The library has hired seven extra security members”

“Extra”? How many security people do they normally have at a library?
Remember when the worst thing at the library was when somebody talked too loud?
Somebody is paying those salaries.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 9:26:22 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Drango
Pelosi is from San Fran. She can be the odor sniffer.

The Pelosi-OdorMeter calibration chart...

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22 posted on 03/09/2014 9:30:07 AM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: spokeshave

so many lifts, if she sneezes she’ll have an orgasm. Sorry, in advance.


23 posted on 03/09/2014 9:31:08 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Yardstick

Well played!


24 posted on 03/09/2014 9:46:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lol, thanks — your post inspired me...


25 posted on 03/09/2014 9:56:04 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: spokeshave

That, is a good one.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 10:22:22 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Drango

Pelosi is from San Fran. She can be the odor sniffer.

&&&
Better yet, since she is so compassionate she can house the bums...I mean, the homeless at her mansion. She would be solving several problems at once.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 10:27:48 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Gen.Blather
I won’t go there, or to any downtown library, as, here they are essentially homeless shelters.

I truly enjoy public libraries and don't mind that my taxes help pay for them. I remember living in downtown Denver when they opened up their new multi-million dollar public library. It was a beautiful facility with enormous recources. Everything you could ask for from a public library.

And then the bums arrived...

Same thing then. Bathing in the sinks, drunkeness, psychotic behavior, masturbating to pornography, etc... And the stench.

As far as I saw it, millions down the drain.

28 posted on 03/09/2014 10:36:46 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If people like this woman from the Coalition on Homelessness really cared about the homeless, they would use the money they seem to be so good at raising on real housing for the homeless.

Most of these people need to be put into institutions where their needs would be taken care of. They are not capable of making daily living decisions for themselves.

IMO, it is cruel to allow them to continue to live such horrible lives. But the “advocates” care less about the well being of their target group than they do about their own self-righteous spouting off and attention-getting.


29 posted on 03/09/2014 10:47:09 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: nuconvert

““Suspended persons would get a letter notifying them...”

Lol. Yeah? Are they going to personally hand the letter to the homeless person, or have the mailman drop it off at the local park or under the nearest overpass?”

If they want to send a REALLY sternly worded letter, ask for help from the Administration. That’ll show em.


30 posted on 03/09/2014 10:47:38 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: spokeshave

LOL!


31 posted on 03/09/2014 10:49:17 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: IronJack

Well, HOW are they going to better themselves without being able to go to the library to read some educational books or some educational courses on the Int...

I’m sorry, I could not get that entirely down before almost busting a kidney from laughing so hard.


32 posted on 03/09/2014 10:50:08 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
About time. I use the library and at times the place becomes disgusting, esp. the men's restrooms.
33 posted on 03/09/2014 12:10:27 PM PDT by quadrant (1o)
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To: The Antiyuppie
Well, HOW are they going to better themselves without being able to go to the library to read some educational books

I debated that with myself, then I realized that they were probably not at the library to read Proust or catch up on postmodern metaphysics. At least not ALL of them ...

34 posted on 03/09/2014 1:53:13 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Gen.Blather; All

Funny thing .... These aggressive so-called “homeless advocates” would not invite these same “not-smelly and hygienic” homeless into THEIR homes for seven weeks for free, would they?


35 posted on 03/09/2014 1:57:56 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jennifer Friedenbach, director of the Coalition on Homelessness, said the odor rule is just plain mean. "You'd have to ask the library how that would work," she said. "Is there a senior sniffer, a supervisory sniffer, and are they the ultimate judge of what is a bad body odor? I know what I smell like when I don't put deodorant on, and it's not pretty."

photo of Jennifer Friedenbach,

36 posted on 03/09/2014 2:07:31 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

As is often stated: libs are insane.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 3:45:37 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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